Best way to install Win11 on this machine

gunrunnerjohn · 2025-03-16T14:22:13-0400

I have an HP ENVY H8-1540T desktop. I'm trying to see what is the easiest path to install Windows 11 on this machine. I obviously want to be able to continue to receive updates for security reasons, but the machine is more than capable of doing the tasks I use it for.

It appears that I have two sticking points that I can't get around. I can enable Secure Boot in the BIOS, so that would fix one issue, but I can't fix the other two.

TPM 2.0
CPU Type

I was wondering if the software TPU 2.0 emulations would be good enough to make Windows happy?

Next, I have to address is the processor. While it's not the fastest on the planet, it's more than sufficient for standard desktop tasks. Obviously, I doubt I can fix that easily.

I see many mentions of RUFUS to bypass the requirements, however I also see folks anguishing about receiving security updates after they install using this method. I just need to know if that's realistic or that would be my path forward.

Josey Wales · 2025-03-16T14:29:01-0400

24H2ProV43

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You might want to try the above.

XxXxX · 2025-03-16T15:04:09-0400

your CPU supports SSE4.2 so you could use Rufus to burn the Windows 11 ISO as a bootable USB.
with that you can install Windows 11 directly or use the setup.exe file within the Rufus USB to upgrade.
it would also help if you did enable secure boot in the BIOS.

but it would be a better idea to have a clean install.
please ensure you back up your data.

you can get Rufus 4.6 from this link but it is also available from the MS store.

Rufus - Create bootable USB drives the easy way

Rufus: Create bootable USB drives the easy way

rufus.ie

when burning the bootable USB a menu will appear before starting the burn. please make sure you tick all the boxes and fill in your account user name.

best of luck, Steve ..

Bree · 2025-03-16T15:23:35-0400

gunrunnerjohn said:
I see many mentions of RUFUS to bypass the requirements, however I also see folks anguishing about receiving security updates after they install using this method. I just need to know if that's realistic or that would be my path forward.

System Two in My Computers below has a 1st gen i5, only TPM 1.2, and is a Legacy bios machine (so no secure boot). It has been running Windows 11 since the first release in October 2021 and is now on 24H2.

However you bypass the hardware checks and install Win11, you will still get all the cumulative updates and security updates that any supported device would get. The only thing that an unsupported device won't see in Windows Update is the offer of any Feature Update to the next version. For that you need to perform a manual upgrade with an ISO, using a workaround again, as I have had to do.

gunrunnerjohn · 2025-03-16T15:30:20-0400

Josey Wales said:
24H2ProV43

24H2ProV43

windowsxlite.com

You might want to try the above.

My two key concerns are compatibility with all the existing Windows applications and the availability of future Windows security updates. I don't see those mentioned in their material. I'd like to find some

Bree said:
System Two in My Computers below has a 1st gen i5, only TPM 1.2, and is a Legacy bios machine (so no secure boot). It has been running Windows 11 since the first release in October 2021 and is now on 24H2.

However you bypass the hardware checks and install Win11, you will still get all the cumulative updates and security updates that any supported device would get. The only thing that an unsupported device won't see in Windows Update is the offer of any Feature Update to the next version. For that you need to perform a manual upgrade with an ISO, using a workaround again, as I have had to do.

Please explain the "workaround" for the feature update. Do you have to do a complete install over the existing system, something like the old repair update?

FreeBooter · 2025-03-16T15:47:36-0400

This video provides a comprehensive tutorial on how to install Windows 11 24H2 on hardware that does not meet the official system requirements.

Josey Wales · 2025-03-16T16:10:36-0400

The future use of Windows 11 on unsupported hardware could change at any time. One thing with MS is they are not consistent.

Hasefroch · 2025-03-16T16:14:10-0400

You can try Flyby11 Releases · builtbybel/Flyby11
It's not dangerous and it's the easiest method to upgrade an unsupported machine to Windows 11

PCUser · 2025-03-16T16:31:13-0400

gunrunnerjohn said:
I have an HP ENVY H8-1540T desktop. I'm trying to see what is the easiest path to install Windows 11 on this machine. I obviously want to be able to continue to receive updates for security reasons, but the machine is more than capable of doing the tasks I use it for.

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It appears that I have two sticking points that I can't get around. I can enable Secure Boot in the BIOS, so that would fix one issue, but I can't fix the other two.

TPM 2.0
CPU Type

View attachment 128404

I was wondering if the software TPU 2.0 emulations would be good enough to make Windows happy?

Next, I have to address is the processor. While it's not the fastest on the planet, it's more than sufficient for standard desktop tasks. Obviously, I doubt I can fix that easily.

I see many mentions of RUFUS to bypass the requirements, however I also see folks anguishing about receiving security updates after they install using this method. I just need to know if that's realistic or that would be my path forward.

@gunrunnerjohn Simple, THIS is the EASIEST, and SIMPLEST, TROUBLE-FREE method to install Windows 11 on unsupported hardware . . . PERIOD.

It works EVERY TIME. How do I know? I've done it many times. Just follow the video.
Good luck!

Install Windows 11 24H2 on Unsupported Hardware

www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKMB7WSEbMM&list=PLNQZzkZidAGC2fccgVLRz6Hpg79S6IpcH&index=20&t=179s

Bree · 2025-03-16T16:33:03-0400

gunrunnerjohn said:
Please explain the "workaround" for the feature update. Do you have to do a complete install over the existing system, something like the old repair update?

You start an in-place upgrade by mounting an ISO or using an install USB and running the Setup.exe you'll find there from within your existing Windows. An in-place upgrade installs a new version of Windows, keeping all your apps, files, and most of your settings (exactly the same as Windows Update would do on a supported device).

For an unsupported device there are several workarounds. You could prepare an install USB using Rufus so that it will bypass the checks (Option One in this tutorial). I generally use Option Three (Bypass Windows 11 System Requirements for 24H2 In-place Upgrade using Command) which sets a few registry settings before you run Setup from an unmodified ISO.

Bypass Windows 11 System Requirements on Unsupported PC

This tutorial will show you how to bypass the Windows 11 CPU, RAM, Secure Boot, and TPM 2.0 system requirements allowing you to clean install or upgrade to Windows 11 on a unsupported PC that doesn't meet these requirements. Installing Windows 11 on a device that does not meet Windows 11...

www.elevenforum.com

PCUser · 2025-03-16T17:00:36-0400

@gunrunnerjohn If you're doing an upgrade to Windows 11, here you go. Easier yet.
No USB required.

Upgrade to Windows 11 24H2 from Windows 10 on Unsupported Hardware

www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWV1G3IDRMg&list=PLNQZzkZidAGC2fccgVLRz6Hpg79S6IpcH&index=18

gunrunnerjohn · 2025-03-16T17:22:06-0400

Is there anywhere that this is actually written down. I find trying to do this from a video is frustrating as you don't have anything to look at during the process. At least for me, a video is a poor way to deliver step-by-step instructions.

While I have a running Win10 system on this machine, I'm thinking of a clean install. My reasoning is that after a few days of being booted, the machine gets very slow to boot, and sometimes simply won't recover from sleep. A repair install some time back didn't seem to make any difference, so I'm thinking a fresh install is the way to go.

glasskuter · 2025-03-16T18:15:38-0400

gunrunnerjohn said:
I'm thinking of a clean install

If you have issues in 10, that's smart. I suggest making a system image first, but make sure you use imaging software that will allow you to mount your image so you can copy personal files from the image. Or at the very least backup your personal files first.

gunrunnerjohn · 2025-03-16T18:29:35-0400

glasskuter said:
If you have issues in 10, that's smart. I suggest making a system image first, but make sure you use imaging software that will allow you to mount your image so you can copy personal files from the image. Or at the very least backup your personal files first.

I have multiple levels of backup, including all my personal files. All my data is on a separate logical drive for easy backup, and I also have automated backup of select configuration files that reside on the Windows drive.

My real issue is to get this machine running Windows 11. I might be better off to treat it to a new motherboard and processor, that would solve all my problems.

gunrunnerjohn · 2025-03-16T18:30:55-0400

Josey Wales said:
The future use of Windows 11 on unsupported hardware could change at any time. One thing with MS is they are not consistent.

I think that exactly states my real concern! I may be better in biting the bullet for a cheap MB/CPU upgrade that gives me true Win11 compatibility.

PCUser · 2025-03-16T18:42:37-0400

gunrunnerjohn said:
Is there anywhere that this is actually written down. I find trying to do this from a video is frustrating as you don't have anything to look at during the process. At least for me, a video is a poor way to deliver step-by-step instructions.

While I have a running Win10 system on this machine, I'm thinking of a clean install. My reasoning is that after a few days of being booted, the machine gets very slow to boot, and sometimes simply won't recover from sleep. A repair install some time back didn't seem to make any difference, so I'm thinking a fresh install is the way to go.

@gunrunnerjohn Yes, jensd_be also has a website. Here you go.

Upgrade to or install Windows 11 24H2 on unsupported hardware | Jensd's I/O buffer

antspants · 2025-03-16T18:47:12-0400

XxXxX said:
your CPU supports SSE4.2 so you could use Rufus to burn the Windows 11 ISO as a bootable USB.
with that you can install Windows 11 directly or use the setup.exe file within the Rufus USB to upgrade.
it would also help if you did enable secure boot in the BIOS.

but it would be a better idea to have a clean install.
please ensure you back up your data.

you can get Rufus 4.6 from this link but it is also available from the MS store.

Rufus - Create bootable USB drives the easy way

Rufus: Create bootable USB drives the easy way

rufus.ie

when burning the bootable USB a menu will appear before starting the burn. please make sure you tick all the boxes and fill in your account user name.

best of luck, Steve ..

I’m with Steve. My opinion is that you save a lot of mucking around by creating the install media using RUFUS.

Like I said, just my opinion.

x509 · 2025-03-16T19:42:51-0400

gunrunnerjohn said:
find trying to do this from a video is frustrating as you don't have anything to look at during the process. At least for me, a video is a poor way to deliver step-by-step instructions.

Totally agree. I wish people would take the trouble to write out instructions instead of doing a video,

x509 · 2025-03-16T19:48:50-0400

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If I'm off the rails today, come back tomorrow. I'll make more sense once my memory pill kicks in....if I remember to take it.

Maybe you need one of these instead of a memory pill.

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antspants · 2025-03-16T20:11:04-0400

gunrunnerjohn said:
I find trying to do this from a video is frustrating as you don't have anything to look at during the process. At least for me, a video is a poor way to deliver step-by-step instructions.

x509 said:
Totally agree. I wish people would take the trouble to write out instructions instead of doing a video,

Yes. I find videos helpful sometimes, but only when accompanied with text equivalent.

A video does nothing in Google to attract new people, but text fixes do. Rarely (if ever) have I seen a Google result from here that focus on a video fix. If one can make a video one can create a copy paste text interpretation. Perhaps posting them together would be more helpful. Actually I’ll rephrase that, it would be more helpful. The monetized issue bugs me also. Give freely.

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