Don't install with Microsoft account at set up!


Hazel123

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Sorry if I'm saying anything already known, but it's been a while since I clean installed Windows 11 and the first time on 23H2. Having just installed on two laptops, the way it gets set up now is really not friendly. The main issue, after signing in with a microsoft account - is that you don't get to the desktop. It makes you wait (for a long time) while updates are being done - and it's not just the waiting - you also can't see which updates are being done.

With the first laptop I found it was on 24H2 when I finally got to the desktop (I don't know if was already on 24H2 or not as had only just purchased it and setting up for the first time - used laptop) but it did take an extremely long time doing updates. There were touchpad issues so I clean installed 23H2 and the touchpad was fine then,

The second one was an older laptop. Explained in another thread how I couldn't connect to wifi initially so when I finally got a connection, I signed in with a microsoft account again in (somehow thinking I wouldn't risk losing that connection being gone once on the desktop!) and had exactly the same thing. Not getting to the desktop due to very very long waits while windows installed updates. On this occasion I just cancelled everything and started again and set up with a local account instead.

I have never been that bothered about whether I signed in with a local or Microsoft account, but now I am! If you sign in with a local account, then you go straight to the desktop and you can see what updates are being done - which I think is sometimes part of the process of knowing what's on a laptop and what's going on. Also taking note of various bits of firmware and drivers installed.

Which means doing the oobe/bypass nro of course, and thanks to Bree, I now know you have to click on the command window before you can type on it.

So from now on I will always set up with a local account - as long as it remains possible. And then sign in with a microsoft account later - if wanted.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 2TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
Hello Hazel, :alien:

Correct. You're still able to set up a local account while doing a clean install of Windows 11. The steps in the tutorial below include more on how to do it if needed.

 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom self build
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING (11GB GDDR5X)
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung Odyssey G75 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    4TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
    Case
    Thermaltake Core P3 wall mounted
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H115i
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless K800
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1 Gbps Download and 35 Mbps Upload
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender and Malwarebytes Premium
    Other Info
    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Surface Laptop 7 Copilot+ PC
    CPU
    Snapdragon X Elite (12 core) 3.42 GHz
    Memory
    16 GB LPDDR5x-7467 MHz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15" HDR
    Screen Resolution
    2496 x 1664
    Hard Drives
    1 TB SSD
    Internet Speed
    Wi-Fi 7 and Bluetooth 5.4
    Browser
    Chrome and Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
I haven't done a clean install recently.

When doing an upgrade, there's a checkbox as to whether to check for updates during the install.

If doing a clean install to a Microsoft account, does that still apply? If so, does that get you to a Windows desktop more quickly?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 26100.3025
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    homebuilt
    CPU
    Amd Threadripper 7970X
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte TRX50 Aero D
    Memory
    128GB (4 X 32) G.Skill DDR5 6400 (RDIMM)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte RTX 4090 OC
    Sound Card
    none (USB to speakers), Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Philips 27E1N8900 OLED
    Screen Resolution
    3840 X 2160 @ 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Crucial T700 2TB M.2 NVME SSD
    WD 4TB Blue SATA SSD
    Seagate 18TB IronWolf Pro
    PSU
    BeQuiet! Straight Power 12 1500W
    Case
    Lian Li 011 Dynamic Evo XL
    Cooling
    SilverStone Technology XE360-TR5, with 3 Phanteks T30 fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech K120 (wired)
    Mouse
    Logitech M500s (wired)
    Internet Speed
    2000/300 Mbps (down/up)
  • Operating System
    windows 11 26100.3025
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    homebuilt
    CPU
    Intel I9-13900K
    Motherboard
    Asus RoG Strix Z690-E
    Memory
    64GB G.Skill DDR5-6000
    Graphics card(s)
    Gigabyte RTX 3090 ti
    Sound Card
    built in Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus PA329C
    Screen Resolution
    3840 X 2160 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WDC SN850 1TB
    8TB Seagate Ironwolf
    4TB Seagate Ironwolf
    PSU
    eVGA SuperNOVA 1300 GT
    Case
    Lian Li 011 Dynamic Evo
    Cooling
    Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX Liquid CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech M500s (wired)
    Keyboard
    Logitech K120 (wired)
Doing a clean install, I didn't see any checkbox - it just starts doing updates and tells you to wait. Once you sign in with a microsoft account the updates start. You can't see which updates are being done and it takes a very long time. At least if you went straight to desktop you could be doing something while updates were downloading! I don't like it at all! Signing in with a local account, the install is all very quick and you then go straight to the desktop.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 2TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
I just did a clean install..., after choosing region and keyboard, etc..., then came network, there was a button 'I don't have internet', I chose that and it commenced to setting up the Desktop...

n.webp
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
Ah you bypassed logging in with a microsoft account with oob\bypass nro :-) If you'd signed in with a microsoft account you'd have been stuck waiting while it did invisible updates!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 2TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
Ah you bypassed logging in with a microsoft account with oob\bypass nro :-) If you'd signed in with a microsoft account you'd have been stuck waiting while it did invisible updates!
I suppose I did! It's been ages since I did an install of any sort, but, this seemed to work! (y)

I went the Rufus method and completely wiped Disk 0...

cl.webp
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
Does Rufus now bypass asking for a microsoft account as well now then? ie does it offer you the I don't have internet option?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 2TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
Does Rufus now bypass asking for a microsoft account as well now then? ie does it offer you the I don't have internet option?
Apparently...

9291.webp

I just went with Option Two here...

 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
I've used Rufus before on older laptops - didn't occur to me to use it on laptops compatible with Windows 11 already :-)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 2TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
I've used Rufus before on older laptops - didn't occur to me to use it on laptops compatible with Windows 11 already :-)
I actually wasn't expecting it to work as the CPU was not compatible! Kudos to @Brink and the Rufus Devs! (y)
My sister said: "If you brick the Laptop, don't worry about it!" Otherwise I wouldn't have tried it!!! :zany:
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
Definitely works - I used it about three years ago :-) It's on a thread here somewhere - first thing I wanted to do when Windows 11 came out was put it on an Eee PC 🤣 . Worked a treat. Doesn't work on 23H2 though.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 2TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
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