Explorer window without close/iconify/min gadgets and black title border?


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Sometimes randomly, when an explorer window gets opened from another program, e.g. from Everything (Voidtools) or Microsoft Edge browser downloads, it looks like this with a strange black border title and grey area, and without usual close/iconify/minimize gadgets:

Clicking where the window gadgets should be does nothing, and to restore normal behaviour and (white-transparent) colors I have to click out of this window. At this point the window will look as usual populated also by its normal gadgets.
It never happens when I open Explorer from Windows tool bar, only from within another program that needs to open a directory.

I use Launch folder windows in a separate process: Off.

Already tried to disable the few shellex installed, but didn't change this random event. Nvidia driver bug or what?
 
Windows Build/Version
22H2, 22612.1413
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I've seen this today also. Just click the cross on the tab at the left.
 

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    Edition Windows 10 Home
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Looks to me like you have explorer properties as opening in full screen. When explorer is accessed from another app, it's cutting off the right side of the window. You can solve it by Right clicking on explorer icon on taskbar. In the menu, right click again on 'file explorer' within the list. Select properties, under 'run' select normal window.

Close and reopen file explorer. Drag its edges to ALMOST fill your screen(but NOT all the way to edge) Even after you close it, it will remember that size, no matter if you open it or an app does.

I do not run any app as full screen. Sizing them myself usually prevents weird stuff from happening.
 

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@ glasskutter

I think this is a feature, not a bug. I see the black title bar when Everything opens an explorer window. Maybe it's related to non-MS programs?
 
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    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2894
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    Acer Swift SF114-34
    CPU
    Pentium Silver N6000 1.10GHz
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD
    Cooling
    fanless
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere
    Other Info
    System 3

    ASUS T100TA Transformer
    Processor Intel Atom Z3740 @ 1.33GHz
    Installed RAM 2.00 GB (1.89 GB usable)
    System type 32-bit operating system, x64-based processor

    Edition Windows 10 Home
    Version 22H2 build 19045.3570
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
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    Webroot
Looks to me like you have explorer properties as opening in full screen. When explorer is accessed from another app, it's cutting off the right side of the window. You can solve it by Right clicking on explorer icon on taskbar. In the menu, right click again on 'file explorer' within the list. Select properties, under 'run' select normal window.

Close and reopen file explorer. Drag its edges to ALMOST fill your screen(but NOT all the way to edge) Even after you close it, it will remember that size, no matter if you open it or an app does.

I do not run any app as full screen. Sizing them myself usually prevents weird stuff from happening.
Sorry I don't understand what you mean. I usually never enlarge File Explorer windows to fullscreen... Don't understand what you mean with "Select properties, under 'run' select normal window"...?

This happens with other programs too opening (non-fullscreen) explorer windows...

Here is a short video showing the strange RANDOM issue (FYI: I use CTRL+J sometimes to open the download history). When this happens I can just click away (hence the window will loose its focus status) and goes back to normal:


Looks like a gfx acceleration bug to me (required for round corners look in Win11)...
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG SCAR 18
    CPU
    Intel i9-13980HX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5 5600MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVidia GTX 4090 Laptop 256bit 16GB 175W
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC285 + Dolby Atmos
    Monitor(s) Displays
    G-Sync NE180QDM-NZ2 18" 16:10, FreeSync Premium XiaoMi Mi 34" 21:9
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1600@240Hz (internal), 3440x1440@144Hz (external)
    Hard Drives
    NVMe Lexar NM790 1TB 6GB/s, NVMe Lexar NM790 4TB 6GB/s
    PSU
    330W (laptop PSU)
    Mouse
    ROG Strix Carry Wireless-BT mouse
    Other Info
    4K UHD USB Archgon Star Blu-Ray 4K UHD,
    8BitDo Arcade Stick,
    Vader 4 Pro controller
Just FYI I was able to reproduce the issue even on a VBox virtual machine with Windows 11 fresh install from official ISO. No NVidia or AMD drivers of course but GuestAddons VBox video driver acceleration.
Definitely a Microsoft bug.
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EDIT: reproducible even with VBox GuestAddons video driver acceleration disabled.
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG SCAR 18
    CPU
    Intel i9-13980HX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5 5600MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVidia GTX 4090 Laptop 256bit 16GB 175W
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC285 + Dolby Atmos
    Monitor(s) Displays
    G-Sync NE180QDM-NZ2 18" 16:10, FreeSync Premium XiaoMi Mi 34" 21:9
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1600@240Hz (internal), 3440x1440@144Hz (external)
    Hard Drives
    NVMe Lexar NM790 1TB 6GB/s, NVMe Lexar NM790 4TB 6GB/s
    PSU
    330W (laptop PSU)
    Mouse
    ROG Strix Carry Wireless-BT mouse
    Other Info
    4K UHD USB Archgon Star Blu-Ray 4K UHD,
    8BitDo Arcade Stick,
    Vader 4 Pro controller
I just set up a new machine and it came with 22H2 build 22621 and I get this somewhat frequently. This thread is the only place I could find a definite match for my issue.

Has there been any more developments, work-arounds, or definitive causes identified?

Long-time Windows user and first-timer with Win 11. It seems to have more than the typical number of bugs for a two-year-old.
 

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    Windows 11
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    PC/Desktop
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    Dell XPS 8950
    CPU
    i7-12700
    Memory
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    Acer EB321HQU C
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
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