I Still Prefer Windows 10

cereberus said:

There have been some handy changes in W11 - better navigation of settings, file explorer tabs, notepad tabs, clock seconds, ability to open other compressed formats etc. Any one on its own is not really enough to move perhaps from W10, but when you add them all up, it is clear that W11 is slicker. It is a bit like a Mark II version of a car versus a Mark I version. The car is basically the same, but you get a load of nice new refinements.

In the end, you can be boring and stagnate, or you can embrace change.

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On this site, one learns stuff I was not aware of! See bolded items above.

Edwin said:

I'm not ready yet!

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Neither am I, but I'm running 2 Win11 Insider boxes (Beta and Release Preview) so I'll know when/if there are signs it might be worth the move from 10. Something tells me 12 may be here before that times comes.

There is nothing to worry about.
Just make an image backup of 10.
Upgrade to 11. Give it a month.
If it didn't sink in, revert back to 10 via image backup.

I love Windows 11. But Microsoft shot itself at the feet, taking off working features and the TPM that hackers can skip.

Ghot said:

Change the scroll bar size, and Win 11 will make you happier... it did for me.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\WindowMetrics

Scrollheight -330
Scrollwidth -330

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I use -15 x 23 = -345.

I like so much Windows 11 that in my everyday job that I'm in the Beta Channel, almost a year and two months ago.

The sad thing is we won't see LTSC Version for some time I think but I have the WIN10 LTSC Version so.... I'm good. I have the command for the "Install store" so yeah

I guess you guys know better than me why Windows 11 is better than Windows 10.
I still can't see it.

Hmm... Well 11 on my 775 build works like a charm but 11 is just a somewhat skinned of 10 but with a little added nonsense

WAI said:

Hmm... Well 11 on my 775 build works like a charm but 11 is just a somewhat skinned of 10 but with a little added nonsense

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Added nonsense seems to always work well.

Stigg said:

I've always been an early adopter of new Windows operating systems and very adaptive to change, but Windows 11 offers me nothing.
Windows 11 is the first Microsoft operating system that takes more than it gives.

That's why all my computers except one are staying with Windows 10 for now.

What do you think?

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I've been running Windows 11 on at least one machine for more than two years now. None of my machines were supported devices when the first official Insider build 22000.51 was released. My (then) 'main machine' was a laptop from 2011, it was long in the tooth already and about time I replaced it anyway. So I got my System One below, migrated the Win10 OS and installed apps to it, then upgraded to the Win11 Insider build. When 11 was officially released in Oct. 2021 I repeated the Win10 migration and let Windows Update offer it the Win11 upgrade.

I have since added two more supported devices to my collection, one to run all my Hyper-V VMs, and another as a 2-in-1 convertible to take away with me on holidays and vacation.

On balance I have a preference for Windows 11, but only by a little bit. Although I could run 11 on all my other unsupported machines I prefer to keep then on Windows 10 while it is still supported.

There are some nice little additions to Windows 11 that I find improves my work-flow. In particular I find myself frequently using 'Copy as path' and wishing I could do the same in Win10.

If I just ignore the simple changes and/or irritations, I prefer Windows 11. It may be the slight increase in speed sig his Dell 3510 laptop, over my 3552 laptop, but this one is lightening fast compared to the Win-10 machine. Even with a small different in hardware speed I think Win-11 is much better.

Bree said:

... I find myself frequently using 'Copy as path' and wishing I could do the same in Win10.

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Shift+right click.

Edwin said:

Shift+right click.

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So it does, thanks. Hidden away a bit though, no wonder I never found it

Some people prefer cupcakes better. I, for one, care less for them.

A general critique of Apple vs Microsoft vs Windows versions based loosely on the User Experience

The Macintosh introduced us to an interface that was sensible, logical, and complimentary. It complimented its users by presenting them with a modus operandi that could be logically followed and infinitely extended.

I found Win7 much more worthwhile than the state of the Macintosh at the time because when Apple failed to extend the concept of Menus/sub-menus and replaced it with the radically different direction of switching to the Ribbon, an arguably prettier interface (but little more), but one that certainly could not be extended infinitely or even logically understood. And it certainly did not compliment us. I could--by telephone--unerringly direct another person to the correct place on a drop-down menu/sub menu/sub-sub menu/etc.

I found Win10 less worthwhile than what came before it because by the time Windows got to version 10, Microsoft once again followed Apple, introducing the Ribbon for, it is my opinion, little more than surface/pretty-picture reasons... Windows could instead have experimented with a variety of the "menu" concept by utilizing mouse-pointer-centric menus the way Nano-CAD did.

However, other than the change in GUI, Windows 10 did not cease to appreciate or compliment its users. As complexity increased, Win10 found find ways to expose the user to the complexity the computer was able to offer.

I found Win10 to be much more worthwhile than Win11 because Win11 seems to regard its user base so inept and inadequate that it, as a default condition, cuts down on what the user immediately sees (e.g., the right click context menu) and appropriate new technology it is providing no, gifting the user (OneDrive). Microsoft seems to be purposely appropriating the user experience and user generated content to a cloud-based, Microsoft-controlled, profit based experience. This is not the Oracle "everyone uses the cloud-based timeshare software product (the timeshare approach IBM tried in 1968) approach. It's about a very large cloud-based environment under Microsoft control and feeds off much more than just an Operating System and state-of-the-necessary (NOT state-of-the-art) Software..

TVeblen said:

Some people prefer cupcakes better. I, for one, care less for them.

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Give me a nice, moist, slice of carrot cake with real cream cheese frosting.

I love Windows 10, I will miss it. But there is no denying that system 1 in my specs (2014) and my old Dell laptop (2017) love Windows 11 and I can very noticeably see the difference, especially with the Dell.
Even with the upgrade, as I haven’t had time to do a fresh install on my PC, it performs much better for me.

I switched to Win11 because two of my four computers on Win10 refused to see one another on my network, despite hours of playing about with everything I could think of. On installing Win11 on these two computers they immediately saw and connected to the other computers. At last!

Bob Frost

bobfrost said:

I switched to Win11 because two of my four computers on Win10 refused to see one another on my network, despite hours of playing about with everything I could think of. On installing Win11 on these two computers they immediately saw and connected to the other computers. At last!

Bob Frost

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Welcome to the forum, Bob.
Well that’s promising. I haven’t gotten that far yet. Looking forward to it. Will make life a lot easier.