I Still Prefer Windows 10

Edwin · Aug 13, 2023

Bree said:
Maybe in 2025, then....

Yeah, maybe..., I'd have to establish a massive backup plan first, or I'd be screwed if something went wrong!

antspants · Aug 13, 2023

Edwin said:
…or I'd be screwed if something went wrong!

I believe it’s a conspiracy. It’s all by design

It’s right up their with Bill Gates and microchipping.

Edwin · Aug 13, 2023

The amount of livestream productions I'm designing or consulting on, grows weekly..., if I, for some crazy reason, lost my big rig, I'd go berserk! :zany:

I'd probably want to slit my wrists if I had to do everything on a 15.6" Laptop!!! :nope:

antspants · Aug 13, 2023

Edwin said:
I'd probably want to slit my wrists if I had to do everything on a 15.6" Laptop!!!

ha! Screw that for an idea.

Ghot · Aug 13, 2023

@Scannerman posted this video... here... it's long, but pretty interesting...

Definitely want to grab something to drink and make a sandwich.

antspants · Aug 13, 2023

Ghot said:
Definitely want to grab something to drink and make a sandwich.

May I suggest Cannibalism? It's free.

Alex__ASSR · Aug 13, 2023

"I Still Prefer Windows 10"

Windows 10 Forums
joke.

Scannerman · Aug 14, 2023

I have my reasons for never running Win 10 on my work station. Despite all my challenges with Win 11 I still put it on my work station. Win 11 does have more promise than Windows 10 but it still falls short of my expectations. I run Win 10 on PCs I don't worry about so much. I haven't used a decent Windows OS that I could feel good about using to the point of praise since Win 7. That is also why I still use Win 7.

JAM83 · Aug 14, 2023

Stigg said:
I've always been an early adopter of new Windows operating systems and very adaptive to change, but Windows 11 offers me nothing.
Windows 11 is the first Microsoft operating system that takes more than it gives.

That's why all my computers except one are staying with Windows 10 for now.

What do you think?

Stay calm, guys. I know most of you love Windows 11. I don't agree, but it's just a healthy debate.

Windows Vista was horrible

Scannerman · Aug 14, 2023

I think Windows 11 is an improvement over Windows 10. Stigg probably misses Cortana and hey, that's their right. Some people love the Windows key logger edition. Myself, I could care less for it. Another thing I find repugnant is having to do major surgery on an OS to cut out the bloatware, spyware, adware, fearware, and junkware that comes with it. Windows 11 backed off of that considerably so I can give them an atta boy for that, but who knows? Perhaps they'll start cramming that stuff back into our operating systems via updates and secure it with TPM2.

Windows Vista was a painful growing experience that led to the best OS Microsoft ever released: Windows 7.
Windows 8 was a nightmare that was short-lived and Windows 8.1 was an improvement but only a compromise.
Windows 10 was the love child of a megalomaniac and an idolatrous erotic fantasy for pubescent boys lost in shooter games.

Anyway, that's just my opinion. I can't say how many Windows 10 OS I've had to butcher just to get a half decent operating system that could pass for respectable.

jimbo45 · Aug 14, 2023

martyfelker said:
I still prefer Windows 2000 - can somebody send me a link? Seriously, I hope everybody has a safe and happy holiday week.

Hi there
you wanted it -- here's one that has zillions of old OS'es etc etc and still working and legal

Internet Archive: Digital Library of Free & Borrowable Texts, Movies, Music & Wayback Machine

archive.org

(BTW have you tried the new Archlinux "guided install") -- it's not bad -- not quite 100% but working reasonably. Once you've booted the archlinux latest iso - from the archlinux # prompt after login just type archinstall. Choose GRUB also when it asks you for a boot loader -- not all of the other boot loader options work - I'm still playing around with it -- also don't select choose mirrors as there's stil a defect I'm messing with in the script --it's like an ikea store - you can't get out of that section !!!! willl be fixed soon).

Incidentally you can run your "physical windows" from within a VM if you install KVM/qemu - just set the boot device to the disk, external usb device or whatever. You need to install the virtio drivers though --no problem on a "Real system" - doesn't do any harm - quite useful to have the same windows both as a VM and as a Real machine especially if it's on a Windows to Go device !)

I created the "Real windows by first creating a VM and then copying it to a real machine -- and then adding the physical drivers plus other applications. Now the same windows runs in both environments. It also makes it easier to run applications in a VM when the HOST OS doesn't know about the hardware too --even for pcie devices as you can simply add thepcie device in the VM's config,

cheers
jimbo

ZERO269 · Aug 14, 2023

DigitalGoat said:
but for me personally none of it matters as I never really use any of those options

I honestly think you should care... and here's why:

Because at the end of the day... WE are the CUSTOMERS.

How often do YOU buy services from companies that constantly remove services that others enjoy? Do you go online and rave about it? Yay! They removed the heated pool services in the winter! Oh, well. I never swam in the winter and had no need for those services. Now the company can save money on energy! Yippy!

I always support ADDING features and services... even if I have no interest in using them.

But when one takes a position of … oh well, I don't use them. So what? I think you know where you stand amongst those whom you look to for answers to your issues.

Can't print to your 3D printer? Sorry, dude. I don't use those services.

These are just some things to think about when it comes to a companies role in peoples lives... support good decisions that ADD value, not bad decisions that TAKE value.

Just saying...

DigitalGoat · Aug 15, 2023

ZERO269 said:
I honestly think you should care... and here's why:

Because at the end of the day... WE are the CUSTOMERS.

How often do YOU buy services from companies that constantly remove services that others enjoy? Do you go online and rave about it? Yay! They removed the heated pool services in the winter! Oh, well. I never swam in the winter and had no need for those services. Now the company can save money on energy! Yippy!

I always support ADDING features and services... even if I have no interest in using them.

But when one takes a position of … oh well, I don't use them. So what? I think you know where you stand amongst those whom you look to for answers to your issues.

Can't print to your 3D printer? Sorry, dude. I don't use those services.

These are just some things to think about when it comes to a companies role in peoples lives... support good decisions that ADD value, not bad decisions that TAKE value.

Just saying...

You asked what I thought, I told you what I thought, as a customer and user of Windows, now you are telling me I should think differently, so there was no point asking for my opinion in the first place was there?
I do not support adding features and services unless those features and services are needed, likewise I don't have a problem with removing services and features if they are not needed.
As far as Windows 10/ 11 are concerned, being the topic of discussion here, not swimming pools and 3D printers which are not computer operating systems, the changes from 10 to 11 have had no detrimental impact on my use of my PC and programs and have made things more stable and secure.
It is entirely possible for two different customers of the same service to hold opposing views and that is fine, nothing that Microsoft have done with Windows 11 has taken value away from my perspective, as a customer.
If you feel different and prefer to stick with an older version of the OS then that is your right.

Senecio · Aug 15, 2023

JAM83 said:
Windows Vista was horrible

I rather liked the '3D' buttons and interface - even if they did slow everything down. In my opinion, the move to the flat 'Apple style' more cartoon-like windows interface in Windows 7 was a disappointment. Of course, in terms of speed and in many other ways, Windows 7 was an overall improvement.

x BlueRobot · Aug 15, 2023

I see this continous debate all the time: Windows 7 is the best OS, Windows 10 was better than Windows 11; yet no one seems to give an actual technical reason other than some UI changes or niche features which were used by like 5% of users.

The operating system is simply there for the user to run their applications on, there is many different operating systems available to use, if you don't like Windows 11 then either stay with Windows 7/10 or just switch to an alternative like BSD, Solaris or Linux.

I do wonder, specifically with Insider builds, how many of the changes are due to A/B testing?

Edwin · Aug 15, 2023

x BlueRobot said:
I see this continuous debate all the time...

It's like beatin a dead horse...

Say you wanna buy a Chevy but, it's only available in blue...

... well..., they sell paint every day!

It's their OS and I chose to rent it. If it's possible to tweak it to my liking, I'm gonna do it.

Ghot · Aug 15, 2023

All these different opinions even though everyone knows XP was the best.

All that needed done was to convert it to 64 bit, completely.

pparks1 · Aug 15, 2023

Ghot said:
All these different opinions even though everyone knows XP was the best.
All that needed done was to convert it to 64 bit, completely.

Ah yes, the good ole XP days. Back when the OS crapped out and slowed down to a crawl about every 6 months and had to be reinstalled from scratch.

Ghot · Aug 15, 2023

pparks1 said:
Ah yes, the good ole XP days. Back when the OS crapped out and slowed down to a crawl about every 6 months and had to be reinstalled from scratch.

Only if you didn't use backup software.

I ran XP for 12 years straight... never had to reinstall once.

Norton Ghost 2003. Best backup software... ever.

Won't run on any Windows after Vista.

man00 · Aug 15, 2023

Edwin said:
It's like beatin a dead horse...

Say you wanna buy a Chevy but, it's only available in blue...

... well..., they sell paint every day!

It's their OS and I chose to rent it. If it's possible to tweak it to my liking, I'm gonna do it.

I wanted to buy a Chevy but had to settle for a silverado :)

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