Solved Intel Platform Trust Technology (PTT) Disable or Enable?


PvtJohnTowle

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Should I have this on enabled for disabled? It was disabled. I have now enabled it. Is there any advantage /disadvantage having it on or off? My compuuter was working OK without it enabled. I am just thinking for future reference if I need to reinstall Windows 11 or future iterations of Windows. It's not a new motherboard and it doesn't have the TPM 2.0 module.


www.onlogic.com

TPM 2.0 for Windows 11 - What is it and what about Intel PTT and AMD fTPM?

In 2021, Microsoft announced that it would require TPM 2.0 for Windows 11 installation. This has led to a fair bit of confusion about TPM (Trusted Platform Module) and what it means for those looking to upgrade to Windows 11. In
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Hardware-based TPM has been around for a while. More recently, both AMD and Intel have begun implementing firmware TPM, or fTPM, solutions. For example, Intel’s Platform Trust Technology (PTT) found in some Intel chipsets provides the same TPM security protocols without the need for an additional physical chip. To your operating system and applications, PTT looks and acts exactly like TPM. The difference is, computers with Intel PTT or AMD’s built-in firmware version don’t require a dedicated crypto-processor or memory.
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PvtJohnTowle said:
Should I have this on enabled for disabled? It was disabled. I have now enabled it. Is there any advantage /disadvantage having it on or off? My compuuter was working OK without it enabled. I am just thinking for future reference if I need to reinstall Windows 11 or future iterations of Windows. It's not a new motherboard and it doesn't have the TPM 2.0 module.
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While Windows 11 can work without any form of TPM, you cannot do a clean install of Windows 11 on a machine without TPM 2.0. (Well, you can, but you have to use various workarounds to install on an unsupported device.) Without TPM 2.0 the installer will say your device is not supported and will not install Windows 11.

Intel Platform Trust Technology (Intel PTT) is a firmware implementation of TPM 2.0 without the need for a discrete TPM module. It satisfies the Windows 11 system requirements for a supported device.

Intel® Platform Trust Technology (Intel® PTT) - Intel® Platform Trust Technology (Intel® PTT) offers the capabilities of discrete TPM 2.0. Intel PTT is a platform functionality for credential storage and key management used by Windows 8* , Windows® 10 and Windows* 11. Intel PTT supports BitLocker* for hard drive encryption and supports all Microsoft requirements for firmware Trusted Platform Module (fTPM) 2.0.
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www.intel.co.uk

Trusted Platform Module (TPM) Information for Intel® NUC

Requirements for Trusted Platform Module and Intel® Platform Trust Technology
www.intel.co.uk www.intel.co.uk
 

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    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October 2021 it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update, and 24H2 on 3rd October 2024 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 24H2.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Hyper-V host machine.
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    Dell Latitude E4310
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    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
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    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Hyper-V host machine.
Bree said:
While Windows 11 can work without any form of TPM, you cannot do a clean install of Windows 11 on a machine without TPM 2.0. (Well, you can, but you have to use various workarounds to install on an unsupported device.) Without TPM 2.0 the installer will say your device is not supported and will not install Windows 11.

Intel Platform Trust Technology (Intel® PTT) is a firmware implementation of TPM 2.0 without the need for a discrete TPM device. It satisfies the Windows 11 system requirements for a supported device.


www.intel.co.uk

Trusted Platform Module (TPM) Information for Intel® NUC

Requirements for Trusted Platform Module and Intel® Platform Trust Technology
www.intel.co.uk www.intel.co.uk
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I just checked my bios and it says I have TPM20 device found (not 2.0) and as you state it is firmware based , I always thought I had TMP 1.2 but I could have been wrong
 

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    i7-7700k OC'd 4800 Mhz
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    Gigabyte Z270X Gaming 7
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    16GB
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    Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 Super OC GV-N206SWF2OC-8GD
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    Intel i5-1135G7
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    1 TB SSD
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    Chrome and Edge
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Brink said:
You can double check the TPM version using an option below.

www.tenforums.com

Verify Trusted Platform Module (TPM) Chip on Windows PC

How to Check if Windows PC has a Trusted Platform Module (TPM) Chip
www.tenforums.com www.tenforums.com
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Yes it's there in Device Manager. Thanks for that info. Now why can't I upgrade my 21H2 to 22H2? Would this be what was holding me back?

I would like both my computers on the latest Windows Version. Can I do this on my Desktop PC ?

Is there some tutorial or workaround I can follow?
 

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    i7-7700k OC'd 4800 Mhz
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    16GB
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    Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 Super OC GV-N206SWF2OC-8GD
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    Steel Series Arctis 1 Gaming Head phones
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    Asus ROG PG279Q Asus VE278 & Phillips 272V8
    Screen Resolution
    2560 X1440 27 Inch 165HZ Asus
    PSU
    Corsair RM750i (CP-9020082-AU) 750Watt 80Plus Gold Full Modular ATX Power Supply Unit
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    Corsair CC750D (CC-9011078) Obsidian 750D Airflow Edition Black Full Tower ATX Case
    Cooling
    Corsair H100i V2 (CW-9060025-WW) Universal Hydro High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Internet Security 21.3.10.391 [j]
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 23H2 22631.2715
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    Dell XPS EVO 13.3" RNX9305C01AUSB
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    Intel i5-1135G7
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    Dell
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    8 GB
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    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
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Are you able to upgrade to the latest 22H2 versions using an ISO like below?

www.elevenforum.com

Upgrade to Windows 11

This tutorial will show you step by step on how to use an ISO or USB to manually upgrade to Windows 11 from Windows 11 (older build/version), Windows 10, Windows 8.1, or Windows 7. Windows 11 has all the power and security of Windows 10 with a redesigned and refreshed look. It also comes with...
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    Custom self build
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    Intel i7-8700K 5 GHz
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    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
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    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
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    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING (11GB GDDR5X)
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    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
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    2 x Samsung Odyssey G75 27"
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    2560x1440
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    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
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    Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
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    Thermaltake Core P3 wall mounted
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    Logitech wireless K800
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    Logitech MX Master 3
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    Microsoft Defender and Malwarebytes Premium
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    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
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    16 GB LPDDR5x-7467 MHz
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    15" HDR
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    2496 x 1664
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    1 TB SSD
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    Wi-Fi 7 and Bluetooth 5.4
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    Chrome and Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
Brink said:
Are you able to upgrade to the latest 22H2 versions using an ISO like below?

www.elevenforum.com

Upgrade to Windows 11

This tutorial will show you step by step on how to use an ISO or USB to manually upgrade to Windows 11 from Windows 11 (older build/version), Windows 10, Windows 8.1, or Windows 7. Windows 11 has all the power and security of Windows 10 with a redesigned and refreshed look. It also comes with...
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Not without altering my appraiserres. dll file in the the Windows 11 ISO which seems to be working now as it us installing and now "Working On Updates" @ 14% as other people on this forum and I have confirmed with compatibility checker my CPU isn't supported by Windows 11.
 

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    CPU
    i7-7700k OC'd 4800 Mhz
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z270X Gaming 7
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 Super OC GV-N206SWF2OC-8GD
    Sound Card
    Steel Series Arctis 1 Gaming Head phones
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus ROG PG279Q Asus VE278 & Phillips 272V8
    Screen Resolution
    2560 X1440 27 Inch 165HZ Asus
    PSU
    Corsair RM750i (CP-9020082-AU) 750Watt 80Plus Gold Full Modular ATX Power Supply Unit
    Case
    Corsair CC750D (CC-9011078) Obsidian 750D Airflow Edition Black Full Tower ATX Case
    Cooling
    Corsair H100i V2 (CW-9060025-WW) Universal Hydro High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Internet Security 21.3.10.391 [j]
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 23H2 22631.2715
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS EVO 13.3" RNX9305C01AUSB
    CPU
    Intel i5-1135G7
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LED
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD
    Other Info
    https://www.thegoodguys.com.au/dell-xps-evo-133-inches-win-11-laptop-rnx9305c01ausb
All working now thanks for your help I am on 22H2
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2161
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Gigabyte Z270X Gaming 7
    CPU
    i7-7700k OC'd 4800 Mhz
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z270X Gaming 7
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 Super OC GV-N206SWF2OC-8GD
    Sound Card
    Steel Series Arctis 1 Gaming Head phones
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus ROG PG279Q Asus VE278 & Phillips 272V8
    Screen Resolution
    2560 X1440 27 Inch 165HZ Asus
    PSU
    Corsair RM750i (CP-9020082-AU) 750Watt 80Plus Gold Full Modular ATX Power Supply Unit
    Case
    Corsair CC750D (CC-9011078) Obsidian 750D Airflow Edition Black Full Tower ATX Case
    Cooling
    Corsair H100i V2 (CW-9060025-WW) Universal Hydro High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Internet Security 21.3.10.391 [j]
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 23H2 22631.2715
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS EVO 13.3" RNX9305C01AUSB
    CPU
    Intel i5-1135G7
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LED
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD
    Other Info
    https://www.thegoodguys.com.au/dell-xps-evo-133-inches-win-11-laptop-rnx9305c01ausb
Great news. :party:
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom self build
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING (11GB GDDR5X)
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung Odyssey G75 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    4TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
    Case
    Thermaltake Core P3 wall mounted
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H115i
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless K800
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1 Gbps Download and 35 Mbps Upload
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender and Malwarebytes Premium
    Other Info
    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Surface Laptop 7 Copilot+ PC
    CPU
    Snapdragon X Elite (12 core) 3.42 GHz
    Memory
    16 GB LPDDR5x-7467 MHz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15" HDR
    Screen Resolution
    2496 x 1664
    Hard Drives
    1 TB SSD
    Internet Speed
    Wi-Fi 7 and Bluetooth 5.4
    Browser
    Chrome and Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
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