Memory Speed For Ryzen 7 7700X Question


bikemanI7

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Currently running T-force DDR5 32GB RGB Ram @5600Mhz with AMD Expo enabled.

If i was to upgrade in the future to GSkill DDR 5 32GB @6000mhz, would it be a good idea or bad idea? am i leaving performance on the table?


Motherboard is MSI B650 VC Wifi Rev 1.0

Believe this ram is at 1.25 volts according to CPU-Z, i did notice the bit faster ram shows 1.35 volt, so not sure if i have to look for a kit with 1.25 volt to be safe or not
 
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    AMD Ryzen 7700X
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    MSI B650 VC WIfi
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    32GB DDR 5 RGB 5600Mhz
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    Radeon 7800XT
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    Intel I7 7700H
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    OEM HP Omen Laptop Motherboard
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    8GB DDR 4
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    Intel HD 630 and Nvidia Geforce 1050TI
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@bikemanI7


You won't notice any difference. Save your money.

I "like" GSkill RAM the best, but it's not worth it to go from 5600 to 6000



But if you must buy new RAM... here are all the 32GB two stick sets of Gskill RAM that are compatible with your...
MSI Pro B650-VC Wifi motherboard, running a 7000 series CPU.

 

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    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦26100.3775 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦24H2 ♦♦♦non-Insider
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 5002)
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    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
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    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
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    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
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    Dell U3011 30"
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    2560 x 1600
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    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
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    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
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    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
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    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
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    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
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    Logitech Optical M-100
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    300/300
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    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
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    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
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    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
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    Firefox 3.x ??
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    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 15 years?
Ok Thank you for the answer nice and quick---saves the money instead then.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 26100.3915
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PreBuilt
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7700X
    Motherboard
    MSI B650 VC WIfi
    Memory
    32GB DDR 5 RGB 5600Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon 7800XT
    Sound Card
    Onboard Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus VG245H
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990 Evo Plus NVMe Boot
    Samsung 990 Pro 1TB Game NVMe
    Samsung 860 Evo 1TB-Storage


    External
    Western Digital Elements 500GB
    Western Digital My Passport 2TB Blue
    Western Digital My Passport 2TB Red
    Toshiba 2TB in External Enclosure
    Seagate 8TB in External Enclosure
    Seagate 1TB Portable USB 3 External Drive
    Western Digital My Book 8TB (Primary Backup drive)
    Western Digital Black 4TB In External Enclosure
    PSU
    750 Watt High Power
    Case
    Lian Li Lan Cool 216 ARGB Airflow
    Cooling
    2 160MM Front, 1 140MM Rear Exhaust
    Keyboard
    Logitech G513
    Mouse
    Logitech G502 X
    Internet Speed
    Gigabit 1100Mb/35 Upload
    Browser
    MS Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Premium
    Other Info
    UEFI, Secure Boot, TPM 2.0, Macrium Reflect X
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Omen 15_ce019dx
    CPU
    Intel I7 7700H
    Motherboard
    OEM HP Omen Laptop Motherboard
    Memory
    8GB DDR 4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel HD 630 and Nvidia Geforce 1050TI
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6 Laptop Display
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    128GB NvMe Boot Drive
    1TB Hitachi Sata Hard drive
    PSU
    Laptop PSU
    Case
    Laptop Case
    Cooling
    OEM Cooling
    Mouse
    Logitech G502 Hero
    Keyboard
    OEM Laptop Keyboard
    Internet Speed
    Gigabit 1100 Download/35 Upload
    Browser
    MS Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender & Malwarebytes Premium
    Other Info
    Macrium Reflect X

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦26100.3775 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦24H2 ♦♦♦non-Insider
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 5002)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 15 years?
Well im very happy with my Radeon 7800XT Video card, but might save the money for other Household PC needs instead at this point, so far this current ram tested all fine with Memtest.

So not any emergency to replace or upgrade this ram after all i realize now
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 26100.3915
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PreBuilt
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7700X
    Motherboard
    MSI B650 VC WIfi
    Memory
    32GB DDR 5 RGB 5600Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon 7800XT
    Sound Card
    Onboard Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus VG245H
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990 Evo Plus NVMe Boot
    Samsung 990 Pro 1TB Game NVMe
    Samsung 860 Evo 1TB-Storage


    External
    Western Digital Elements 500GB
    Western Digital My Passport 2TB Blue
    Western Digital My Passport 2TB Red
    Toshiba 2TB in External Enclosure
    Seagate 8TB in External Enclosure
    Seagate 1TB Portable USB 3 External Drive
    Western Digital My Book 8TB (Primary Backup drive)
    Western Digital Black 4TB In External Enclosure
    PSU
    750 Watt High Power
    Case
    Lian Li Lan Cool 216 ARGB Airflow
    Cooling
    2 160MM Front, 1 140MM Rear Exhaust
    Keyboard
    Logitech G513
    Mouse
    Logitech G502 X
    Internet Speed
    Gigabit 1100Mb/35 Upload
    Browser
    MS Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Premium
    Other Info
    UEFI, Secure Boot, TPM 2.0, Macrium Reflect X
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Omen 15_ce019dx
    CPU
    Intel I7 7700H
    Motherboard
    OEM HP Omen Laptop Motherboard
    Memory
    8GB DDR 4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel HD 630 and Nvidia Geforce 1050TI
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6 Laptop Display
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    128GB NvMe Boot Drive
    1TB Hitachi Sata Hard drive
    PSU
    Laptop PSU
    Case
    Laptop Case
    Cooling
    OEM Cooling
    Mouse
    Logitech G502 Hero
    Keyboard
    OEM Laptop Keyboard
    Internet Speed
    Gigabit 1100 Download/35 Upload
    Browser
    MS Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender & Malwarebytes Premium
    Other Info
    Macrium Reflect X
Well im very happy with my Radeon 7800XT Video card, but might save the money for other Household PC needs instead at this point, so far this current ram tested all fine with Memtest.

So not any emergency to replace or upgrade this ram after all i realize now


If you want some grey hair, you can probably overclock that RAM you have... to 6000Mhz. ^^
Won't be easy with all the junk in the BIOS these days, but it's doable. :-)


Very short RAM overclocking guide...

Look up the exact same RAM you have but the 6000Mhz version.
Note the timing and the voltage.
Go in the BIOS, and attempt to set your 5600Mhz RAM to 6000Mhz, using the 6000Mhz frequency, timings and voltage.


Save your current BIOS profile (settings) before you attempt overclocking the RAM.
There should be 6 or 8 BIOS profile slots where you can save the current settings.


Then if you can't get the RAM stable at 6000Mhz, just load the 5600Mhz profile.



Like this... sort of...

Here's my current RAM which is 3200Mhz...

Same RAM but 3600Mhz...


So if I was gonna try to OC my 3200Mhz RAM to 3600Mhz, I would...

Choose 3600Mhz for the DRAM frequency
And use the timings from the 3600Mhz specs, as a guide.
If I can't get the RAM stable on 16-16-16-36 timings... I may be able to get it stable on maybe 18-18-18-40 timings.

On both sets of RAM the XMP voltage is 1.35v... so I wouldn't have to change that.


But since I know I won't notice much difference between 3200Mhz and 3600Mhz.... there's no real need to mess around with it.



Really short answer...
When you raise the frequency of the RAM you have to loosen (raise) the timings, to keep the RAM... stable.
This is also why you won't see much difference.

Lower timings are faster, just like higher frequency is faster. So when all is said and done... 3200Mhz with tighter (lower), timings, runs just about as fast as 3600Mhz RAM with looser (higher), timings.




In fact, the IC chips on the RAM sticks for the 3200Mhz and the 3600Mhz RAM are probably the same IC chips.
When they make the IC chips, they make them on huge disks, about 2-3 foot in diameter. Then they slice it into IC chips.

Some will run faster than others. So when they test the IC chips, they sort them... they put the "faster chips" on the 3600Mhz sticks and the "slower chips" on the 3200Mhz sticks.

ALL the IC chips they sell will be good.
It's just that some can run at a higher frequency and stay stable, than others can.
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦26100.3775 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦24H2 ♦♦♦non-Insider
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 5002)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 15 years?

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