Nero Start - Defender showing a PUP when launching


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I've used Nero software for years, and pay an annual sub for Nero 365.
Nero Start launcher app last updated on 10th Feb, but since today I've been getting a security warning when launching the app

A .NODE file is created in the user temp folders which Defender flags as a PUA/PUP

Doing a folder search the earliest one is dated 23rd Feb. The security warning only started today every time I launch Nero Start.

Launching Nero apps manually from their own shortcuts doesn't flag anything in Defender

Checked another PC, same problem.

Nero Start will launch and run even if I use Defender to remove the file
 

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BrianInEngland said:
I've used Nero software for years, and pay an annual sub for Nero 365.
Nero Start launcher app last updated on 10th Feb, but since today I've been getting a security warning when launching the app

A .NODE file is created in the user temp folders which Defender flags as a PUA/PUP

Doing a folder search the earliest one is dated 23rd Feb. The security warning only started today every time I launch Nero Start.

Launching Nero apps manually from their own shortcuts doesn't flag anything in Defender

Checked another PC, same problem.

Nero Start will launch and run even if I use Defender to remove the file
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Or contact Nero and tell them what is happening to you.
They ought to fix it speedily.
If not, use the suggested AnyBurn [I use that for ripping CDs]. Download AnyBurn - incl Portable


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Reads like a Definition update as apposed to anything done by Nero.
Defender seems to be on the warpath, Winaero Tweaker also just got hit with warnings.

Make sure your Defender is updated with any definitions available. From what I understand, Windows checks every day.
Also, if it is defender, enough people will probably flag it for query.
 

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Does this shortcut open Nero to run as admin?
You might want to find the .exe location and right click, look for and set “Run As Administrator” just as a hail Mary.
 

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I won't be uninstalling as Nero doesn't just burn discs - I use other features of the software.

Looks like a Defender issue as it started yesterday.
All definitions are up to date
 

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I also use the NERO suite (although an older version than yours) and it’s not the first time an antivirus has notified me with a warning when using NERO START, which for those who don’t know it is like a startup menu that includes all the NERO applications. That’s why I always run each application from its individual shortcut.

Although I agree that NERO has often been distributed as bloatware, it has some utilities that are too good and that few people know about (the video editor and compressor is impressive, not to mention the classic burning program and all its functions).

I also think it could be a false positive from the Windows antivirus. In recent weeks it hasn’t stopped warning me about suspicions with software that isn’t exactly new. I suppose the antivirus detects behaviors that aren’t usual in current software.

In any case, taking advantage of the fact that you have a subscription with NERO, I would write to them and notify them about what happened to you. In the meantime, run each application through its individual shortcut.
 

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win11raider said:
I also use the NERO suite (although an older version than yours) and it’s not the first time an antivirus has notified me with a warning when using NERO START, which for those who don’t know it is like a startup menu that includes all the NERO applications. That’s why I always run each application from its individual shortcut.

Although I agree that NERO has often been distributed as bloatware, it has some utilities that are too good and that few people know about (the video editor and compressor is impressive, not to mention the classic burning program and all its functions).

I also think it could be a false positive from the Windows antivirus. In recent weeks it hasn’t stopped warning me about suspicions with software that isn’t exactly new. I suppose the antivirus detects behaviors that aren’t usual in current software.

In any case, taking advantage of the fact that you have a subscription with NERO, I would write to them and notify them about what happened to you. In the meantime, run each application through its individual shortcut.
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Yes I use the image upscaler a lot, it's very good.
I only use Nero Start to check for updates
 

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Nero, just like Google, can display rotating ADs, it has zero control over them.
While most ADs are clean, some can be malicious, so Nero is definitely PUP.
BrianInEngland said:
I only use Nero Start to check for updates
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You can use winget or winget GUI apps to check for updates.
 

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Today it happened to me too, defender with definitions 1.445.422.0 detects Nero Start as a threat (PUA:Win32/Packunwan)
 

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Djweb74 said:
Today it happened to me too, defender with definitions 1.445.422.0 detects Nero Start as a threat (PUA:Win32/Packunwan)
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Seems to be a Defender issue more than anything.

I've raised a ticket with Nero support.
 

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Manufacturer/Model
MSI
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 8-core
Motherboard
MEG X870E Godlike
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64GB Corsair Titanium 6000/CL30
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MSI Suprim 5080 SOC
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Soundblaster AE-9
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ASUS TUF Gaming VG289Q
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Samsung 9100 Pro 4TB (gen 5 x4, system drive/games)
Samsung 990 Pro 2TB
Samsung 980 Pro 2TB
Samsung 870 Evo 4TB
Samsung 870 Evo 2TB
Samsung T9 4TB
PSU
Seasonic PX-2200
Case
Bequiet! Dark Base Pro 901
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Noctua NH-D15S Chromax black
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Logitech G915 X (wired)
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900Mb/sec
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Microsoft Edge
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Windows Defender
BrianInEngland said:
Seems to be a Defender issue more than anything.

I've raised a ticket with Nero support.
Click to expand...

I think the same as you... I also opened a ticket in Nero support
 

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    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
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Ghot said:
Did you read about AnyBurn in post #2?
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Yes but it doesn't do all that Nero does - it basically handles reading and writing of discs

Nero has an image upscaler which I use a lot, and other useful features
I just renewed my sub for Nero as well

Nero hasn't *just* been burning software for some years
 

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CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 8-core
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TairikuOkami said:
Nero, just like Google, can display rotating ADs, it has zero control over them.
While most ADs are clean, some can be malicious, so Nero is definitely PUP.

You can use winget or winget GUI apps to check for updates.
Click to expand...
I would think the paid version which they have would not have ads. But if it does, there are multiple other utilities that I would think would be better.
 

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andrew129260 said:
I would think the paid version which they have would not have ads. But if it does, there are multiple other utilities that I would think would be better.
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It doesn't have ads
 

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Manufacturer/Model
MSI
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 8-core
Motherboard
MEG X870E Godlike
Memory
64GB Corsair Titanium 6000/CL30
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MSI Suprim 5080 SOC
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Samsung 990 Pro 2TB
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Samsung 870 Evo 4TB
Samsung 870 Evo 2TB
Samsung T9 4TB
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Seasonic PX-2200
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Bequiet! Dark Base Pro 901
Cooling
Noctua NH-D15S Chromax black
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Logitech G915 X (wired)
Mouse
Logitech G903 with PowerPlay charger
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900Mb/sec
Browser
Microsoft Edge
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Windows Defender

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OS
Microsoft Windows 11 Pro 25H2 build 26200.8037
Computer type
PC/Desktop
CPU
Intel i9 9900K
Motherboard
ASUS ROG Strix Z390-E gaming
Memory
64 Gb DDR4 (4x16 Gb) HyperX Predator RGB @3200 MHz Cl16
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 2070 Super 8G GDDR6
Monitor(s) Displays
1 - SAMSUNG LED U28E590D 4K 60Hz <----> 2 - SAMSUNG ODYSSEY LC27G75TQSUXEN 2K GSYNC 240 Hz
Screen Resolution
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-) SAMSUNG SSD 1 TB Serie 970 EVO PLUS M. 2
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ASUS ROG-THOR-850P
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ASUS ROG Strix Helios
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ASUS ROG RYUO 240
Keyboard
ASUS ROG Strix Flare Red
Mouse
ASUS ROG Pugio II
Internet Speed
FTTH 2,5 Giga
Browser
Microsoft Edge

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OS
Windows 11 Pro 25H2 (RP channel)
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
MSI
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 8-core
Motherboard
MEG X870E Godlike
Memory
64GB Corsair Titanium 6000/CL30
Graphics Card(s)
MSI Suprim 5080 SOC
Sound Card
Soundblaster AE-9
Monitor(s) Displays
ASUS TUF Gaming VG289Q
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3840x2160
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Samsung 990 Pro 2TB
Samsung 980 Pro 2TB
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Samsung T9 4TB
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Seasonic PX-2200
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Bequiet! Dark Base Pro 901
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Noctua NH-D15S Chromax black
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Logitech G915 X (wired)
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Logitech G903 with PowerPlay charger
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900Mb/sec
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Microsoft Edge
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Windows Defender
BrianInEngland said:
Still waiting
Click to expand...

Support responded to you with two emails within a few hours today.

First Email​
Hi ********,

We apologize for the inconvenience.
This issue is caused by a recent Windows 11 update that imposes stricter requirements for Node.js files generated during program execution. We're working on a fix and will release a new version soon.

In the meantime, if you've already launched Nero applications like Nero Burning ROM or Nero Video, you can still run them from the Windows Start menu.

We apologize again for the inconvenience.

Second Email​
Hi **********,

Good news!
The new version is out. Simply download and install the latest Nero Core from https://www.nero.com/download.php?id=nerocore_full_installer, then launch Nero Start 28.5.61.0 and everything will work perfectly again!


... now I just have to try and see if it works :-)
 

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OS
Microsoft Windows 11 Pro 25H2 build 26200.8037
Computer type
PC/Desktop
CPU
Intel i9 9900K
Motherboard
ASUS ROG Strix Z390-E gaming
Memory
64 Gb DDR4 (4x16 Gb) HyperX Predator RGB @3200 MHz Cl16
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 2070 Super 8G GDDR6
Monitor(s) Displays
1 - SAMSUNG LED U28E590D 4K 60Hz <----> 2 - SAMSUNG ODYSSEY LC27G75TQSUXEN 2K GSYNC 240 Hz
Screen Resolution
1 - 3840x2160 2 - 2560x1440
Hard Drives
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-) SAMSUNG SSD 1 TB Serie 970 EVO PLUS M. 2
-) SAMSUNG SSD 1 TB Serie 970 EVO PLUS M. 2
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ASUS ROG-THOR-850P
Case
ASUS ROG Strix Helios
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ASUS ROG RYUO 240
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ASUS ROG Strix Flare Red
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ASUS ROG Pugio II
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Microsoft Edge
Djweb74 said:
Support responded to you with two emails within a few hours today.

First Email​
Hi ********,

We apologize for the inconvenience.
This issue is caused by a recent Windows 11 update that imposes stricter requirements for Node.js files generated during program execution. We're working on a fix and will release a new version soon.

In the meantime, if you've already launched Nero applications like Nero Burning ROM or Nero Video, you can still run them from the Windows Start menu.

We apologize again for the inconvenience.

Second Email​
Hi **********,

Good news!
The new version is out. Simply download and install the latest Nero Core from https://www.nero.com/download.php?id=nerocore_full_installer, then launch Nero Start 28.5.61.0 and everything will work perfectly again!


... now I just have to try and see if it works :-)
Click to expand...
I had the first email, I'm sure I'll have the other one when I check
 

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OS
Windows 11 Pro 25H2 (RP channel)
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Manufacturer/Model
MSI
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 8-core
Motherboard
MEG X870E Godlike
Memory
64GB Corsair Titanium 6000/CL30
Graphics Card(s)
MSI Suprim 5080 SOC
Sound Card
Soundblaster AE-9
Monitor(s) Displays
ASUS TUF Gaming VG289Q
Screen Resolution
3840x2160
Hard Drives
Samsung 9100 Pro 4TB (gen 5 x4, system drive/games)
Samsung 990 Pro 2TB
Samsung 980 Pro 2TB
Samsung 870 Evo 4TB
Samsung 870 Evo 2TB
Samsung T9 4TB
PSU
Seasonic PX-2200
Case
Bequiet! Dark Base Pro 901
Cooling
Noctua NH-D15S Chromax black
Keyboard
Logitech G915 X (wired)
Mouse
Logitech G903 with PowerPlay charger
Internet Speed
900Mb/sec
Browser
Microsoft Edge
Antivirus
Windows Defender
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