Solved Satellite L500-19X New HDD

chrisD123 · Aug 13, 2023

I have this Toshiba and the hard drive has died...I am thinking about putting a new HDD in and reinstating the original W7 as I have the product key , then upgrading to W11. Is this feasible please?

AndreTen · Aug 13, 2023

If you had Win 11 installed before, you can download Windows 11 ISO from Microsoft and install Win 11 directly.
But your option is feasible too.

And buy new SSD, not HDD.

chrisD123 · Aug 13, 2023

Thank you. The computer only ran W7...never upgraded before it died. So W11 will run Ok on this spec. Much appreciate your help and I was thinking an SDD was the way to go. Chris

Ghot · Aug 13, 2023

chrisD123 said:
Thank you. The computer only ran W7...never upgraded before it died. So W11 will run Ok on this spec. Much appreciate your help and I was thinking an SDD was the way to go. Chris

Hello Chris and welcome to ElevenForum.

We don't know what the specs are. But Windows 10 will definitely run on anything that ran Windows 7.
And... starting from Windows 7, you have to stop at Windows 10 anyway... then you can upgrade Win 10 to Win 11, if the hardware will handle it.

If you have your Windows 7 key, you can use that to do a clean install of Windows 10 (but not Win 11).
Once you're ON Windows 10 however, you can then just do an update or upgrade to Windows 11.

You can also upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10, but Win 7 and Win 10 are so different... a clean install is probably best.

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chrisD123 · Aug 13, 2023

From the Toshiba website - Toshiba Satellite L500-19X. Processor family: Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core, Processor model: T4300, Processor frequency: 2.1 GHz. Display diagonal: 39.6 cm (15.6"), Display resolution: 1366 x 768 pixels. Internal memory: 4 GB, Internal memory type: DDR2-SDRAM. Total storage capacity: 500 GB, Optical drive type: DVD Super Multi DL.

Hope this helps...Regards Chris

AndreTen · Aug 13, 2023

One thing... Yopur Satelite won't upgrade to Win 11 without some tweaking. Windows should install fine, but hope you have more than 4 GB of RAM.

chrisD123 · Aug 13, 2023

Will investigate the possibility of adding more RAM. Thank you

Ghot · Aug 13, 2023

chrisD123 said:
Will investigate the possibility of adding more RAM. Thank you

You may find it cheaper to just buy a Win 11 laptop.
1. You know it'll be compatible with Win 11
2. It will definitely have an SSD already.
3. It will definitely have more RAM.

If you can tell us what country you are in.. we can make some suggestions.

AndreTen · Aug 13, 2023

chrisD123 said:
Will investigate the possibility of adding more RAM. Thank you

Check the possibility to get a new laptop. T4300 is a bit old processor, and DDR2 rams are hard to get. Laying around, but not selled much anymore.

I heard users here getting really good used laptops for not much..

bobkn · Aug 13, 2023

The T4300 isn't on the list of CPUs that support Windows 11. There may be other issues as well (like no TPM.)

It's probably possible to work around those.

Otherwise, the laptop is about at the lowest end of the hardware requirements. It might run better if you doubled the RAM. Which may be difficult to do at retail, as the machine wants DDR2. (Ancient.)

The low value of such an old laptop makes upgrading it a pretty dubious proposition.

Ghot · Aug 13, 2023

@chrisD123

Just to give you an idea, what you can get for fairly cheap.
You can see the filters I used across the top, and they're sorted from lowest to highest price...

Check out these laptops...

Everyone of these laptops comes with Win 11, an SSD, and at least 16GB of RAM...
Near the top-center on Newegg, you can click the American flag and change the country if needed.

I think your best move would be a new Win 11 laptop.

Just to give you an idea of the prices for external SSDs, these days... and it would fit in your pocket.

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chrisD123 · Aug 13, 2023

It seems that 4GB RAM is the maximum that can be fitted so it looks as if it goes for recycling. Many thanks for your Help & Advice.

Chris

Ghot · Aug 13, 2023

chrisD123 said:
It seems that 4GB RAM is the maximum that can be fitted so it looks as if it goes for recycling. Many thanks for your Help & Advice.

Chris

Browsers these days use a lot of RAM, all by themselves.
I have Firefox running with only 4 tabs open, and it's using almost 2GB of RAM.

And Task Manager says that Firefox is running in efficiency mode.

glasskuter · Aug 13, 2023

bobkn said:
It might run better if you doubled the RAM.

He can't. That machine maxes out at 4 gb.
@chrisD123 Windows 10 will work on 4gb (though not very well unless one has limited apps and tabs open at once. Even then it pushes it to its limit and might be slow as Christmas) Gaming is a definite no. Windows 11 is a definite no.
I agree that it's time to look into a newer device if it's possible for you. You're spinning your wheels with trying to upgrade that one. I fully understand that in certain parts of the world folks' individual situations make upgrading to a newer device difficult or impossible.

To add to @Ghot's very good suggestion of reasonably priced laptops, used Windows 11 compatible devices can be found depending on where you are located and if you know what to look for..

chrisD123 · Aug 13, 2023

Advice appreciated.

Regards

Chris

chrisD123 · Aug 13, 2023

By the way...I am in the UK and thought I might be able to avoid scrapping it...but no, just not worthwhile.

Thanks for all the advice from various members.

Chris

bobkn · Aug 13, 2023

glasskuter said:
He can't. That machine maxes out at 4 gb.
(snip)

Yikes. I see that's correct.

I was able to get Win10 X64 running on a 2008 vintage HP/Compaq CQ50-105NR, when it was max'd out at 4GB. I suppose that Win11 would run on such a machine as well. I haven't tried it; the machine is awaiting recycling.

TM21 · Aug 13, 2023

Sir, if your Toshiba has a 64 bit CPU, then it will run Windows 11, that has been Rufusized.*
* With all the MS compatibility BS removed. So you can ignore all that BS.
Win-11 will NOT run on a 32 bit system. Period.

I just installed Win-11/Pro/64 on a very old Dell Latitude D820 (bios date 2008), (Google it), by cloning my desktop PC to a 120GB SSD and then installing the SSD into the Dell. It whirred, chirped, burped & fahrted, (only kidding) settled in, loaded a few drivers, and then took off running like it had been there forever. Time=less than five minutes.
So for those who are brave enough to try, running Win-11 on old hardware is no big deal. I've personally told how it's done, several times on this very forum, and a few others too. But, who ever listens to me?
But if you listen to the MS fan boys, you'll never get there!

Good Luck!
TM

PS: That old Dell Latitude has been running Windows 8.1/x86 (32 bit) for years, with only 1GB of ram and an old 80GB spinner.
To run Windows 11/pro/64, I maxed out the ram to 2GB and exchanged the old spinner for a 120GB Crucial SSD.
Today, the little ol' Dell is no speed demon, but it's running Windows 11 with no complaints at all. It will make me a nice traveling companion, if I ever go traveling again.

TM21 · Aug 13, 2023

OK,
Toshiba Satellite L500-19X T4300 15.6" Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core 4 GB DDR2-SDRAM 500 GB Intel® GMA 4500M Windows 7 Home Premium Black, Silver :

- Black, Silver
- Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core T4300 2.1 GHz
- 15.6" 1366 x 768 pixels LED backlight 16:9
- 4 GB DDR2-SDRAM 800 MHz 2 x 2 GB
- 500 GB DVD Super Multi DL
- Intel® GMA 4500M
- Ethernet LAN
- 3.33 h 65 W
- Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

According to this, Windows 11/pro/64 should run on this old laptop just fine.
But to bypass all the MS restrictions, the ISO should be burned to a Flash drive, using Rufus. That will remove all the compatibility restrictions.
For the notsogory details, drop me a PM.
TM

SIW2 · Aug 13, 2023

you could run win10 32 bit on that machine.

It should be possible to install win11 ( 64 bit ) but it wont be great.

Perhaps it is time to pick a more recent machine. Not necessarily brand new, anything intel 8th gen should be fine.

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