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Joop · 2025-03-17T14:27:15-0400

With all this discussion about VPN, is it actually make my on line banking et. more secure?
I use the paid version from Malwarebytes.

Berton · 2025-03-17T14:29:47-0400

I have a client that uses a VPN and hasn't had any issues with it and his banking.

Tester · 2025-03-17T14:32:20-0400

If your in a public place with wifi, i would use VPN to a exitpoint in your own country so from there it goes to the bank website.
if your at home, and use VPN, to some exitpoint at the otherside of the world, and then connect back to your own country where the back website is located. Then from my point of view there are lots more places, that could capture the (encrypted) data, so making it less secure. So for home usage i would just use own provider + shortest route to bank.

Joop · 2025-03-17T14:36:14-0400

Berton said:
I have a client that uses a VPN and hasn't had any issues with it and his banking.

Thank you for the quick reply.
I was just wondering if it would be more secure at home.

neemobeer · 2025-03-17T15:27:51-0400

VPNs are not for security, only privacy (caveats here too). Now some providers of VPN services will bolt on security features, but that was never the intention of a VPN.

You may thinks is more secure (sure a VPN encrypts traffic) but that is already handled with HTTPS. You do get privacy as in your DNS queries are often also encrypted and hidden from the ISP your traffic is traversing, except now the company providing the VPN service can potentially see all of your traffic, so really you are just shifting your privacy and trust in the VPN service provider (the caveats)

If your computer is compromised (a VPN will not offer any security here)

Tester · 2025-03-17T16:10:59-0400

neemobeer said:
VPNs are not for security, only privacy (caveats here too). Now some providers of VPN services will bolt on security features, but that was never the intention of a VPN.

A bit of remarks here, before VPN providers for privacy where a thing. We only used VPN for security reasons, site-to-site, connecting diffrent branches of offices trough VPN, and making the local networks transparant, let users connect to office trough vpn as endpoint in a LAN, instead of getting a public IP. A part of security is ofcouse the privacy, but privacy was not the main use of it, but security. But sinds the VPN providers are around for privacy people refer it more to privacy then security... So it also depens on the usecase of how the VPN is used.

neemobeer · 2025-03-17T16:13:32-0400

Even then it wasn't really a security thing. It's just a way to extend a network.

Tester · 2025-03-17T16:22:01-0400

neemobeer said:
It's just a way to extend a network.

In a secure way yes. However if you where to intercept VPN traffic as a man in the middle (eavesdropping), then you know both ip's both end-points ip's and so always could indentify the 2 who those 2 ipadresses are. So the VPN point-to-point itself is not really privacy. But from eye point of VPN providers, you really can't see those 2 ip that are tunneling. However every ISP in between can see it.

neemobeer · 2025-03-17T17:01:51-0400

Yeah, there is still 'security' to make the data private. I guess I would say it's the means to the end :)

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