Where to back up loads of data?


David9726

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If you have around 120TB of data where would you store it? Been keeping it on my local server looking for other options in case of a fire or other natural disaster. Putting that much in the cloud is not feasible and the cost would be to much.

I don't have any family or friends that could store it for me, i do have a garage that is not connected to the house but it gets cold and hot in there.

It's about 30 years worth of data.
 

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Offside co-located hosting in your town? Pay a bit for rack space and energy bill, and the internet connection. Set up your device local, copy everything. Then move the equipment to that side, place the hardware, and set up the sync to keep it in sync. We have a couple of sites in my town, you get your own accesscode, and you can enter there day and night, to do what ever maintance is needed there.
 

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Or buy as many disks as required to have a copy of the data and keep the disks at another location. You don't need to sync everything, only the new data, put the old data (older than 1-2 years) in separate disks so you don't mix them with the current data.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (build 22631.4249) test laptop, Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894) main PC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
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    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
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    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
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    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
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    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
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    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
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    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
How is it stored now? I use a NAS drive attached to my Wireless Router and can Map the main folder on it from any computer that can access the Router and in turn the Internet. I have 2 x 4TB drives in the NAS running as RAID 1, 4TB total storage with mirroring. [RAID 0 striping would give 8TB.]

I got started building/repairing computers 30 years ago [new job after retiring] and the drives weren't large in today's terms, 540MB was big then but could only partition/format at 512MB and have a second partition..
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro RTM
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 3400
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 11th Gen. 2.40GHz
    Memory
    12GB
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD NVMe M.2
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro RTM x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 5890
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 10th Gen. 2.90GHz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Onboard, no VGA, using a DisplayPort-to-VGA adapter
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Dell
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD NVMe, 4TB Seagate HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender/Microsoft Security
I have it stored on two unraid servers. One is always on with all my self hosting apps and the other one i turn on once a month and sync changes over from the other. It works great and has for years.

Downside being if there is a fire they both get burnt. I live in the country IE no hosting in town. My original thought was to store in the cloud what can't be replaced like family photo scans.
 

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If you have around 120TB of data where would you store it? Been keeping it on my local server looking for other options in case of a fire or other natural disaster. Putting that much in the cloud is not feasible and the cost would be to much.

I don't have any family or friends that could store it for me, i do have a garage that is not connected to the house but it gets cold and hot in there.

It's about 30 years worth of data.
I cannot imagine why people would hoard 30 years of data (for ordinary no business consumers).

I would not even be able to remember what 98+% of the data is for!

I can see why some professions e.g. lawyers may need to archive data for many years, or MI5 for example.

I bet if you seriously review your data, it would only be a few TB that is absolutely critical, and it would probably be feasible to use cloud services for that subset.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Zenbook 14
    CPU
    I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB soldered
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop OLED screen
    Screen Resolution
    2880x1800 touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
    PSU
    Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
    Keyboard
    Built in UK keybd
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
    Internet Speed
    900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

    Macrium Reflect Home V8
    Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
    Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
My original thought was to store in the cloud what can't be replaced like family photo scans.
That could be good but keep in mind the Cloud is still on a computer somewhere and still subject to a number of things such as power failures, hardware failures, hacking, etc. Other things could be current software and future software aiding or preventing access. Things with more permanence are petroglyphs/heiroglyphs.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro RTM
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 3400
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 11th Gen. 2.40GHz
    Memory
    12GB
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD NVMe M.2
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro RTM x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 5890
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 10th Gen. 2.90GHz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Onboard, no VGA, using a DisplayPort-to-VGA adapter
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Dell
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD NVMe, 4TB Seagate HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender/Microsoft Security
The cheapest way would be to buy about 12, 12TB HDDs at about £140 each. Less if you were able to source used drives. Are you certain about the size? Do you mean 120 GB?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2894
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    CPU
    Pentium Silver N6000 1.10GHz
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD
    Cooling
    fanless
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere
    Other Info
    System 3

    ASUS T100TA Transformer
    Processor Intel Atom Z3740 @ 1.33GHz
    Installed RAM 2.00 GB (1.89 GB usable)
    System type 32-bit operating system, x64-based processor

    Edition Windows 10 Home
    Version 22H2 build 19045.3570
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
I cannot imagine why people would hoard 30 years of data (for ordinary no business consumers).

I would not even be able to remember what 98+% of the data is for!

I can see why some professions e.g. lawyers may need to archive data for many years, or MI5 for example.

I bet if you seriously review your data, it would only be a few TB that is absolutely critical, and it would probably be feasible to use cloud services for that subset.

I was a geek as a kid with money, pretty easy to get tons of data over 30 years time. It's all organized by year. All the family VHS, DVD's etc it adds up over time.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 11
That could be good but keep in mind the Cloud is still on a computer somewhere and still subject to a number of things such as power failures, hardware failures, hacking, etc. Other things could be current software and future software aiding or preventing access. Things with more permanence are petroglyphs/heiroglyphs.

Yeah i really don't like the cloud or paying monthly fees. For the longest time i just used fire/water proof safes as i am not worried about theft.

I still use the safes but who knows if they would really hold up in a fire. You can buy media safes made for HDD's but they are not cheap.
 

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  • OS
    Win 11
I don't see how anyone could get this much in storage unless they were torrenting, having an insane media collection, or something illegal.

But yeah, with that much storage if you want to keep it your going to need to spend money and lots of it.

No question.

Maybe a local data center or even getting a storage unit having it on multiple Internal Drives in a secure leak proof container.


And as others pointed out, I doubt all of it is required. I would go through and make sure you really need some of it.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5700 X3D
    Motherboard
    MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS
    Memory
    64 GB DDR4 3600mhz Gskill Ripjaws V
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 4070 Super , 12GB VRAM Asus EVO Overclock
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gigabyte M27Q (rev. 2.0) 2560 x 1440 @ 170hz HDR
    Hard Drives
    2TB Samsung nvme ssd
    2TB XPG nvme ssd
    PSU
    CORSAIR RMx SHIFT Series™ RM750x 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
    Case
    CORSAIR 3500X ARGB Mid-Tower ATX PC Case – Black
    Cooling
    ID-COOLING FROSTFLOW X 240 CPU Water Cooler
    Internet Speed
    900mbps DOWN, 100mbps UP
  • Operating System
    Chrome OS
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Chromebook
    CPU
    Intel Pentium Quad Core
    Memory
    4GB LPDDR4
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14 Inch HD SVA anti glare micro edge display
    Hard Drives
    64 GB emmc
You could get a hold of Seagate’s 30 TB drives. You’ll need four just to store one copy of the data. Drives are generally about $15/TB, from what I read (check local listings), so that’s $450x4, so $1800. Better get another set for redundancy.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel NUC12WSHi7
    CPU
    12th Gen Intel Core i7-1260P, 2100 MHz
    Motherboard
    NUC12WSBi7
    Memory
    64 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    built-in Realtek HD audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3219Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160 @ 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 990 PRO 1TB
    Keyboard
    CODE 104-Key Mechanical with Cherry MX Clears
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
  • Operating System
    Linux Mint 21.2 (Cinnamon)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel NUC8i5BEH
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8259U CPU @ 2.30GHz
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Iris Plus 655
    Keyboard
    CODE 104-Key Mechanical with Cherry MX Clears
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