Why is 2h24 a "disaster" to some people.


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Are there issues specif to an upgrade from 2H23 to 2H24?

In another forum someone says that 2H24 is a "disaster." I'm torn between using 2H23 (which goes EOL in November) or 2H24 for a new install for my workhorse desktop. Are there really important reasons not to use 2H24? Will those issues be cleared up in the next few months?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    home built
    CPU
    AMD 7900x
    Motherboard
    ASUS AMD x670E ROG Strix E-A
    Memory
    64 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia 3060 Ti (but wanting to upgrade)
    Sound Card
    built-in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 24"
    Cooling
    AIO for CPU, fans for case
    Keyboard
    Das Keyboard 4
    Mouse
    Corsair M65 (white)
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender
    Other Info
    Also have Lenovo T14S laptop (me) and Lenovo Slim 71 (wife)
Good question with no definitive answer. It depends on who you talk to as to whether they like it or not. Most of us here either have no issues with 24h2 or have worked out the ones we might have encountered. I had to do a clean install on one systemwhen the upgrade failed but since it's been flawless and I like it just fine. I have 2 other systems that upgraded just fine.I believe that with the regulars here, there are more who upgraded successfully than those who had issues.

MS has worked out most of the original problems but there is still a few things on their list of known issues.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.3194
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme+256gb SKHynix m.2 nvme /External drives 512gb Samsung m.2 sata+1tb Kingston m2.nvme+ 4gb Solidigm nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    #1 Edge #2 Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
It’s noticeably more system intensive on older systems, in my opinion.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build 22631.5039
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4 x LG 23MP75 - 2 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list.
    OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    100/40Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.4249
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics Processor
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Antivirus
    Defender / Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Stigg's Build
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-10900X
    Motherboard
    GIGABYTE X299X DESIGNARE 10G
    Memory
    Corsair 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) CMW64GX4M4C3000C15 Vengeance RGB Pro 3000Mhz DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1660 Super Mini ITX 6 GB OC
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 27" FHD LED FreeSync Gaming Monitor (LS27F350FHEXXY)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Pro Series 1TB M.2 2280 NVMe SSD
    Western Digital Red Pro WD8003FFBX-68B9AN0 8 TB, 7200 RPM, SATA-III
    Western Digital Red Pro WD8003FFBX-68B9AN0 8 TB, 7200 RPM, SATA-III
    PSU
    Corsair HX1200 1200W 80 Plus Platinum
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 Black Solid Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Chromax Black
    Keyboard
    Razer Ornata V2
    Mouse
    Razer DeathAdder Essential
    Internet Speed
    FTTN 100Mbps / 40Mbps
    Browser
    Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    N/A
    Other Info
    Logitech BRIO 4k Ultra HD USB-C Webcam
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Zephyrus M GM501GS
    CPU
    Core i7-8750H
    Motherboard
    Zephyrus M GM501GS
    Memory
    SK Hynix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) HMA82GS6CJR8N-VK 16 GB DDR4-2666 DDR4 SDRAM
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC294
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AU Optronics B156HAN07.1 [15.6" LCD]
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung MZVKW512HMJP-00000 512 GB, PCI-E 3.0 x4
    Samsung SSD 860 QVO 4TB 4 TB, SATA-III
    PSU
    N/A
    Case
    N/A
    Cooling
    N/A
    Mouse
    Razer DeathAdder Essential
    Keyboard
    PC/AT Enhanced PS2 Keyboard (101/102-Key)
    Internet Speed
    FTTN 100Mbps / 40Mbps
    Browser
    Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    N/A
    Other Info
    USB2.0 HD UVC Webcam
Most problems that I read about were network related in regard to upgrading from 23h2 and it breaking already established connections. My problem was purely tweaks/customizations that got reset. If you’re doing a clean install there shouldn’t be any issues
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
I have no major issues with my 2021 desktop (so far) other than cosmetic issues, but I have a bog-standard install with no third party system add-ons. My daughter has a bog-standard 2021 Dell laptop that needed rescuing because she couldn't restart or shut down, the result of "Task Host Window" preventing shut down after the last update. But that was easily remedied by running SFC and DISM and turning off "Fast Startup".

24H2 is a work in progress that will be a PITA until 25H2 which will likely be even worse.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ABS (Newegg)
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-10400F CPU @ 2.90GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. PRIME B560M-A AC Rev 1.xx
    Memory
    Corsair VENGEANCE® LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 DRAM 3600MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti
    Sound Card
    Realtek Digital Output (Realtek(R) Audio)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viewsonic VS 2725 -2k 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440 100hz
    Hard Drives
    T-FORCE TM8FP800 1TB + a couple SATA SSDs
    PSU
    Gigabyte P650E
    Case
    DeepCool Matrexx 50 mid-tower
    Cooling
    a whole bunch of fans
    Keyboard
    Perixx
    Mouse
    Amazon Basic
    Internet Speed
    Starlink: speed varies
    Browser
    Brave/Chrome (for ATG)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    An assortment of "land fill, obsolete" computers all running Linux Mint 22 (at the moment).
I updated to 24H2 as soon as it was released and have no problems with it. It seems to be the ones that have installed third party tweaks that have problems.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 24H2 26100.3194
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell xps8910
    CPU
    Intel core I7 6700
    Motherboard
    OWPMFG Z170 Skylake
    Memory
    32gbytes DDR4 1066mhz dual
    Graphics Card(s)
    nvidia GT730
    Sound Card
    Nvidia GK 208
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell del40e8
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1080
    Hard Drives
    Intel M.2 512G NVME / Samsung SSD 850 250G / Toshiba 1TB / WD 1TB
    PSU
    450W
    Case
    Mid
    Cooling
    Standard
    Keyboard
    Wired Perixx
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless MX Master
    Internet Speed
    25 Mbits/s-Viasat
    Browser
    Firefox and Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows defender
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 22H2 22621.2428
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus BR1100CKA
    CPU
    Intel Celeron N4500 @ 1.10 GHz
    Motherboard
    Asustek
    Memory
    4.00 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    On board
    Sound Card
    On board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    standard
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    Crucial 500Gb NVME M.2 SSD / 58GB Factory SSD
    Case
    Laptop
    Cooling
    Heatsink
    Mouse
    Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Builtin
    Internet Speed
    25mbs/Viasat
    Browser
    Edge/Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows
I am on 24H2 and I really only have had some silly problems with it. It broke all of my networking and I still can't get it to work right, and I get the odd lock up with no explanation.

Over all I am happy with it, but I plan to do a complete re-install to get rid of all the old AMD crap left over from my upgrade to Intel. I have a sneaking suspicion that some of my problems are due to these remnants.

Other than that, I can't complain.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 24H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self build
    CPU
    Intel i7 13700KF
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z790 UD AC
    Memory
    32 GB Team Group DDR5 - 6000 CL 30
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS TUF GAMING RTX 3070 Ti
    Sound Card
    On board Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung 32 inch curved - one 4K, one 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    4K, 1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Samsung 980 Pro Nvme, 1 TB Samsung 970 EVO Nvme, 2 x Samsung 970 2TB SSD SATA
    PSU
    EVGA 1000Q
    Case
    Rosewill something or other
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15. A whole schwak of Noctua case fans. $$$
    Keyboard
    Logitech G815
    Mouse
    Logitech G502 Hero
    Internet Speed
    700 up, 600 down
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    MalwareBytes
Not having any issue with Version 24H2 with latest Build on 2 Desktops and 4 Notebooks. I don't use third-party tweaking programs as I have to see what my clients see.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro RTM
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 3400
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 11th Gen. 2.40GHz
    Memory
    12GB
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD NVMe M.2
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro RTM x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 5890
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 10th Gen. 2.90GHz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Onboard, no VGA, using a DisplayPort-to-VGA adapter
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Dell
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD NVMe, 4TB Seagate HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender/Microsoft Security
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