why is the beta channel is so slow to receive new builds?


carlfish

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I am just wondering why the beta channel is so slow to receive new builds?

Its been 16 days since the last one, Is that normal for the beta channel?
 

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The BETA Channel has always been quite slow - roughly once a month or so.

I never really saw point of it - only thing is BETA eventually turns into next RTM version but DEV is always ahead of next RTM.
 

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carlfish said:
I am just wondering why the beta channel is so slow to receive new builds?

Its been 16 days since the last one, Is that normal for the beta channel?
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The beta channel, once a product is in production is slow because it is an early release of the next monthly feature production version. They are under tighter control than dev because of this, so there is more process involved. I believe you will see them maybe once a month as an early release of the monthly feature update, sometime more if there were fixes to be tested. You might as well be on the release preview channel.
 

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as @cereberus said. I think it is just an early look at what is going to be released whereas the Dev is all the new things. It's a matter of how stable you want your version as to whether you pick dev or beta. because beta is newer things it gets more updates to correct it. That is my opinion
 

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The-Hive said:
as @cereberus said. I think it is just an early look at what is going to be released whereas the Dev is all the new things. It's a matter of how stable you want your version as to whether you pick dev or beta. because beta is newer things it gets more updates to correct it. That is my opinion
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MS changed the Fast Ring (now Dev Channel) policy some years ago and now release smaller upgrades more frequently.

The upshot of this is the builds are generally a lot more stable than they used to be but it is more annoying doing updates so frequently. Sometimes I skip and update or two if the update has useless rubbish like another five million emoticons or a red icon is now blue etc.
 

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The Beta channel is intended to provide semi stable builds as work progresses, unlike the dev build which can be a lot more buggy. Early in the Beta there simply are not a lot of changes that are at the appropriate quality levels. You will find that as the final release gets closer, the Beta builds tend to become more frequent.
 

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Plus the Holiday slowdown...
 

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@cereberus - Since you mentioned Fast Ring is Dev Channel, does Slow Ring = Beta Channel?
 

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Now all they need is a Canary channel ;)
 

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