Solved Windows 10 or 11 flash drives made with Rufus don’t have hard disk drivers anymore?


sgtaylor5

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Fresh Windows 10 22H2 and Windows 11 22H2 or 23H2 ISOs downloaded directly from Microsoft. I’m using the latest version of Rufus.

Whenever I try installing now with any drive I make, I get an F6 driver window. Very difficult to find the right drivers.

On a HP Pavilion laptop from 2013-2015, Windows 10 22H2 came up with that window. But when I installed using a DVD of W10 2004, it installed perfectly and then I upgraded to 22H2.

I’ve seen it happen with Windows 11 as well.

I’m figuring most of the regulars here are visiting the Windows 11 forum more than they’re visiting the Windows 10 forum.

Completely at a loss here. Thank you for any help.
 
Windows Build/Version
10: 22H2 or 11: 22H2 or 23H2

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I may be misunderstanding what you are asking, but I think it's that when trying to install windows, the install process does not see the drive that you want to install windows on. If that it correct, it's because your system is set up with RAID which does require f6 (Intel Rapid Storage Controller) drivers to be installed at the "load drivers" step of the installation process. You can have these drivers on external media and select "load drivers" pointing the install to the usb drive. Note: If you have Intel Optane Memory module installed you have to use IRST drivers. It's here in step 10 of the Clean Install tutorial.
I don't know if Brink included this step in the Windows 10 tutorial or not.
EDIT: Yes he did. See my next post
A better solution for most people that have no need of RAID or don't use Intel Optane is to enter UEFI bios and change the disk mode to AHCI rather than RAID. Save change and reboot. Start the install process again and your disks will be recognized using Microsoft's default storage controller drivers.

I run all my Intel systems this way. Performance is not affected at all. I ran extensive tests using both IRST driivers and Microsoft's storage controller driver.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2314
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    Dell Optiplex 7080
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    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
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    DELL 0J37VM
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    32 gb
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    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
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    Integrated Realtek
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    Benq 27
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    2560x1440
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    1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme+256gb SKHynix m.2 nvme /External drives 512gb Samsung m.2 sata+1tb Kingston m2.nvme+ 4gb Solidigm nvme
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    500w
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    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
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    i7-4770
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    24 gb
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    500w
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    Dell factory
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    Logitech wireless
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    Logitech wired
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    still not telling
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    Defender+MWB Premium
I checked. and yes Brink did mention installing pre-boot storage controller drivers in step 14 here. It was not elaborated on as much as is in the tutorial for 11.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2314
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    PC/Desktop
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    Dell Optiplex 7080
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    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
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    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
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    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
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    Integrated Realtek
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    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme+256gb SKHynix m.2 nvme /External drives 512gb Samsung m.2 sata+1tb Kingston m2.nvme+ 4gb Solidigm nvme
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    500w
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    MT
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    Dell Premium
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    Logitech wired
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    Logitech wireless
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    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
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    Firefox
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    Defender+MWB Premium
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    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
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    Dell Optiplex 9020
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    i7-4770
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    24 gb
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    Benq 27
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    2560x1440
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    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
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    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
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    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
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    Firefox
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    Defender+MWB Premium
I already know about Optane and RAID needing RST/F6 drivers.

And that’s the crazy thing; there certainly wasn’t a setting on this current machine for RAID. This particular laptop came with a standard one terabyte spinning hard drive.

The other question is why did the 2004 version work and the 22H2 version did not.

On an earlier Dell laptop that came with Windows 7 originally installed I finally had to install Windows 7, which found the hard disk drivers and then it could install Windows 10 just fine.

When I get home, I will fire that machine up again and see which drivers were installed.
 

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  • OS
    macOS Monterey
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Apple
    CPU
    Core i7 2.2 GHz (I7-5650U)
    Motherboard
    MacBook Air 2017 BTO
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    HD Graphics 6000
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900
    Hard Drives
    128 GB SSD (PCIe 2.0 x4)
    Case
    Unibody aluminum
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    Windows 10 21H2
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    PC/Desktop
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    Dell
    CPU
    i3-3240
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    Optiplex 7010
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Integrated Graphics
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    HP EliteDisplay E210
    Screen Resolution
    1600 x 900
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    Kingston A400 240 GB SSD
    Toshiba 2 TB HDD
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    650 W
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    Malwarebytes Premium
Disk.sys, ehstorclass.sys, hodskflt.sys, partmgr.sys.

Intel RST isn’t installed, although i can see entries in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services for iastorAVC and iastorV.
 

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  • OS
    macOS Monterey
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Apple
    CPU
    Core i7 2.2 GHz (I7-5650U)
    Motherboard
    MacBook Air 2017 BTO
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    HD Graphics 6000
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900
    Hard Drives
    128 GB SSD (PCIe 2.0 x4)
    Case
    Unibody aluminum
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 21H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell
    CPU
    i3-3240
    Motherboard
    Optiplex 7010
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Integrated Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP EliteDisplay E210
    Screen Resolution
    1600 x 900
    Hard Drives
    Kingston A400 240 GB SSD
    Toshiba 2 TB HDD
    PSU
    650 W
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    Malwarebytes Premium
Control Panel>Device Manager>expand Storage Controllers
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2314
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme+256gb SKHynix m.2 nvme /External drives 512gb Samsung m.2 sata+1tb Kingston m2.nvme+ 4gb Solidigm nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
Fresh Windows 10 22H2 and Windows 11 22H2 or 23H2 ISOs downloaded directly from Microsoft. I’m using the latest version of Rufus.

Whenever I try installing now with any drive I make, I get an F6 driver window. Very difficult to find the right drivers.

On a HP Pavilion laptop from 2013-2015, Windows 10 22H2 came up with that window. But when I installed using a DVD of W10 2004, it installed perfectly and then I upgraded to 22H2.

I’ve seen it happen with Windows 11 as well.

I’m figuring most of the regulars here are visiting the Windows 11 forum more than they’re visiting the Windows 10 forum.

Completely at a loss here. Thank you for any help.
An upgrade already has the necessary drivers from the earlier Windows version. A clean installation needs the drivers, unless you switch from RAID to AHCI as suggested.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (build 22631.4249) test laptop, Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894) main PC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
I finally figured out what the problem is; I had to make a new flash drive. The weird thing is it took four or five tries before I finally made a good one today.

Thank you all.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    macOS Monterey
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Apple
    CPU
    Core i7 2.2 GHz (I7-5650U)
    Motherboard
    MacBook Air 2017 BTO
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    HD Graphics 6000
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900
    Hard Drives
    128 GB SSD (PCIe 2.0 x4)
    Case
    Unibody aluminum
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 21H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell
    CPU
    i3-3240
    Motherboard
    Optiplex 7010
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Integrated Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP EliteDisplay E210
    Screen Resolution
    1600 x 900
    Hard Drives
    Kingston A400 240 GB SSD
    Toshiba 2 TB HDD
    PSU
    650 W
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes Premium

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