Insider Windows 11 Insider Canary build 26200.5001 (24H2) - April 19

BRAD44 · Apr 20, 2024

hi i have just downloaded this uup dump and had this error message in the middle and was wondering if it is safe to install the iso it made
regards Brad

Linkpa · Apr 20, 2024

Update done, but the circle that rotates, when the computer starts, below the Windows logo (or the motherboard brand logo) has disappeared!

Winuser · Apr 20, 2024

fg2001gf11F said:
Any problem updating apps from MS Store after updating the Build with ISO?

It seems fixed here after updating with ISO the MS Store updates worked fine.

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On both of my computers the Feedback Hub and the VP9 Video extensions won't update. The other apps updated Ok.

Winuser · Apr 20, 2024

Winuser said:
On both of my computers the Feedback Hub and the VP9 Video extensions won't update. The other apps updated Ok.

I was going to uninstall the Feedback Hub and The VP9 extensions with Revo so I could try reinstalling them. Revo has them listed as being installed yesterday. I updated to build 26200.5001 last night so it appears that they may be updated. The version I have of the Feedback Hub is 1.2401.20253.0 and the version of the VP9 Video Extensions is 1.1.451.0. ~~I would be very grateful if someone would check to see if these are the newest versions or not.~~ I went ahead and uninstalled them with Revo and reinstalled them from the MS Store. They now show as being modified a minute ago.

gaffar · Apr 20, 2024

Do Dev and Canary Builds freeze your computer or do you people install it on virtual machines?

Winuser · Apr 20, 2024

cereberus said:
Yay joy - more widget updatessss Zzzzzzzz.

I don't know about anyone else but I'm all excited about the leaf icon returning.

Winuser · Apr 20, 2024

gaffar said:
Do Dev and Canary Builds freeze your computer or do you people install it on virtual machines?

I'm not using any virtual machines on my two desktops and I don't have any freezing problems.

magilla · Apr 20, 2024

Winuser said:
I'm not using any virtual machines on my two desktops and I don't have any freezing problems.

Yes, I don’t use any modifying explorer software either and have no issues with canary.

fg2001gf11F · Apr 20, 2024

Winuser said:
I was going to uninstall the Feedback Hub and The VP9 extensions with Revo so I could try reinstalling them. Revo has them listed as being installed yesterday. I updated to build 26200.5001 last night so it appears that they may be updated. The version I have of the Feedback Hub is 1.2401.20253.0 and the version of the VP9 Video Extensions is 1.1.451.0. ~~I would be very grateful if someone would check to see if these are the newest versions or not.~~ I went ahead and uninstalled them with Revo and reinstalled them from the MS Store. They now show as being modified a minute ago.

These are mine, but they were updated weeks ago, not with latest build.

FBH

VP9

fg2001gf11F · Apr 20, 2024

Linkpa said:
Update done, but the circle that rotates, when the computer starts, below the Windows logo (or the motherboard brand logo) has disappeared!

I see the same problem on my Dell XPS 8940 after updating to 26200.5001.
Nvidia Driver 552.22 if that matters.

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Same behavior on a mini PC GMKtec K3 Pro with Intel Graphics display adapter..

Winuser · Apr 20, 2024

fg2001gf11F said:
These are mine, but they were updated weeks ago, not with latest build.

FBH
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VP9
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Reinstalling the two apps seems to have stopped the Store app from continually trying to update them.

Bree · Apr 20, 2024

Linkpa said:
the circle that rotates, when the computer starts, below the Windows logo (or the motherboard brand logo) has disappeared!

fg2001gf11F said:
I see the same problem on my Dell XPS 8940 after updating to 26200.5001.

So do I on my Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1....

fg2001gf11F said:
Nvidia Driver 552.22 if that matters.

Probably not.....

In addition, I'm still seeing the boot menu shrunk to the left half of the screen and bright pink when Canary is the default OS.

fg2001gf11F · Apr 20, 2024

Bree said:
So do I on my Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1....

Probably not.....

In addition, I'm still seeing the boot menu shrunk to the left half of the screen and bright pink when Canary is the default OS.

Same missing spinning circle on a mini GMKtec K3 Pro with Intel driver 32.0.101.5439 that was installed by W.U. on Canary, not available from Intel yet.

Looks like a new bug added with this build, affecting different machines with different configurations.

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I have not seen the shrunk menu with any of the latest Builds.
You may have something left over from some older build, I got that problem on one machine long time ago and I solved it by restoring a good backup and then updating again, I have not seen that problem anymore.

martyfelker · Apr 21, 2024

jimbo45 said:
Thanks for the advice to switch from DEV to Canary -- before doing this update. I'll keep both - but installing from new is a pain. I'll just replicate also existing DEV to a new system and then have both DEV and CANARY. With big SSD's (Nveme's) having a load of windows installs on physical vhdx files just works perfectly.

Note - replicating existing systems doesn't require new activations or licenses.

Note also those vhdx files can also be used in VM's -- simply copy the vhdx to the virtual disk in the vm and reinstall the bootloader. You'll probably end up with the Microsoft basic video adapter on the VM - but install on the GUEST the VM's "vmware tools, vbox additions, or on linux hosts using KVM/WEMU the windows virtual tools --virtio iso from the fedora site and install the redhat qxl video driver).

A VM though even copied from an existing physical system might (but sometimes not if you are lucky) be regarded as new hardware so will want activation or a new license. Sometimes though replicating from a physical install with the physical drivers still installed can at times confuse the "new hardware detection" mechanism so you could be lucky. If that's the case then do your updates in the vm - test and if OK copy back to a physical machine. You've got the original drivers so no probs there either.

cheers
jimbo

I want advice on switching from DEV to CANARY because of Virtual Machine VM consideration since Microsoft switched me, without notice, from CANARY to DEV, and only because I switched back on my new SSD, it was not in time for my VMware VM. No matter I am debaing at the mmemtn whether to overwrite Windows with either Ubuntu 24.04 LTS or Debian 12 Testing both of which I have up in QEMU/KVM on Fedora Rawhide (importable to Garuda). It's a pleasant internal debate and I will probably decide next build.

cereberus · Apr 21, 2024

jimbo45 said:
Thanks for the advice to switch from DEV to Canary -- before doing this update. I'll keep both - but installing from new is a pain. I'll just replicate also existing DEV to a new system and then have both DEV and CANARY. With big SSD's (Nveme's) having a load of windows installs on physical vhdx files just works perfectly.

Note - replicating existing systems doesn't require new activations or licenses.

Note also those vhdx files can also be used in VM's -- simply copy the vhdx to the virtual disk in the vm and reinstall the bootloader. You'll probably end up with the Microsoft basic video adapter on the VM - but install on the GUEST the VM's "vmware tools, vbox additions, or on linux hosts using KVM/WEMU the windows virtual tools --virtio iso from the fedora site and install the redhat qxl video driver).

A VM though even copied from an existing physical system might (but sometimes not if you are lucky) be regarded as new hardware so will want activation or a new license. Sometimes though replicating from a physical install with the physical drivers still installed can at times confuse the "new hardware detection" mechanism so you could be lucky. If that's the case then do your updates in the vm - test and if OK copy back to a physical machine. You've got the original drivers so no probs there either.

cheers
jimbo

Using a native boot vhd

martyfelker said:
I want advice on switching from DEV to CANARY because of Virtual Machine VM consideration since Microsoft switched me, without notice, from CANARY to DEV, and only because I switched back on my new SSD, it was not in time for my VMware VM. No matter I am debaing at the mmemtn whether to overwrite Windows with either Ubuntu 24.04 LTS or Debian 12 Testing both of which I have up in QEMU/KVM on Fedora Rawhide (importable to Garuda). It's a pleasant internal debate and I will probably decide next build.

You will not be switched from Dev to Canary. That only happened when Canary was first introduced So it is up to you which you select.

Bear in mind if you move to Canary, you cannot change again, once Canary diverges until Dev possibly reconverges im the future

Regarding Linux, despite the "benefits" spread by Linux users, the basic fact is that the range of main stream applications is much more limited.

People get so swept up in the Linux vs Windows debates, they forget the most fundamental point i.e. the purpose of an OS is to run apps.

Each user has to judge which OS meets their apps requirements. For some Linux is adequate but for many, it is certainly not.

martyfelker · Apr 21, 2024

cereberus said:
Using a native boot vhd
You will not be switched from Dev to Canary. That only happened when Canary was first introduced So it is up to you which you select.

Bear in mind if you move to Canary, you cannot change again, once Canary diverges until Dev possibly reconverges im the future

Regarding Linux, despite the "benefits" spread by Linux users, the basic fact is that the range of main stream applications is much more limited.

People get so swept up in the Linux vs Windows debates, they forget the most fundamental point i.e. the purpose of an OS is to run apps.

Each user has to judge which OS meets their apps requirements. For some Linux is adequate but for many, it is certainly not.

I understand that giving up a few shareware programs I have bought (actually thousands of dollars) will be difficult, if not impossible, to run under, say, Wine; almost everything I personally need is available on Linux. I am not a gamer but have bought a gaming motherboard (A Gigabyte Ultra Durable) is working for me. I have used Hyper-V and WSL and they are fine but for reasons are not "my cup of tea". Ubuntu 24.04 LTS looks quite good as does Debian Trixis. When I get a Manjaro 2024 image (just found out how I caN get one on Garida Linux (if you lilke performance you should check it out in a VM!). Manjaro and Garuda are Arch based and have all the programs you could ever want through AUR. Fedora is also fine - I am running Rawhide ...

martyfelker · Apr 21, 2024

fg2001gf11F said:
I see the same problem on my Dell XPS 8940 after updating to 26200.5001.
Nvidia Driver 552.22 if that matters.

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Same behavior on a mini PC GMKtec K3 Pro with Intel Graphics display adapter..

Looks like it is not communicating with the BIOS but I'm far f rom a Windows Canary expert.

The_IT_Unicorn · Apr 21, 2024

If i expand the copilot window to far, the right hand pane is unresponsive. Also, the copilot hover feature still does not work for me, it didn't work in 26100 either, did they disable this in 24H2? I've tried copying text and/or images to the clipboard, when I hover over copilot, nothing happens. Anyone else having these issues?

Brink · Apr 21, 2024

The Passkey settings page will be getting an Advanced options page soon, which will let you manage passkey sync settings and credential manager settings. (disabled by default, build 26200.)

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