24H2 updates are not faster as MS promised?


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I remember Microsoft promising that installing 24H2 will lead to faster cumulative updating so I updated my two devices to 24H2 on 15th December 2024. Since then there have been three Patch Tuesday updates and am not seeing faster updates. Last night one device took 45 minutes and the other device took 55 minutes. I know that some of that time my devices were in a queue waiting for the download to begin but the same applied when I updated prior to 24H2. In the end 24H2 is not faster to install updates.
Is it my imagination or do others find the same?

24H2 Faster update promise.webp
 

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    Windows 11 Pro
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    PC/Desktop
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    HP EliteDesk 705 G5
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    AMD Ryzen 5 Pro 3400GE
    Memory
    8GB DDR4 SDRAM
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    Integrated AMD Radeon Vega 11
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    256 GB PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD
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    Windows 11 Home
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    Laptop
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    DELL Inspiron 15-3576
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    Intel Core i5-8250U
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    8 GB DDR4 - 2400 SODIMM
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    Intel UHD Graphics 620
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    256GB SK Hynix SC311 SATA SSD
Is it my imagination or do others find the same?


This Patch Tuesday was pretty fast for me. On both Win 10 and Win 11.
They finished in about 6-7 minutes each, including restart, etc.

But... I usually do the end of the month Preview Updates, too.
I don't know if that helps or not?
 

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  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦26100.3476 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦24H2 ♦♦♦non-Insider
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    PC/Desktop
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    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
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    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
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    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 5002)
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    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
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    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
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    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
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    Dell U3011 30"
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    2560 x 1600
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    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
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    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
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    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
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    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
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    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
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    Logitech Optical M-100
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    300/300
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    Firefox (latest)
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    Bitdefender Internet Security
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    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
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    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
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    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
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    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
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    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
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    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
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    Onboard
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    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
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    up to 2048 x 1536
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    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
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    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
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    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
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    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
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    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
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    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
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    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 15 years?
I didn't time them but both Feb and March cumulative seemed PDQ for me.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.3194
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme+256gb SKHynix m.2 nvme /External drives 512gb Samsung m.2 sata+1tb Kingston m2.nvme+ 4gb Solidigm nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
For me, yesterday's KB5053602 took about 8 minutes. 🤷‍♂️
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
Is it my imagination or do others find the same?
For me the cumulative update was really quite quick. The desktop took about 7-8 minutes, but the laptop (ARM based windows) was really quick at about 4-5 minutes. Although there was no .net update on the laptop. I assume this is because most of the quality changes will be rolled out gradually later.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home built
    CPU
    Ryzen 3900x
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Aorus Master x570 rel 1.0
    Memory
    32GB (2x16) @ 3600 MHz Corsair Vengeance LPX
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte Windforce RTX 2080
    Sound Card
    No separate sound card.
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U2718Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    1TB WD-Black SN850; 1TB Samsung Sata 850 Evo; 4 TB WD Blue Sata SA510 2.5''; 4TB Samsung Sata SSD 870 EVO 2.5".
    PSU
    Be Quiet Dark Power Pro 11 750W
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    Lian Li PC-8FIB
    Cooling
    CPU: Noctua NH-U12A; Case: BeQuiet + Lian Li fans.
    Keyboard
    Steelseries Apex 7 brown keys.
    Mouse
    Logitech (wired) G403
    Internet Speed
    940 Mb/s down; 105 Mb/s up
    Browser
    Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Eset Internet Security
    Other Info
    Pioneer blu-ray optical drive.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home (ARM version) (latest update)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Samsung Galaxy Book4 Edge 14" Copilot+ PC
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    Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite X1E-80-100
    Memory
    16 GB LPDDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    Qualcomm Adreno
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Touch screen 14" AMOLED monitor
    Screen Resolution
    2880x1800
    Hard Drives
    512 GB eUFS
    Internet Speed
    840 Mb/s (Wifi)
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Eset Internet Security
    Other Info
    NPU Qualcomm Hexagon
It seems to be just my devices then?
I wonder if it is my ISP's servers unable to cope with Patch Tuesday demand?
After clicking on 'Check for updates' and it finding the updates the downloading does not begin immediately. It stays at 0% for maybe 5 minutes before starting downloading and then it is slow to download the updates. It probably takes 15 minutes to get from 0% to 100% downloaded and it stays at 100% for another minute before 'Installing' begins. My broadband download speed is around 60 Mbps.
The installing part (not ISP related) takes another 20 minutes before the 'Restart now' prompt shows. The black-screen installing updates part takes another 5 minutes before the sign-in screen shows.

I have run the tuneup.bat file but it found no integrity violations or component store corruption and chkdsk found no problems.
I have Bitdefender Total Security installed but I can't see this interfering with Windows updates.

Any ideas on what might be affecting windows update on my two devices?

Win Version.webp
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP EliteDesk 705 G5
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 Pro 3400GE
    Memory
    8GB DDR4 SDRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated AMD Radeon Vega 11
    Hard Drives
    256 GB PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DELL Inspiron 15-3576
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8250U
    Memory
    8 GB DDR4 - 2400 SODIMM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 620
    Hard Drives
    256GB SK Hynix SC311 SATA SSD
I think the 'install part' probably also includes communication between your device and the remote server. I'd say your download speed is the main culprit. I have 900Mb/s download speed - so 15x faster.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home built
    CPU
    Ryzen 3900x
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Aorus Master x570 rel 1.0
    Memory
    32GB (2x16) @ 3600 MHz Corsair Vengeance LPX
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte Windforce RTX 2080
    Sound Card
    No separate sound card.
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U2718Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    1TB WD-Black SN850; 1TB Samsung Sata 850 Evo; 4 TB WD Blue Sata SA510 2.5''; 4TB Samsung Sata SSD 870 EVO 2.5".
    PSU
    Be Quiet Dark Power Pro 11 750W
    Case
    Lian Li PC-8FIB
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    CPU: Noctua NH-U12A; Case: BeQuiet + Lian Li fans.
    Keyboard
    Steelseries Apex 7 brown keys.
    Mouse
    Logitech (wired) G403
    Internet Speed
    940 Mb/s down; 105 Mb/s up
    Browser
    Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Eset Internet Security
    Other Info
    Pioneer blu-ray optical drive.
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    Windows 11 Home (ARM version) (latest update)
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Samsung Galaxy Book4 Edge 14" Copilot+ PC
    CPU
    Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite X1E-80-100
    Memory
    16 GB LPDDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    Qualcomm Adreno
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Touch screen 14" AMOLED monitor
    Screen Resolution
    2880x1800
    Hard Drives
    512 GB eUFS
    Internet Speed
    840 Mb/s (Wifi)
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Eset Internet Security
    Other Info
    NPU Qualcomm Hexagon
These updates only take a long time if you sit and watch them. Yesterday's update was released early for some reason, so the first notification I had of this was when I got a pop-up on my laptop saying it was ready to reboot. All the processing getting ready for the reboot takes place in the background so usually I leave WU to do that and get on with something else.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Home 24H2 RP
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self-build
    CPU
    Intel I3-10100
    Motherboard
    MSI H410M-PRO
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GT 1030
    Sound Card
    Motherboard default
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Philips 27 inch
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung EVO 970 NVMe SSD 256 Gb
    Samsung QVO 870 SATA SSD 2 Tb
    PSU
    ATX 450W
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless
    Internet Speed
    930 Mb down / 120 Mb up
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Microsoft Office 2021 Plus
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    Windows 11 Home
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self-build
    CPU
    Intel i3-8100
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z370 D3
    Memory
    16 Gb
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia GT 720
    Sound Card
    Motherboard default
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Philips 27-inch
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 960 NVMe SSD 256 Gb
    Seagate 2 Tb HDD
    PSU
    ATX 450W
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless
    Keyboard
    Microsoft
    Internet Speed
    930 Mb down / 120 Mb up
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
I think the 'install part' probably also includes communication between your device and the remote server.
I thought the 'Install' part was all done locally on the disk (there is plenty of disk space available) with no further comms happening after the download was complete? Can any one clarify this please?

These updates only take a long time if you sit and watch them
That is subjective. I am being objective by comparing time taken to complete updates on my devices with those mentioned in other posts. 45 to 55 minutes compared to 8 minutes is a massive difference. Ceasing to watch the update process does not speed it up. It just ignores the issue.

I am hoping that someone may offer a fix.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP EliteDesk 705 G5
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 Pro 3400GE
    Memory
    8GB DDR4 SDRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated AMD Radeon Vega 11
    Hard Drives
    256 GB PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DELL Inspiron 15-3576
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8250U
    Memory
    8 GB DDR4 - 2400 SODIMM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 620
    Hard Drives
    256GB SK Hynix SC311 SATA SSD
I am hoping that someone may offer a fix.
Have you considered doing a clean install of 24H2 after deleting ALL partitions on the boot drive? This will get rid of any 'crud' on your device(s).
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 (Build 26100.3476)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Precision 3660 Tower Workstation
    CPU
    12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-12900 5.10 GHz
    Motherboard
    64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
    Memory
    32.00 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 770
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
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    Dell P2714H Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1 x 512GB NVME PC801 NVMe SK hynix - BOOT
    1 x 1TB Seagate ST1000LM049-2GH172 Internal HDD
    1 x 1TB Seagate STGX4000400 External HDD
    1 x 2TB Seagate STGX4000400 External HDD
    1 x 4TB Seagate STGX4000400 External HDD
    PSU
    300 Watts
    Cooling
    Air
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Wired Keyboard 600
    Mouse
    Microsoft USB Basic Optical Mouse v2.0
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender + Malwarebytes Premium
    Other Info
    BaseBoard Manufacturer Dell Inc.
    BaseBoard Product 0J1CP3
    BaseBoard Version A01
Mine took a fair while to complete download but installation was done in under 10 minutes. I'm on a 50MB internet fed.
 

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  • OS
    WIN 11 Pro 24H2 - 26100.3323
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Build
    CPU
    Intel XEON E5-2699 v3
    Motherboard
    ASUS X99-A
    Memory
    64GB Teamgroup UD4-3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ACER X34 Predator
    Screen Resolution
    3440 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    Crucial CT1000P 3P SSD8 1TB
    Crucial CT1000 BX500 SSD 1TB
    PSU
    GameMax Pro
    Case
    Fractal Design
    Cooling
    Corsair H110iGT + 6 140mm Fans
    Keyboard
    Corsair K4
    Mouse
    G-Skill G502
    Internet Speed
    50MBs
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    OEM
There is nothing to fix. You have modest consumer spec PC and Laptop.

That could be better with 16 GB of RAM in both of them and also upgrade the SSD to 1 TB.
That would help a bit, not a lot though, being realistic.

"I am being objective by comparing time taken to complete updates on my devices with those mentioned in other posts. 45 to 55 minutes compared to 8 minutes is a massive difference."

No point in comparing consumer Laptops/PCs, modest Internet speeds, with professional people buying new £10,000 PC hardware every year with Internet speeds of 10,000 Mbps.

I never bother monitoring most update events. I don't care how long a Cumulative update download lasts, 10 sec, 1 min or 1 week who cares.
There is the March cumulative update going on whilst writing this. I will do any Restart required at my leisure, after the notification orange dot and arrows.

These supposedly accurate statements of taking 5-10 min without any mention of what is considered start and end points, hardware etc.
The number may as well be just made up, it is certainly not any kind of measurement.

e.g. The endpoint is not the Sign-in screen after the Restart.
Particularly during .NET Framework and Cumulative updates the installation of updates continues on for quite a while after the Restart and Sign-in. There are settings for some things in Windows updates > Advanced options.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11

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