Solved Accessing W11 from W7

Bree · Aug 14, 2023

riffwraith said:
So, I guess I should try to set the W7 network to private? Ok... I have to see how to do that.

RemoteApp seems relevant here, it's still in W11.

Since the debut of RemoteApp in Windows Server 2008, Windows users have been able to enjoy remote applications with the same look and feel as local applications. RemoteApp and Desktop Connections is a new feature in Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 that builds on this by bringing RemoteApp programs to the Start menu, giving them the same launch experience as local applications.

Introducing RemoteApp and Desktop Connections | Microsoft Community Hub

First published on CloudBlogs on Jun, 08 2009 Since the debut of RemoteApp in Windows Server 2008, Windows users have been able to enjoy remote applications...

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Bree · Aug 14, 2023

riffwraith said:
So, I guess I should try to set the W7 network to private? Ok... I have to see how to do that.

W7 doesn't call it 'Private', you set it to Home (or Work) either of which are the same as what W10/11 calls a Private network.

Network Location - Set as Home, Work, or Public Network

How to Set the Network Location Type in Windows 7

www.sevenforums.com

riffwraith · Aug 14, 2023

Bree said:
W7 doesn't call it 'Private', you set it to Home (or Work) either of which are the same as what W10/11 calls a Private network.

Aha! TY

riffwraith · Aug 16, 2023

So, I decided to send a support email to the dev, and they tell me that the networking protocols are different. So this is apparently why I can not get it to work.

Scannerman · Aug 16, 2023

riffwraith said:
So, I guess I should try to set the W7 network to private? Ok... I have to see how to do that.

When you set the network to private make sure you password protect it. It will give you the opportunity to make one in the process. Write it down as it will be the password for all your connected devices. You get to networking by clicking on networking. The rest is self explanatory.

Just follow the steps.

jimbo45 · Aug 17, 2023

riffwraith said:
Hi

I am able to share files between my W11 and W7 computers. They are both plugged into the same Linksys router via Cat5. However, there is an application that I am unable to connect to, from W7 to W11.

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See how W11 says "private network"? Even tho I am able to share, I am wondering if this "public" v. "private" thing could be an issue. Maybe I am barking up the wrong tree, but should I try changing that setting in W11? If so, how?

Thanks in advance.

Hi there

I'm absolutely no specialist but I get 100% fazed by some of the convoluted solutions given by so called professionals (not wanting to be racist but most of that problem seems to come from India / vietnam and similar countries) are just mind numbingly inappropriate for typical "home mom and pop domestic situations". And those people get paid shedloads of money too. Perhaps it's all "job preservation at any cost and --screw the customer".

Just enable SMB1, allow "remote connections to this computer" uncheck the lower box reboot and you should be in business. This still works even for old XP systems connecting to NAS devices with TB of disk storage (in XP days 20 MB never mind GB was quite a bit of disk storage !!).

People these days seem to forget the K.I.S.S principle --Keep it Short and Simple. Well I suppose if a lawyer from a local council earns 300 EUR for sending me a letter that I'm 59 secs late with paying a local tax of just 67 EUR !!! .... well 'nuf said (Even here in Iceland we have some hideous politicians too !! that almost make Donald Trump seem like Madame Theresa - atlhough of course the amounts of money are totally different - but the principle is just the same !!).

cheers
jimbo

riffwraith · Aug 18, 2023

jimbo45 said:
Hi there

I'm absolutely no specialist but I get 100% fazed by some of the convoluted solutions given by so called professionals (not wanting to be racist but most of that problem seems to come from India / vietnam and similar countries) are just mind numbingly inappropriate for typical "home mom and pop domestic situations". And those people get paid shedloads of money too. Perhaps it's all "job preservation at any cost and --screw the customer".

Just enable SMB1, allow "remote connections to this computer" uncheck the lower box reboot and you should be in business. This still works even for old XP systems connecting to NAS devices with TB of disk storage (in XP days 20 MB never mind GB was quite a bit of disk storage !!).

People these days seem to forget the K.I.S.S principle --Keep it Short and Simple. Well I suppose if a lawyer from a local council earns 300 EUR for sending me a letter that I'm 59 secs late with paying a local tax of just 67 EUR !!! .... well 'nuf said (Even here in Iceland we have some hideous politicians too !! that almost make Donald Trump seem like Madame Theresa - atlhough of course the amounts of money are totally different - but the principle is just the same !!).

cheers
jimbo

Thank you.

allow "remote connections to this computer" - already done.

I am doing some research on this 'enable SMB1', but cant get my head around what I see. Is that something over and above allowing remote connections from system prop?

Flashorn · Aug 18, 2023

riffwraith said:
I am doing some research on this 'enable SMB1', but cant get my head around what I see. Is that something over and above allowing remote connections from system prop?

Read this pls:

CAYIN Tech | Connect a SMBv1Device via Windows 10 System

It's the same in W11, just checked.

Bree · Aug 18, 2023

riffwraith said:
I am doing some research on this 'enable SMB1', but cant get my head around what I see. Is that something over and above allowing remote connections from system prop?

Server Message Block (SMB) is a protocol for computers to share over the network. SMB 1.0 is the oldest version, and has some security issues. You should only enable it if you have no other choice, such as needing to connect to some older NAS devices, or to a WinXP PC.

Server Message Block - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

A default install of Windows 10/11 supports SMB2 and SMB3, with a preference for using the highest available version. It will however connect using SMB2 to a Windows 7 machine. SMB1 is available, but not enabled by default. Win7 only supports up to SMB 2.1. SMB 3.0 came in with Win8, 3.02 in Win8.1 and 3.1.1 in Win10.

Here my network as seen from a Windows 11 PC, where the Toshiba 2TB share is a usb HDD on my router (SMB 1.5), TOSH-C650D is a Win7 PC (SMB 2.1) and the two W10 and W11 PCs are connected to using SMB 3.1.1.

jimbo45 · Aug 19, 2023

Hi there.

while there is of course some security issues over SMB1 and ideally you shouldn't use it I doubt if on a HOME LAN if this really is of overriding concern when you just want to share a few files between computers or even devices (firestick / TV etc). Windows defender is pretty good these days at intercepting malware and other nasties. I suspect if SMB1 was totally redundant W11 or perhaps the next version of Windows won't even have the possibility of enabling it.

Bree · Aug 19, 2023

jimbo45 said:
while there is of course some security issues over SMB1 and ideally you shouldn't use it I doubt if on a HOME LAN if this really is of overriding concern when you just want to share a few files.....

I agree, and as you can see from my screenshot above I do have SMB1 enabled. In my case it's the only way to connect to a network drive being shared out by plugging it into my router.

There are two parts to SMB1 that could be enabled, the Client and the Server. You only need to enable the Client to be able to connect to a device that only has SMB1. I suspect that it's enabling the Server that is more of a security risk.

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