Solved Alternative to CCleaner


My view on all these is that if a program requires special 3rd party apps to install / uninstall itself then you shouldn't have that application on your computer.
Unfortunately sometimes they come preinstalled on your PC. (I'm thinking of SupportAssist from Dell).
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home built
    CPU
    Ryzen 3900x
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Aorus Master x570 rel 1.0
    Memory
    32GB (2x16) @ 3600 MHz Corsair Vengeance LPX
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte Windforce RTX 2080
    Sound Card
    No separate sound card.
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U2718Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    1TB WD-Black SN850; 1TB Samsung Sata 850 Evo; 4 TB WD Blue Sata SA510 2.5''; 4TB Samsung Sata SSD 870 EVO 2.5".
    PSU
    Be Quiet Dark Power Pro 11 750W
    Case
    Lian Li PC-8FIB
    Cooling
    CPU: Noctua NH-U12A; Case: BeQuiet + Lian Li fans.
    Keyboard
    Steelseries Apex 7 brown keys.
    Mouse
    Logitech (wired) G403
    Internet Speed
    940 Mb/s down; 105 Mb/s up
    Browser
    Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Eset Internet Security
    Other Info
    Pioneer blu-ray optical drive.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home (ARM version) (latest update)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Samsung Galaxy Book4 Edge 14" Copilot+ PC
    CPU
    Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite X1E-80-100
    Memory
    16 GB LPDDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    Qualcomm Adreno
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Touch screen 14" AMOLED monitor
    Screen Resolution
    2880x1800
    Hard Drives
    512 GB eUFS
    Internet Speed
    840 Mb/s (Wifi)
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Eset Internet Security
    Other Info
    NPU Qualcomm Hexagon
Driver update tools are often confused by version numbers. Some version numbers do not follow a consistent standard and the update programs can sometimes install an unsuitable driver. I have had my PCs made unusable this way. I now rely solely on Windows update and the website for my make/model of computer.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2894
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    CPU
    Pentium Silver N6000 1.10GHz
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD
    Cooling
    fanless
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere
    Other Info
    System 3

    ASUS T100TA Transformer
    Processor Intel Atom Z3740 @ 1.33GHz
    Installed RAM 2.00 GB (1.89 GB usable)
    System type 32-bit operating system, x64-based processor

    Edition Windows 10 Home
    Version 22H2 build 19045.3570
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
Unfortunately sometimes they come preinstalled on your PC. (I'm thinking of SupportAssist from Dell).
You can get rid of a lot of bloatware
just re-install windows.Won't get rid of all of it but most.

Cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
You can get rid of a lot of bloatware
just re-install windows.Won't get rid of all of it but most.

Cheers
jimbo
I used (and mostly liked SupportAssist) until I discovered it was causing keyboard issues on my laptop. (Some keys not working at all, others repeating themselves seven or eight times with one press). Removing it with windows uninstaller did not fix the issue, but Ccleaner found dozens of registry entries after the uninstall, and successfully removed them all. The keyboard now works perfectly.
So to get back on thread, I will stick with Ccleaner. I like it for that kind of cleaning up after an uninstall, and also for selectively keeping some cookies, while removing others.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home built
    CPU
    Ryzen 3900x
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Aorus Master x570 rel 1.0
    Memory
    32GB (2x16) @ 3600 MHz Corsair Vengeance LPX
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte Windforce RTX 2080
    Sound Card
    No separate sound card.
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U2718Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    1TB WD-Black SN850; 1TB Samsung Sata 850 Evo; 4 TB WD Blue Sata SA510 2.5''; 4TB Samsung Sata SSD 870 EVO 2.5".
    PSU
    Be Quiet Dark Power Pro 11 750W
    Case
    Lian Li PC-8FIB
    Cooling
    CPU: Noctua NH-U12A; Case: BeQuiet + Lian Li fans.
    Keyboard
    Steelseries Apex 7 brown keys.
    Mouse
    Logitech (wired) G403
    Internet Speed
    940 Mb/s down; 105 Mb/s up
    Browser
    Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Eset Internet Security
    Other Info
    Pioneer blu-ray optical drive.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home (ARM version) (latest update)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Samsung Galaxy Book4 Edge 14" Copilot+ PC
    CPU
    Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite X1E-80-100
    Memory
    16 GB LPDDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    Qualcomm Adreno
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Touch screen 14" AMOLED monitor
    Screen Resolution
    2880x1800
    Hard Drives
    512 GB eUFS
    Internet Speed
    840 Mb/s (Wifi)
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Eset Internet Security
    Other Info
    NPU Qualcomm Hexagon
I've been using MS PC Manager with good results.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 11 64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo
    CPU
    i9 14900
    Memory
    64 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce RTX 4090 16GB / Intel 770
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3200 x 2000
    Screen Resolution
    3200 x 2000
    Hard Drives
    Kioxia 1TB
    Case
    Laptop
    Keyboard
    USB
    Mouse
    bluetooth
    Internet Speed
    600 MBS
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    MS
I've been using MS PC Manager with good results.
Funnily enough -- even though I'm a primary Linux user -- I've found very few problems by just using "Windows" as supplied by Ms.-Especially the latest versions -- although what exactly the difference is now between all the various builds - insider or not just escapes me. The functionality seems more or less identical -- at least for probably what a whole slew - probably 99.999% of domestic users use. I can't believe the endless discussion on whether windowed screens should have rounded corners or whether file explorer has tabbed browsing bars etc etc.

If that's the only problem with the OS then Ms has done a hugely better job than most people give it credit for.

On these insider builds surely time to get a bit more adventurous and allow a lot more of the GUI customisation -- even though the chances are many more will break it. Perhaps Windows should get off its high horse and take a look at one of the far better things in Linux where the actual GUI is separated from the video server (used to be called the X-Server) so users could install GUI's of their choice without breaking the OS - e.g MINT, LXDE, KDE, GNOME, CINNAMON etc etc.

Cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
I have used CCleaner for more than 7 years and found it very helpful in keeping my system "clean". I agree with many opinions that over the years MS has done a fair job in keeping the Windows OS "optimized", or at least allowing certain 'tools" within the baseline install to do most of what CCleaner does. Until recently I always used the free version which has somewhat limited functionality, noteably the "Health Check", "Custom Clean", and the "Registry Cleaner". About a year ago I bought a user license which opens up the capabilities to include the "Performance Optimizer" and the "Driver Updater". Until I upgraded I knew of no way to put programs to "Sleep" (I'm still not sure of what that means) or to efficiently update drivers. Prior to the upgrade updating drivers was a huge pain, I'd have to go to multiple websites and download drivers (when I could find them), and using the driver "updater" within the Windows device manager was useless. In addition MS distributes some driver updates up to a year late and sometimes doesn't even have updates to my hardware. (Having said that, CCleaner doesn't always have the necessary HW driver updates either.) The upgraded driver updater to me is worth the money. In one click it painlessly updates most of my drivers with the latest versions, and I've never had a problem with it.

I recently did a check comparing MS DiskCleanup and CCleaner to see what the differences were. First I ran DiskCleanup to see what it could find that could be deleted. It found 34.4 MB worth of files to delete. Then I ran CCleaner and it found 48 "Trackers" and 186.6MB of "Junk" Files in the "Health Check", and 96.3MB of "Files to be Removed" in the "Custom Clean". The "Registry Cleaner" found many unused file extensions and numerous ActiveX "Issues". Assuming there are no duplications between "functions" in CCleaner (and there may be), that's a total of ~283MB of unneeded space taken up on my system, not to mention the potential performance effects. I then executed DiskCleanup which removed all but 6.6MB of files. It left 3.88MB of Temp files and 132KB of Shader Cache files. (Subsequent re-runs of DiskCleanup did not remove these files). I then executed CCleaner to see what DiskCleaner didn't delete. CCleaner found 19 "Trackers" and 185.6MB of "Junk" to remove in the "Health Check" and 90.8MB of "Files to be removed". Clearly CCleaner found many things DiskCleanup didn't. In addition I don't think MS does nything to keep the Registery Clean of unecessary entries.

There have been numerous debates about CCleaner being too agressive in it's file removal in MS Windows. I don't want to get into protracted discussions on that subject except to say that if CCleaner does remove any files necessary to Windows operations it hasn't affected my system(s) over the years. I have found that Windows is pretty smart in that it can replace some missing files. In the rare case something may be missing, users can run SFC and that will usually fix the baseline.

Subjectively speaking I like CCleaner. On the surface it appears to "clean" my system of unneeded files, keeps (most of) my drivers up to date and keep the registry clean of unneeded data. I haven't had any problems associated with it's use and I haven't found anything better.

Jabiru

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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Host Windows 11 Pro (24H2), (Windows 11 Insider Canary Channel Hyper-V VM )
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom User Build
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime X570-P
    Memory
    4X 16GB (DDR4-2133 / PC4-17000) (64GB)
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon Pro WX2100 Workstation
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek S1200A 8-Channel High Definition Audio CODEC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2X LG 32UN880-A
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    1X WD Black 1TB NVMe M2 SSD, 2X WD Blue 500GB NVMe M2 SSD, 1X WD Blue 1TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    Corsair CX550M
    Case
    Corsair 110R
    Cooling
    Corsair iCUE H115i RGB PRO XT Liquid CPU Cooler
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270 KB/Mouse Combo
    Mouse
    Logitech K270 KB/Mouse Combo
    Internet Speed
    800Mb
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge, Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    MalwareBytes, MS Defender
    Other Info
    1x Seagate 2TB external USB HDD, 1x 5TB external USB WD Passport HDD, 1x externql USB WD SATA 1TB Green SATA SSD
I have used CCleaner for more than 7 years and found it very helpful in keeping my system "clean". I agree with many opinions that over the years MS has done a fair job in keeping the Windows OS "optimized", or at least allowing certain 'tools" within the baseline install to do most of what CCleaner does. Until recently I always used the free version which has somewhat limited functionality, noteably the "Health Check", "Custom Clean", and the "Registry Cleaner". About a year ago I bought a user license which opens up the capabilities to include the "Performance Optimizer" and the "Driver Updater". Until I upgraded I knew of no way to put programs to "Sleep" (I'm still not sure of what that means) or to efficiently update drivers. Prior to the upgrade updating drivers was a huge pain, I'd have to go to multiple websites and download drivers (when I could find them), and using the driver "updater" within the Windows device manager was useless. In addition MS distributes some driver updates up to a year late and sometimes doesn't even have updates to my hardware. (Having said that, CCleaner doesn't always have the necessary HW driver updates either.) The upgraded driver updater to me is worth the money. In one click it painlessly updates most of my drivers with the latest versions, and I've never had a problem with it.

I recently did a check comparing MS DiskCleanup and CCleaner to see what the differences were. First I ran DiskCleanup to see what it could find that could be deleted. It found 34.4 MB worth of files to delete. Then I ran CCleaner and it found 48 "Trackers" and 186.6MB of "Junk" Files in the "Health Check", and 96.3MB of "Files to be Removed" in the "Custom Clean". The "Registry Cleaner" found many unused file extensions and numerous ActiveX "Issues". Assuming there are no duplications between "functions" in CCleaner (and there may be), that's a total of ~283MB of unneeded space taken up on my system, not to mention the potential performance effects. I then executed DiskCleanup which removed all but 6.6MB of files. It left 3.88MB of Temp files and 132KB of Shader Cache files. (Subsequent re-runs of DiskCleanup did not remove these files). I then executed CCleaner to see what DiskCleaner didn't delete. CCleaner found 19 "Trackers" and 185.6MB of "Junk" to remove in the "Health Check" and 90.8MB of "Files to be removed". Clearly CCleaner found many things DiskCleanup didn't. In addition I don't think MS does nything to keep the Registery Clean of unecessary entries.

There have been numerous debates about CCleaner being too agressive in it's file removal in MS Windows. I don't want to get into protracted discussions on that subject except to say that if CCleaner does remove any files necessary to Windows operations it hasn't affected my system(s) over the years. I have found that Windows is pretty smart in that it can replace some missing files. In the rare case something may be missing, users can run SFC and that will usually fix the baseline.

Subjectively speaking I like CCleaner. On the surface it appears to "clean" my system of unneeded files, keeps (most of) my drivers up to date and keep the registry clean of unneeded data. I haven't had any problems associated with it's use and I haven't found anything better.

Jabiru

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Windows 7 years ago and now is totally different. 7 Years in computing (and most technology terms) is simply a "Geological age". Dinosaur technology versus quantum physics and even the stone age.

Cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
Doesn't work with all programs, only UWP apps I think.

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Don't you need to disable them from Startup tab of Task Manager to make sure they won't run at background?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    Erica6
    Memory
    Micron Technology DDR4-3200 16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC671
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster U28E590
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG MZVLQ1T0HALB-000H1
If it aint broke, don't fix it :-) I found ccleaner not very intuitive to use and after one disaster, never again (in Windows 7). Personally I don't think it's necessary and prefer to keep only necessary things on the computer. In terms of tools. I know some people have a fondness for it and know how to use it. It might be something someone enjoys using, if they know what they're doing, but don't think it's for inexperienced users or necessary in Windows 10 and 11.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 2TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
The disaster was opting to clean unused space on an hdd (something not necessary with NVME's). Broke the system.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 2TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
My experience is with five premium XPS laptops since 2000. Dell computers come with Dell Support Assist preinstalled. I use Dell Support Assist daily and I run Dell Command | Update whenever I run Windows Update. I like to frequently check Windows Update throughout my day. I use Windows Storage Sense and keep it turned ON. My Dell XPS computers have always run smoothly and problem free. I have no use for CCleaner.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 16 9640
    CPU
    Intel Core Ultra 9 185H
    Memory
    32GB LPDDR5x 7467 MT/s
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 8GB GDDR6
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16.3 inch 4K+ OLED Infinity Edge Touch
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    1 Terabyte M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
    Cooling
    Vapor Chamber Cooling
    Mouse
    None
    Internet Speed
    960 Mbps Netgear Mesh + 2 Satellites
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge (Chromium) + Bing
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Security (Defender)
    Other Info
    Microsoft 365 subscription
    Microsoft OneDrive 1TB Cloud
    Microsoft Visual Studio
    Microsoft Visual Studio Code
    Microsoft PowerToys
    Macrium Reflect X subscription
    Dell Support Assist
    Dell Command | Update
    1Password Password Manager
    Amazon Kindle for PC
    Interactive Brokers Trader Workstation
    Lightroom/Photoshop subscription
    BitLocker
    CoPilot
I resort to tools like ccleaner only when I get into a troubleshooting bind, have exhausted all other options and am looking for the hail mary. It's not a tool that I depend upon for routine maintenance.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Beelink SEI8
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8279u
    Motherboard
    AZW SEI
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 2666Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Plus 655
    Sound Card
    Intel SST
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus ProArt PA278QV
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe
    PSU
    NA
    Case
    NA
    Cooling
    NA
    Keyboard
    NA
    Mouse
    NA
    Internet Speed
    500/50
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Mini PC used for testing Windows 11.
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900x
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Strix X570-E Gaming
    Memory
    64GB DDR4-3600
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GeForce 3080 FT3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQ. ASUS ProArt Display PA278QV 27” WQHD
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2TB WD SN850 PCI-E Gen 4 NVMe
    2TB Sandisk Ultra 2.5" SATA SSD
    PSU
    Seasonic Focus 850
    Case
    Fractal Meshify S2 in White
    Cooling
    Dark Rock Pro CPU cooler, 3 x 140mm case fans
    Mouse
    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
    Keyboard
    Corsiar K65 RGB Lux
    Internet Speed
    500/50
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Defender.

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Gigabyte
    CPU
    i7 9700K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 3080Ti
I resort to tools like ccleaner only when I get into a troubleshooting bind, have exhausted all other options and am looking for the hail mary. It's not a tool that I depend upon for routine maintenance.
The best "Hail Mary" pass if you really need it is surely a re-install of windows. In any case if one takes decent backups not only when upgrading the OS to a newer / later build and keeps the OS separate from data and user files then a complete system backup only takes a few minutes to run on any recent hardware, If installing any 3rd party software - depending on the nature of the beast - just backup before installing so any problems just do a restore.

I don't think I've had a "broken Windows OS" since W7 days -- I've had cases where a newer insider build won't install or a program e.g snipping tool gets broken in an insider build but these are essentially beta or even alpha builds so one should expect the odd glitch or two.

In any case those people who tweak / play with their OS's with odd registry tweaks, modifying dll's etc a lot are usually experienced enough to run backup / restore if (and when) they break things.

However a lot of users simply add these things like Anti Virus software etc - not actually on the basis that they are technically needed - but it just gives them piece of mind. E.g at the world snooker championship in Sheffield UK --all the players can play top class snooker and on their day are pretty similar in ability -- however the winners are usually mentally more attuned. Same with other top pro sport --it's often a mental thing rather than physical / technical ability.

@mxlexmark2

those things have been out since XP days (or even "before pontius was a pilot") - weren't useful then and aren't worth it now.


Cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
Yes I stopped using programs like SUPERAnti-Spyware, SpyBoT (which I rarely used), AVAST! (now I don't like they added so much Bloat Eh) but windows Defender is all you really NEED
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    WiN11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom 775 System
    CPU
    Xeon E5450 3.0GHZ (OC 3.6GHZ)
    Motherboard
    ASUS PQ5-EM
    Memory
    8GB (2GBX4)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro K2200 4GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    1TB|750GB USB, 3 SSDs 2 240GB 1 128GB, 750GB HDD
    PSU
    650WATT Rosewill
    Case
    Rosewill with side Window
    Cooling
    5 Fans and a big HSK for cpu
    Keyboard
    Rosewill RGB
    Mouse
    Rosewill RGB
    Internet Speed
    AT&T 150MB DL\UP
    Browser
    FireFox
    Antivirus
    None
    Other Info
    I'm lucky to even be here after 6yrs from my car accident
  • Operating System
    WiN10 LTSC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Hp 8460p
    CPU
    i7 2670QM 2.20GHZ
    Motherboard
    Hp 161C
    Memory
    8GB (2X4GB) DUAL Channel
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics 3000
    Sound Card
    Intel high Def (basically onboard)
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    OS 128GB l Storage (caddy) 320GB
    PSU
    AC (IDK the watts)
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    A USB 3.0 in the Express Card Slot
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