Anyone else leaving Windows 11

Rocky · Jul 2, 2021

JMedlock83 said:
This isn't a Beta Version. It's an Insider Preview. I am one of those that installed it and i'm using it as my everyday driver. It's not given me any problems at all. IF it does, then i'll just go back to Window 10 for a while. I don't mind doing fresh installs. My computer takes literally 10 minutes to do a complete format and fresh install. The longest part is reinstalling all of my software.

The definition of an Insider Preview is a Beta Version. You might have forgotten your language and definitions, but they are one and the same.

JAM83 · Jul 2, 2021

Rocky said:
The definition of an Insider Preview is a Beta Version. You might have forgotten your language and definitions, but they are one and the same.

Dev Channel, Beta Channel, Release Preview Channel

3 Channels, 3 separate versions. . This is not a BETA version. Maybe you should read the difference. Windows Insider Channels

Rocky · Jul 2, 2021

In my book, if it is not fully tested it is Beta.

JAM83 · Jul 2, 2021

Rocky said:
In my book, if it is not fully tested it is Beta.

Beta Version. The version of a software product that is used in the final stage of testing before it is commercially released. Obviously, this isn't the final state of testing. . . lol

brummyfan · Jul 2, 2021

I am staying with Win11, it has given me no problem and a very good OS IMO.

BunnyJ · Jul 2, 2021

At this point I'm not going back to 10.. my PC meets all of the requirements and when I upgrade my processor in Sept I'll be all set to use 11. Setting up TPM 2 and secure boot was easy and I got it done in about 30 minutes.

I really like 11 and for me it's a keeper.. YMMV
Jeff

JAM83 · Jul 2, 2021

BunnyJ said:
At this point I'm not going back to 10.. my PC meets all of the requirements and when I upgrade my processor in Sept I'll be all set to use 11. Setting up TPM 2 and secure boot was easy and I got it done in about 30 minutes.

I really like 11 and for me it's a keeper.. YMMV
Jeff

yep, same here! Even though i get messages saying my PC isn't compatible, it is. . . lol

Edwin · Jul 2, 2021

At this point I'm going back to bed!!!

BunnyJ · Jul 2, 2021

JMedlock83 said:
yep, same here! Even though i get messages saying my PC isn't compatible, it is. . . lol

Run this and post the results.. I would like to see what the issues are

Releases · rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11

Detection Script to help identify why your PC is not Windows 11 Release Ready. Now Supporting Update Checks! - rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11

github.com

JAM83 · Jul 2, 2021

BunnyJ said:
Run this and post the results.. I would like to see what the issues are

Releases · rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11

Detection Script to help identify why your PC is not Windows 11 Release Ready. Now Supporting Update Checks! - rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11

github.com

It's my CPU (AMD Ryzen 7 1800X)

JAM83 · Jul 2, 2021

BunnyJ said:
Run this and post the results.. I would like to see what the issues are

Releases · rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11

Detection Script to help identify why your PC is not Windows 11 Release Ready. Now Supporting Update Checks! - rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11

github.com

BunnyJ · Jul 2, 2021

JMedlock83 said:
View attachment 1630

That's just like mine and I'm getting a Ryzen 3 3200G to fix the CPU issue. I plan on getting it in Sept as a b-day present for myself

BunnyJ · Jul 2, 2021

JMedlock83 said:
It's my CPU (AMD Ryzen 7 1800X)

First gen... it has 14nm as does my current one and it needs 12nm

larc919 · Jul 2, 2021

The only place I have 11 is on my Insider DEV machine. Unless there are substantial non-cosmetic improvements, I likely won't ever install it on my non-Insider machines (even though they all meet necessary requirements). Just can't see any real reason to so far.

Edwin · Jul 2, 2021

Gonna go back...

Edwin · Jul 2, 2021

Ended up back on the leak! Duh!

Give it another go, shall we???

Macboatmaster · Jul 2, 2021

I think like any other new Windows, just the same as we experienced with 10 when that was released there are bound to be some problems at first, especially with the Insider builds, which of course as has been said - are basically being tested and Microsoft relying on the problem reports to fine tune the OS.

It is still some 4 months or so until it will be released on new computers with that system already installed and the same approx when the release becomes available as an update

The problem for those who decide not to upgrade because they do not like it OR cannot because their computer does not meet the hard requirements of 11, as against the soft requirements (when it seems 11 will still be installable) will be on 14 October 2025, when 10 goes end of support.

I have no real evidence to support my opinion but I am not surprised that Microsoft have decided to end 10.
This is how I see the situation

It would, in my opinion, appear that Microsoft have decided that writing new versions of 10 and all the security releases for old BIOS firmware, 32 bit installations, non TPM systems etc. , has proved to be too time consuming and costly. One must remember that the hardware hash of each Windows 10 system is registered on the Microsoft servers and there would seem to be little doubt, that the relatively small percentage of systems across the world, that do not meet the requirements of 11, have made it uneconomical and impractical to further develop Windows 10 as they intended.

I think the die was set when Microsoft decided that

TPM recommendations

This article provides recommendations for Trusted Platform Module (TPM) technology for Windows.

docs.microsoft.com

Windows 10 for desktop editions (Home, Pro, Enterprise, and Education)

Since July 28, 2016, all new device models, lines or series (or if you are updating the hardware configuration of an existing model, line or series with a major update, such as CPU, graphic cards) must implement and enable by default TPM 2.0 (details in section 3.7 of the Minimum hardware requirements page). The requirement to enable TPM 2.0 only applies to the manufacturing of new devices. For TPM recommendations for specific Windows features, see TPM and Windows Features.

and of course TPM and SHA (Secure Hashing Algorithm) are closely connected and that I think is why Microsoft it would appear are going to stay with TPM 2.0 as a requirement when 11 is released on new computers or as an upgrade from 10, although they seemed at one time to say that 11 may accept TPM 1.2

More detail here

Why Windows 11 is forcing everyone to use TPM chips

You probably already have one, but it may not be enabled.

www.theverge.com

TairikuOkami · Jul 2, 2021

It can only get better from now on. MS has released the raw version and bugs are going to be fixed every week.

Edwin · Jul 2, 2021

TairikuOkami said:
It can only get better from now on...

We've been saying that about W10 for six years now!!!

TairikuOkami · Jul 2, 2021

Edwin said:
We've been saying that about W10 for six years now!!!

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