BIOs does not detect CD/ROM drive, but drive detected by Windows explorer


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gundobaldo66

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I am on Windows 11 on a Dell OPtrex 30000 Tower. I need to configure the Cd/Rom drive as a 1st boot option in BIOS. This drive is not listed in the BIOS configuration options. I tried to use the ADD feature, but it doesn't show in the root devices. The driver is installed and there is no further update available. With my previous 8 years old (!) compuere I could always do this easily, Why not with this latest state-of-art computer?
Is it supposed to do this? For a number of reasons, it is very handy to be able to boot from a CD/DVD ROM or any other selected drive ( USB or other).

How to go about this?

Thanks

Gundobaldo
 

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  • OS
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    Dell Optiplex 3000
    CPU
    12 Gen Intel core i5-12500 3,00 Ghz
    Memory
    16 GB
See enabling legacy BIOS (CSM mode) will list the CD drive if not upgrade the BIOS firmware.
 

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Some BIOSes allow you to enable "UEFI and Legacy".

If you have that option, use it. It covers everything.
For example, my BIOS allows me to enable both...

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Also, the BIOS may need to know which port the ODD is plugged into on the motherboard, been awhile but I have seen where it had to be in the first port.
 

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FreeBooter said:
See enabling legacy BIOS (CSM mode) will list the CD drive if not upgrade the BIOS firmware.
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Thanks
The BIOS says UEFI only and I see no CSM enabling option. Does it really mean that there is no way to boot from the CD/DVD Rom Drive? What a bummer! Or is there perhaps a way to go about this? drivers? with CMD prompt? I hear that this may have something to do with the partition type MBR vs GPT? I have also searched the web on this. I am facing a brick wall.
 

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  • OS
    windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 3000
    CPU
    12 Gen Intel core i5-12500 3,00 Ghz
    Memory
    16 GB
Does the BIOS and should have legacy BIOS option which turns on CSM mode.

Why do you want to boot from DVD drive?
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    Erica6
    Memory
    Micron Technology DDR4-3200 16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060
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    Realtek ALC671
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    Samsung SyncMaster U28E590
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG MZVLQ1T0HALB-000H1
FreeBooter said:
Does the BIOS and should have legacy BIOS option which turns on CSM mode.

Why do you want to boot from DVD drive?
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With the standard Recovery feature, even though I have the option of keeping my documents, it us practically a fresh install, therefore I lose all the installed apps, including the printer drivers, etc. and it is usually a a bit lengthy to reinstall them. every time.
To avoid this, I used to do a Drive Image BUP with Reflect and then, in case of problems with the current installation ( virus or other) it would only take a few minutes to do a complete recovery from the DRIVE Image with the Reflect rescue disk , but this requires booting from the CD/DVd Rom drive. This is why I need this option. If you have other suggestions, I'd appreciate them.

Thanks

Gundo baldo
 

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System One

  • OS
    windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 3000
    CPU
    12 Gen Intel core i5-12500 3,00 Ghz
    Memory
    16 GB

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    Erica6
    Memory
    Micron Technology DDR4-3200 16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC671
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster U28E590
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG MZVLQ1T0HALB-000H1
I have a Dell Optiplex 3040 for comparison to your system. On the top bios/UEFI screen is Settings > General. Under General is "Advanced Boot Options" and "UEFI Boot Path Security." Both of those have options to set for Boot Device options. Also further down the Menu is "Secure Boot" and under that is "Secure Boot Enable." On mine it is set to Off/Disable.
For advice Win11 does not require Secure Boot to be ON or Enabled, it just needs to be available. They are restrictions noted in the Bios about how these setting work. Like if "Secure Boot" is Enabled some other options might not be like the Boot Path settings with Legacy boot options.
 

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    I'm a computer enthusiast so have quite a few systems that I run. More like an advanced hobby.
BamaInArk said:
I have a Dell Optiplex 3040 for comparison to your system. On the top bios/UEFI screen is Settings > General. Under General is "Advanced Boot Options" and "UEFI Boot Path Security." Both of those have options to set for Boot Device options. Also further down the Menu is "Secure Boot" and under that is "Secure Boot Enable." On mine it is set to Off/Disable.
For advice Win11 does not require Secure Boot to be ON or Enabled, it just needs to be available. They are restrictions noted in the Bios about how these setting work. Like if "Secure Boot" is Enabled some other options might not be like the Boot Path settings with Legacy boot options.
Click to expand...
Thanks

THere no "Settings" on the top of the BIOS /UEFI screen, only a toggle switch for "Advanced Boot Options" ( ON or Off, I suppose). It is currently on ADVANCED.
On the Boot Configuration screen, these are these options:
Enable MS UEFI CA ( ON)
Secure BOOT Mode ( OFF)
Deployed Mode ( ticked box)
Enable Custom Mode OFF
Enable Force PXE on next boot DISABLED

There is nothing pointing to CSM mode.

1.Should I perhaps enable the " Force PXE boot option, whatever it is?)
2.I updated the BIOS to the latest 1,35 version the day before yesterday. Is there perhaps a way to download another DELL BIOS version allowing LEGACY/CSM , if available? Or may a driver?
3. As a last resort, if I am unable to boot from the CD/DVD ROM-RW, drive can I achieve what I want through a bootable USB drive containing the Drive Image not of the system, but the fully loaded partIition be eventually restored , if need be? I could then set the USB drive as a 1st boot priority in the BIOS.

THanks again

Gundo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 3000
    CPU
    12 Gen Intel core i5-12500 3,00 Ghz
    Memory
    16 GB
PXE is for Preboot Execution Environment. Basically booting from a Network source. If you don't have a "Settings" page then your Bios/UEFI must be very different than the other Dells I am used to.
 

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BamaInArk said:
PXE is for Preboot Execution Environment. Basically booting from a Network source. If you don't have a "Settings" page then your Bios/UEFI must be very different than the other Dells I am used to.
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Would the BIOS version of your Optrex 3040 PC work on my computer?. I If so, I could download it and install it on my PC. What is your BIOS version?

THanks again for your help.

Gundo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 3000
    CPU
    12 Gen Intel core i5-12500 3,00 Ghz
    Memory
    16 GB
gundobaldo66 said:
Would the BIOS version of your Optrex 3040 PC work on my computer?. I If so, I could download it and install it on my PC. What is your BIOS version?

THanks again for your help.

Gundo
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I doubt it would work on different hardware. Which specific 3000 do you have? CPU? What is the "Service Tag" so I can look it up specifically?
 

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  • OS
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    Other Info
    I'm a computer enthusiast so have quite a few systems that I run. More like an advanced hobby.
Some computers don´t support CD ROM anymore. Use an external USB CD/ROM drive.
 

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    Windows 10

  1. Tap the F2 key at the Dell logo screen to enter System Setup or BIOS.
  2. On the left pane, click Boot Configuration.
  3. Scroll down to view the Secure Boot setting.
  4. Ensure that Secure boot is set to OFF.
  5. Scroll up to the Boot Sequence section, and click Add Boot Option.
  6. A new window appears with blank boot options.
    1. Click Browse for file.
    2. Select device > folder > file from the list.
    3. PciRoot..ESP (for example, EFI\Boot\bootx64.efi)
    4. Click OK.
  7. Type CD/DVD/CD-RW Drive in the Boot Option Name field.
and so on. They don't make it obvious or easy
 

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BamaInArk said:
I doubt it would work on different hardware. Which specific 3000 do you have? CPU? What is the "Service Tag" so I can look it up specifically?
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Optiplex 3000 Tower, Service Tag 9P6GWV3 , Processor 12Gen Intel Core i5-12500 3.00 Ghz

THKS
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 3000
    CPU
    12 Gen Intel core i5-12500 3,00 Ghz
    Memory
    16 GB

My Computer

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  • OS
    Win 7/10/11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Other Info
    I'm a computer enthusiast so have quite a few systems that I run. More like an advanced hobby.
On some PCs, you cannot make an optical drive a default boot option. Instead, you must press a key during post that brings up a list of bootable devices and you then select the device from which you wish to boot. I have several Mini PCs that behave in this manner.
 

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hsehestedt said:
On some PCs, you cannot make an optical drive a default boot option. Instead, you must press a key during post that brings up a list of bootable devices and you then select the device from which you wish to boot. I have several Mini PCs that behave in this manner.
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This is kinda interesting to me. I do wonder if this has more to do with Bios/UEFI settings themselves? Secure Boot tends to lockdown some of these alternate boot options. With that in mind why would bringing up the Boot Menu to be able to boot from a CD/DVD drive work when it's not allowed due to Secure Boot restrictions? Of course if could be as simple as the system Bios/UEFI does not offer that option while the Boot Menu does.
Does it make a difference whether the optical drive is internally connected via Sata or externally connected via USB? Hmmmmmm!
 

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  • OS
    Win 7/10/11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Other Info
    I'm a computer enthusiast so have quite a few systems that I run. More like an advanced hobby.
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