Botched CrowdStrike security update breaks Windows worldwide, causing BSOD and crashes

antspants · Jul 19, 2024

kelper said:
I don't know any retailers who take gold!

Grill makers and rappers?

antspants · Jul 19, 2024

neves said:
CrowdStrike might really take a hit cause of this.

I would doubt it.

Ghot · Jul 19, 2024

As for the article in the OP... I think CrowdStrike will be OK.
If one bad update could kill a company... Microsoft would have been dead 100,000 times over.

Note: The only real problem I have with MS is that they seem to have disbanded their quality control departments.
Someone at MS decided that WE would be a much cheaper alternative.

Brink · Jul 19, 2024

https://twitter.com/x/status/1814235001745027317

RD Mercer · Jul 19, 2024

antspants said:
It isn’t like this hasn’t happened before, where airports and the likes have shut down due to cloud issues. One would think they would, by now, have a backup solution.

And it’s just one more reason not to abolish cash.

Could be, I know when Houston had the Hurricane come through 2 weeks ago, 2. something million without power. Without any power folks couldn't buy gas or dry goods at the local markets. So yes! cash is still king when you have no power.

brummyfan · Jul 19, 2024

It took longer to pay for the goods at Waitrose this morning due to this problem

Ghot · Jul 19, 2024

Most states in the US have a 7% sales tax.
During power failures, it's amazing how many retailers don't know that you can just multiply the item price by 1.07 to get the item price with the sales tax already included.

steveg · Jul 19, 2024

kelper said:
I don't know any retailers who take gold!

Kind of tongue in cheek comment but pawn shops always have cash and willing to take gold. An ATM that doesn't need internet.

flhthemi · Jul 19, 2024

This is why I wish there was a simple way, like there used to be, to turn off automatic updates. I know, you can pause them, but I don't want them until I see they're not problematic.

RD Mercer · Jul 19, 2024

Ghot said:
Most states in the US have a 7% sales tax.
During power failures, it's amazing how many retailers don't know that you can just multiply the item price by 1.07 to get the item price with the sales tax already included.

Correct! Our tax in Houston is 8.25% so I just do the price by 1.0825

Ghot · Jul 19, 2024

There are also many, more legit shops that buy gold, at almost 100% of it's worth.
Jewelry shops will buy precious stones (usually diamonds), for cash, but many charge an appraisal fee. :/
Fortunately, loupes don't need electricity to work.

kelper · Jul 19, 2024

steveg said:
An ATM that doesn't need internet.

Are you sure? What if a card was reported stolen? I know the ATM can read the chip but how would it 'know' if the card or account had been closed?

Ghot · Jul 19, 2024

kelper said:
Are you sure? What if a card was reported stolen? I know the ATM can read the chip but how would it 'know' if the card or account had been closed?

I think he was likening a pawn shop to an... "ATM that doesn't need internet".

You just go in and give them your... watch (or whatever), and they give you cash. No internet required.

Wolfzz · Jul 19, 2024

CrowdStrike CEO: It "could be some time" for all systems to recover from software outage

CrowdStrike CEO: It "could be some time" for all systems to recover from software outage

CrowdStrike CEO George Kurtz stated in his first TV interview since this morning's worldwide Windows-based software outage that it "could be some time" before all the systems affected by it recover.

www.neowin.net

RD Mercer · Jul 19, 2024

Lets go back to the 60's. In the 1960s, air traffic controllers (ATCs) used a variety of tools to ensure the safe operation of aircraft, including maps, blackboards, and mental calculations....ATCs used maps to represent planes using boat-shaped weights called "shrimp boats"....ATCS used blackboards to aid in their work. ATCs used mental calculations to ensure the safe operation of aircraft. Radar By 1965, the Civil Aeronautics Administration (CAA) and the Air Force had installed a network of overlapping. "Mental Calculations" yes! back then, you actually had to use your brain cells.

Ghot · Jul 19, 2024

RD Mercer said:
Lets go back to the 60's. In the 1960s, air traffic controllers (ATCs) used a variety of tools to ensure the safe operation of aircraft, including maps, blackboards, and mental calculations....ATCs used maps to represent planes using boat-shaped weights called "shrimp boats"....ATCS used blackboards to aid in their work. ATCs used mental calculations to ensure the safe operation of aircraft. Radar By 1965, the Civil Aeronautics Administration (CAA) and the Air Force had installed a network of overlapping. "Mental Calculations" yes! back then, you actually had to use your brain cells.

Those were the days, my friend
We thought they'd never end
We'd sing and dance forever and a day
We'd live the life we choose
We'd fight and never lose
Those were the days, oh yes, those were the days

kelper · Jul 19, 2024

I am absolutely sure that computers have made ATC safer, not less safe.

RD Mercer · Jul 19, 2024

kelper said:
I am absolutely sure that computers have made ATC safer, not less safe.

I agree, but the message was, what do we do when hundreds or thousands of planes are in the air, and the network goes down?

neves · Jul 19, 2024

antspants said:
I would doubt it.

Things are really bad:

- flights on hold or canceled, not to mention the chaos in airports all over the world
- businesses temporarily closed/unavailable
- hospitals relying on computers - which are temporarily unavailable (maybe even some deaths as a result)

Don't think they'll come out of this with just a pat on their back - everyone laughing at the lossses.

Ghot said:
As for the article in the OP... I think CrowdStrike will be OK.
If a bad update could kill a company... Microsoft would have been dead 100,000 times over.

That's just it... CrowdStrike didn't have a bad reputation (quite the opposite). While Microsoft got away with it - for most part (lost some people to OSX or Linux) - cause of it's worldwide monopoly (kinda like a Hydra - you cut one head 2 others emerge).

Also, it's the corporate/enterprite world (where the real life monsters live & prosper) - who suffers cause of this human error... Not just couple of hundreds of home ussers (simple peasents by comparision)- who have to reset/reinstall their Windows or take their system to a local service - cause of some update going wrong.

Maybe not enough to kill it, but its reputatin - will take a hit.

antspants · Jul 19, 2024

They immediately took responsibility. They immediately set out to rectify it, all in the same day and first few hours of the incident.
If anyone needs to be held responsible for anything debilitating it should really be company and services system administrators for not having backup systems and processes in place.
Just my opinion of course.

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