Disable forced bios update on windows

nissimezra · Sunday at 11:10 AM

Hi everyone.

As you probably know windows will flash your bios without asking your permission, While 99% of this goes well there is always 1 percent the goes bad, really bad.
I need a way to disable only the bios update for at least a month. Why? because I'm a technician and I do a lot of new install and at least half has firmware update which is forced update. The last thing I want is to have to repair dead or bricked motherboard after just a simple clean install. Another option is to completely disable the updates for a month (pause updates will still force bios update). Yes I know about windows updates blocker.

Any suggestion or trick to stop updates temporary or just disable drivers updates (Home addition)?

Thx

antspants · Sunday at 11:55 AM

Not sure if this also includes BIOS updates.

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antspants · Sunday at 11:57 AM

nissimezra said:
As you probably know windows will flash your bios without asking your permission

Not sure if that’s actually factual unless you’ve agreed to include driver updates. I’ve never had it happen. Not for PC’s or Laptops

stormy13 · Sunday at 5:52 PM

antspants said:
Not sure if that’s actually factual unless you’ve agreed to include driver updates. I’ve never had it happen. Not for PC’s or Laptops

Same here.

The only reports of that sort of thing I have seen is from owners of appliance PC's; AKA Dell, HP, etc., when they are not trying to force it through whatever utility app they use.

Wynona · Sunday at 6:07 PM

antspants said:
Not sure if that’s actually factual unless you’ve agreed to include driver updates. I’ve never had it happen. Not for PC’s or Laptops

I've had my bios update in a surprise move; however, I don't mind it doing that. Saves me one more thing to remember.

I'm not really sure that Windows updates your bios, seems to me that would be the motherboard manufacturer's job.

stormy13 · Sunday at 6:20 PM

Wynona said:
I'm not really sure that Windows updates your bios, seems to me that would be the motherboard manufacturer's job.

Motherboard manufacturer's provide the updates for download on their support sites or notify of an update whatever utility apps they use (Armor Crate for Asus for example). What they don't do is ever force it through Windows Update of the app.

Wynona · Sunday at 6:23 PM

stormy13 said:
Motherboard manufacturer's provide the updates for download on their support sites or notify of an update whatever utility apps they use (Armor Crate for Asus for example). What they don't do is ever force it through Windows Update of the app.

Not to argue the point but when my bios update, they do it out of the blue and it doesn't have anything at all to do with Windows update. I've never had the bios to update while I was during a Windows update.

antspants · Sunday at 6:29 PM

Wynona said:
Not to argue the point but when my bios update, they do it out of the blue and it doesn't have anything at all to do with Windows update. I've never had the bios to update while I was during a Windows update.

Hi Wynona

Do you have any HP software on your PC that has auto update enabled, Wynona?

I hope the ankle rehab is going well

Wynona · Sunday at 6:33 PM

antspants said:
Hi Wynona

Do you have any HP software on your PC that has auto update enabled, Wynona?

I hope the ankle rehab is going well

Not that I know of; however, I never looked for any. I leave all of HP software alone.

Both ankles are doing fine. The main thing holding me back is the subconscious fear that I'm going to fall on my butt if I try to walk When I'm between the parallel bars, I have security and I can walk, but the minute I get out from between the bars my legs refuse to cooperate!

antspants · Sunday at 6:46 PM

Wynona said:
Not that I know of; however, I never looked for any. I leave all of HP software alone.

Both ankles are doing fine. The main thing holding me back is the subconscious fear that I'm going to fall on my butt if I try to walk When I'm between the parallel bars, I have security and I can walk, but the minute I get out from between the bars my legs refuse to cooperate!

There should be a HP folder in your Start menu or somewhere. I’d have a search and see if you can find the updates section, see if it’s set to auto update, if there is in fact any software at all.
If it doesn’t bother you, leave it?

Maybe a steel frame walker for a while until your confidence builds? Then a 4 pronged base walking stick, then you can fly on your own.
But I am sure you guys have already discussed all that

Winuser · Sunday at 7:15 PM

stormy13 said:
Motherboard manufacturer's provide the updates for download on their support sites or notify of an update whatever utility apps they use (Armor Crate for Asus for example). What they don't do is ever force it through Windows Update of the app.

In some cases they do. I had it happen to my laptop. Now I can't turn off Modern Standby.

Wynona · Sunday at 7:18 PM

antspants said:
There should be a HP folder in your Start menu or somewhere. I’d have a search and see if you can find the updates section, see if it’s set to auto update, if there is in fact any software at all.
If it doesn’t bother you, leave it?

Maybe a steel frame walker for a while until your confidence builds? Then a 4 pronged base walking stick, then you can fly on your own.
But I am sure you guys have already discussed all that

I have the Walker. I just don't have the strength to go very far at a time. And I've got a couple of canes, but haven't used them in a while.

glasskuter · Sunday at 8:23 PM

I can assert that if one has "include drivers with windows update" enabled, that device WILL sometimes get OEM bios updates along with their other drivers. I have noticed this happening more so when one's bios is outdated by several versions.

I always advise informed users to disable drivers updating through WU and deal with your drivers yourself. I advise OEM users to use whatever driver updating app their manufacturer offers to keep all drivers updated through using it, including bios. Regarding Intel and AMD graphics drivers if you want your driver updated sooner than what you will get through the OEM, you can also use Intel and AMD driver updating apps.

Custom built machines can use the mobo manufacture's driver updating app.

To keep either an OEM, Intel, or AMD app from automatically updating your drivers, disable it from autostarting with Windows and just use it manually.

antspants · Sunday at 8:25 PM

glasskuter said:
I advise OEM users to use whatever driver updating app their manufacturer offers to keep all drivers updated through using it,

Amen.

pseymour · Sunday at 8:27 PM

glasskuter said:
I can assert that if one has "include drivers with windows update" enabled, that device WILL sometimes get OEM bios updates along with their other drivers. I have noticed this happening more so when one's bios is outdated by several versions.

That's right. It happens through UEFI's UpdateCapsule mechanism. Windows has had this since version 8 at least.

nissimezra · Sunday at 11:58 PM

antspants said:
Not sure if this also includes BIOS updates.

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I swear to god

nissimezra · 2025-04-14T00:01:11-0400

pseymour said:
That's right. It happens through UEFI's UpdateCapsule mechanism. Windows has had this since version 8 at least.

Exactly. I do have bios programmer but it's not always possible to find bin file to recover the bios especially on a new laptop.

nissimezra · 2025-04-14T00:10:07-0400

stormy13 said:
Same here.

The only reports of that sort of thing I have seen is from owners of appliance PC's; AKA Dell, HP, etc., when they are not trying to force it through whatever utility app they use.

I really didn't ask your opinion on that, I shared my very bad experience with you guys. and my questions wasn't who believe it or not

antspants · 2025-04-14T02:29:13-0400

nissimezra said:
I swear to god

Not sue what that’s supposed to mean, did you use the tutorial or not?

Enable or Disable Include Drivers with Windows Updates in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to enable or disable including drivers with Windows Updates in Windows 10 and Windows 11. Windows Update will include drivers when available in Windows 11 by default. You can enable the Do not include drivers with Windows Updates policy to not include drivers...

www.elevenforum.com

Scannerman · 2025-04-14T02:32:08-0400

nissimezra said:
I really didn't ask your opinion on that, I shared my very bad experience with you guys. and my questions wasn't who believe it or not

My personal experience has been that Windows will not do something so drastic as to flash my system BIOS without asking for my consent first. This isn't an opinion. This has been my experience. I recall an incident where Windows was colluding with Intel to inject microcode into the Intel G3258 Silver Anniversary edition CPU to hobble the chip for 'security reasons' but it is my understanding that it was introduced as an optional update. This move prevented users from taking such liberties with the CPU as to attain clock speeds of over 5GHz on a little dual core that cost less than $100 US. For quite some time it was all the rave among gamers until it wasn't. Again, this isn't mere opinion. I own this CPU. I still tinker with it.

I would venture that if this is a paramount concern just turn off Windows Update altogether. Stuff happens and mis-clicks can be easily red as "yes". You can always turn on your permissions for updates when you're ready to receive them again. Even then there is no 100% guarantee that Windows won't foist an update on you in spite of this. After all, it is their software that you have been licensed to use and Microsoft reserves the right to do what they like with it. MS is notorious for their caveats. Herein lies the crux of the matter: Where does one draw the line? I like to draw it at the hardware but in principle I cannot trust the idea that Windows will not violate my preferences. Wishing you the best.

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