I need Explorer to show more information about .OGG files


Aeri

Aeri

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I have a not insignificantly sized library of music with a wide array of file types gathered over many years. This wasn't an issue on my old PC, but I recently got a brand new one, to my annoyance I had to grapple with issues I'd dealt with long ago, issues like explorer beefing it when I so much as look at an OGG file.
(Uninstalled Windows' Web Media Extensions, if you're wondering, Web Media Extensions by Microsoft Windows completely cripples operation of my computer when I interact with an OGG file, always has, across multiple machines)

The files can now be interacted with normally, however, despite very much having additional metadata, which I painstakingly filled in for over 100 files a while back, it doesn't appear in explorer.

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In the name of due diligence I researched this issue at least a little bit, there were some open source downloads suggested that didn't appear to do anything, such as "Taglib Property Handler" which I had only a faint hope would work anyways, given it's from 2013. Is there just something fundamentally different about Windows 11's explorer that makes it terrible or what?
 
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The only time I encountered .ogg files was on my Linux Mint computer when I Ripped an audio CD, had to later Rip again but to .mp3.

EDIT: Looking back I see I forgot to mention the program on Linux I used, it was Rhythmbox.
 
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Hi, how much detail do you need? (This is what I have set up in Win 10)

I've added file handler properties using a free program 'File Meta Association Manager' for convenience.

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Try this one:
Softpointer - AudioShell 2

It supports a lot of formats and is a Shell Extension so Explorer will be able to let you see all you need to see for multiple different audio formats. It is a lot more than just that though...you can even edit tags for one or even multiple files at once...
 

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If properly Ripped this is what I get, if not done properly I get only Track 00 for the song title:

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    Intel Core i5 11th Gen. 2.40GHz
    Memory
    12GB
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD NVMe M.2
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro RTM x64
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 5890
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    Intel Core i5 10th Gen. 2.90GHz
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    16GB
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    Onboard, no VGA, using a DisplayPort-to-VGA adapter
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    24" Dell
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    512GB SSD NVMe, 4TB Seagate HDD
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If you click in a field there, can you modify it?
(See mine above for an example).
 

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Aeri said:
Uninstalled Windows' Web Media Extensions, if you're wondering, Web Media Extensions by Microsoft Windows completely cripples operation of my computer when I interact with an OGG file, always has, across multiple machines
Click to expand...
Yeah, it crashes Explorer for many users.
 

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    Lenovo A485
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    Ryzen 7 2700U Pro
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    Lenovo (WiFi/BT module upgraded to Intel Wireless-AC-9260)
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    32GB
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    iGPU Vega 10
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    Realtek
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    14" FHD (built-in) + 14" Lenovo Thinkvision M14t (touch+pen) + 32" Asus PB328
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    FHD + FHD + 1440p
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    Thinkpad / Logitech MX Keys
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    TPM2.0: Enabled
    AMD-V: Enabled
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    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 build 10.0.22631.5189(Release Preview Channel)
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    i7-7700k @4.8GHz
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    Asus PRIME Z270-A
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    32GB 2x16GB 2133MHz CL15
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    EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW 11GB
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    512GB ADATA SX8000NP NVMe PCIe Gen 3 x4
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    Logitech MX Keys
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    Windows Defender
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    AC WiFi Card
Directory Opus can show this in the full version. Not sure in the free version.Example.jpg
 

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dalchina said:
If you click in a field there, can you modify it?
(See mine above for an example).
Click to expand...
I have been able to change things on some files like song title, album if known, artist, etc.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro RTM
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 3400
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 11th Gen. 2.40GHz
    Memory
    12GB
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD NVMe M.2
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro RTM x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 5890
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 10th Gen. 2.90GHz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Onboard, no VGA, using a DisplayPort-to-VGA adapter
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Dell
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD NVMe, 4TB Seagate HDD
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    Firefox, Edge
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I have 15 fields in Properties, Details I can change, but only 5 in f. explorer, Details pane.
22 with AudioShell enabled in Properties, Details, but only 8 in f. explorer, Details pane.
 

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    Windows 10 Pro
SlicEnDicE said:
Try this one:
Softpointer - AudioShell 2

It supports a lot of formats and is a Shell Extension so Explorer will be able to let you see all you need to see for multiple different audio formats. It is a lot more than just that though...you can even edit tags for one or even multiple files at once...
Click to expand...
AudioShell seemed like it might work and then actually just made things worse(?) It literally works for like, ONE file, explorer now sort of hangs loading the folder. I closed Explorer and restarted it and it did a few more. Is this some kind of cache thing? (Note: I followed instructions on Audioshell's website about editing a registry key to let it do its thing with OGG files). May have to revert.
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This also had the side effect of breaking other previews

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    Windows 11
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    PRO B650-VC WIFI
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    DOMINATOR PLATINUM RGB DDR5
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Berton said:
The only time I encountered .ogg files was on my Linux Mint computer when I Ripped an audio CD, had to later Rip again but to .mp3.

EDIT: Looking back I see I forgot to mention the program on Linux I used, it was Rhythmbox.
Click to expand...

They're common in certain video game soundtracks as they're stored in the game's internal files, which comes up if a game does not release an official soundtrack that you can actually buy properly (and, well, any other sound the game uses I suppose). Also very old games (and some others) use them. Such as Minecraft and Space Station 13.

I use more OGG files than most users, probably.

I swear Windows 10 did this with no problems though, not sure what they've gone and messed up.
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 11
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    NaN
    CPU
    AMD RYZEN 7 7800X3D
    Motherboard
    PRO B650-VC WIFI
    Memory
    DOMINATOR PLATINUM RGB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 4080 SUPER
    Sound Card
    NaN
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP OMEN27qs - 27" IPS LED
    Screen Resolution
    1440p
    Hard Drives
    2TB Windows (C:) NVME
    1TB reserve (N:) NVME
    PSU
    EVGA Modular
    Cooling
    H150I ELITE CAPELLIX XT
    Internet Speed
    300 MBPS
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