I recently did BIOS update and my PC is stuck at MSI start up logo

Senecio · May 30, 2024

johnlgalt said:
AVOID MSI CENTER LIKE THE PLAGUE.

Same thing applies to App Center in Gigabyte utilities.

John

Senecio · May 30, 2024

antspants said:
Generally after a BIOS update, it has always helped me in similar circumstances to reset to defaults. Then on next boot, re-enter the BIOS and change things back to how I had them.
I don’t know why this is, but this has been my experience.

I agree. I have read that if you don't reset to 'optimised defaults' after updating the BIOS/UEFI, you can carry over some settings from the previous version of the BIOS, and they can cause problems. I always reset to optimised defaults, before resetting a long list of UEFI settings. It works well.

John

johnlgalt · May 30, 2024

FWIW, every single UEFI firmware update I've performed on this board since I bought it 3 years ago has always reset the settings, to the point of everything - all custom fan curves reset, advanced mode reset to basic mode, all OCs (including PBO, as I'm on an AMD platform) turned off, all boot devices detected being enabled, RAM XMP disabled, etc.

That's why it's easiest to go ahead and do the whole SecureBoot thing I outlined above first. For the best chances of favorable outcomes, the procedure may end up being:

Flash firmware update, reboot and enter UEFI settings
Manually reset to defaults (optimized if there is a choice), Save changes and reboot, then enter UEFI settings
Check SecureBoot info, if it lists the provider as unknown, change it from `Standard` to `Custom`, Save changes and reboot, then enter UEFI settings
Check SecureBoot info again - it should now show the correct provider info, change it from `Custom` back to `Standard`, Save changes and reboot, then enter UEFI settings
Proceed to make all my customizations again, saving, rebooting, and re-entering UEFI Settings again as necessary (usually maybe only once more) until it is exactly as I like, and then I proceed to boot into my OS.

I realize hat this sounds like a lot, but I have a lot of customizations, and this is still under a 30 minute process from start to finish, and that includes the actual UEFI firmware update flashing, which, since I have dual UEFI, takes a good 5-6 minutes all by itself.

FatherTime · May 30, 2024

antspants said:
The Beta includes CPU uCode changes. Perhaps an issue.

CPU uCode version 0x123 was updated for CPU performance optimization by disabling the CEP function for the 14th Gen CPU (stepping B0).

Enabled those settings, didn't seem to work. Sent a support ticket with MSI and they said my RAM don't support those functions. I'm emailing them why those settings were enabled in A0 version.

FatherTime · May 30, 2024

johnlgalt said:
FWIW, every single UEFI firmware update I've performed on this board since I bought it 3 years ago has always reset the settings, to the point of everything - all custom fan curves reset, advanced mode reset to basic mode, all OCs (including PBO, as I'm on an AMD platform) turned off, all boot devices detected being enabled, RAM XMP disabled, etc.

That's why it's easiest to go ahead and do the whole SecureBoot thing I outlined above first. For the best chances of favorable outcomes, the procedure may end up being:

Flash firmware update, reboot and enter UEFI settings

Manually reset to defaults (optimized if there is a choice), Save changes and reboot, then enter UEFI settings

Check SecureBoot info, if it lists the provider as unknown, change it from `Standard` to `Custom`, Save changes and reboot, then enter UEFI settings

Check SecureBoot info again - it should now show the correct provider info, change it from `Custom` back to `Standard`, Save changes and reboot, then enter UEFI settings

Proceed to make all my customizations again, saving, rebooting, and re-entering UEFI Settings again as necessary (usually maybe only once more) until it is exactly as I like, and then I proceed to boot into my OS.

I realize hat this sounds like a lot, but I have a lot of customizations, and this is still under a 30 minute process from start to finish, and that includes the actual UEFI firmware update flashing, which, since I have dual UEFI, takes a good 5-6 minutes all by itself.

Will check tomorrow if SecureBoot says Unknown.

johnlgalt · May 30, 2024

FatherTime said:
Enabled those settings, didn't seem to work. Sent a support ticket with MSI and they said my RAM don't support those functions. I'm emailing them why those settings were enabled in A0 version.

Could have been a bug where the UEFI interface showed the setting being enabled but the actual code did not actually apply the setting on boot....

Reminds me of a problem I had a long time ago, with an X58 motherboard from eVGA - they released one of the final BIOS versions for that motherboard, and in it, in order to run virtualization like Virtual Box, you had to disable the Intel VT-x setting, because enabling it actually disabled the VT-x extensions needed by virtualization software lol.

Mind you, that is not how it was supposed to work - you were supposed to enable in order to use virtualization, and disable it in order to disallow use of virtualization software.

FatherTime · May 30, 2024

@johnlgalt, was able to check SecureBoot and it's set to Standard.

From google, it looks like this in BIOS:

johnlgalt · May 30, 2024

Yeah, that is what it should be. I'm trying to remember (and failing to do so) where it shows the chip info. Let me just reboot and find it, your interface looks pretty similar to mine.