KB5043145 is giving me major problems in W11 V23H2

DeonK · Oct 10, 2024

Ok in the meantime while I was doing other things KB5044285 installed itself and build is now up to date 22631.4317

But my problems still exist so I think in 24hours time I will do the ""Reset this PC"" My fear is just that with re-installing all the windows updates the end result might just be the same as now.
Everyone in all the different time zones....thanx for all the help so far!

dacrone · Oct 10, 2024

It shouldn’t be a small file. If you choose the build you will compile the whole iso ~4-5GB

DeonK · Oct 10, 2024

Well I clicked on Download created package...and it was a 8kb .zip file. But anyway like I said 4317 has installed itself in the meantime...with no better results for me.

dacrone · Oct 10, 2024

DeonK said:
Well I clicked on Download created package...and it was a 8kb .zip file. But anyway like I said 4317 has installed itself in the meantime...with no better results for me.

This will explain how to use uup

UUP Dump - Download Windows Insider ISO

UUP Dump is the most practical and easy way to get ISO images of any Insider Windows 10 or Windows 11 version, as soon as Microsoft has released a new build. UUP Dump creates a download configuration file according to your choices, downloads necessary files directly from Microsoft servers, and...

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DeonK · Oct 10, 2024

dacrone said:
This will explain how to use uup

UUP Dump - Download Windows Insider ISO

UUP Dump is the most practical and easy way to get ISO images of any Insider Windows 10 or Windows 11 version, as soon as Microsoft has released a new build. UUP Dump creates a download configuration file according to your choices, downloads necessary files directly from Microsoft servers, and...

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Thank you very much for this, I will save this somewhere.

dacrone said:
GitHub - DavidXanatos/wumgr: Windows update managemetn tool for windows 10

Windows update managemetn tool for windows 10. Contribute to DavidXanatos/wumgr development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

and you can view available updates and hide whatever you dont want installed

I will appreciate it very much if you can also show me where I can find how to download and use this wumgr

Thanx

dacrone · Oct 10, 2024

DeonK said:
Thank you very much for this, I will save this somewhere.

I will appreciate it very much if you can also show me where I can find how to download and use this wumgr

Thanx

Scroll down and download the .zip
Just extract it to a folder and run the .exe in that folder

Release Release 1.1 · DavidXanatos/wumgr

Some minor feature updates and support for new update options [1.1] - 2019-12-11 Added DpiAwareness Application ID column support for DeploymentAction='OptionalInstallation' fixed issue where aut...

github.com

Here’s a tutorial for using WuMgr

How To Manage Windows Updates Using WuMgr

The Update Manager for Windows, or WuMgr, is a small application that allows users to manage Windows updates far better than the Settings app in Windows 10.

www.itechtics.com

DeonK · Oct 10, 2024

dacrone said:
Scroll down and download the .zip
Just extract it to a folder and run the .exe in that folder

Release Release 1.1 · DavidXanatos/wumgr

Some minor feature updates and support for new update options [1.1] - 2019-12-11 Added DpiAwareness Application ID column support for DeploymentAction='OptionalInstallation' fixed issue where aut...

github.com

Here’s a tutorial for using WuMgr

How To Manage Windows Updates Using WuMgr

The Update Manager for Windows, or WuMgr, is a small application that allows users to manage Windows updates far better than the Settings app in Windows 10.

www.itechtics.com

Thanx a lot!

Tours · Oct 10, 2024

Hi there, I've had the exact same problem as you twice now following windows updates (and did almost everything you've said word for word!).

Have you previously edited the windows registry to remove arrows from icon shortcuts?

If so, this may be the cause of your problem.

DeonK · Oct 10, 2024

Hi there Tours. I might have done that arrow removal thing yes, but I think many moons ago, or maybe on my old W7 laptop. I am still very reluctant to do that Restart this PC thing, so I am still trying to rectify and find a way to download a Task Manager.exe because I think with that I might just solve my Explorer/shortcuts/icons problem.
And I have broken my promise never to smoke again... :what:

Tours · Oct 10, 2024

DeonK said:
Hi there Tours. I might have done that arrow removal thing yes, but I think many moons ago, or maybe on my old W7 laptop. I am still very reluctant to do that Restart this PC thing, so I am still trying to rectify and find a way to download a Task Manager.exe because I think with that I might just solve my Explorer/shortcuts/icons problem.
And I have broken my promise never to smoke again...

As said previously, your situation is almost identical to mine. I too tried to find a 3rd party Task Manager, but once I did it still didn't resolve my problem. The first time this happened a couple of weeks ago I ended up doing an in place upgrade, which kept all of my files and apps and just reinstalled windows. This solved the problem for me until last night when windows updated and I was back in the same situation PLUS this time windows explorer wouldn't open either (nor could I open any desktop folders). I removed the "no shortcut arrow" tweak from the registry and that got my icons back. I then uninstalled the recent updates and reinstalled them and everything is now fully working (as far as I can tell). I'm not an expert, just a long time home/office user of Windows so I can't give you professional advice but I do feel your frustration! I don't ever recall as many problems with windows updates as I have with the current version.

Good luck!

DeonK · Oct 11, 2024

Tours said:
As said previously, your situation is almost identical to mine. I too tried to find a 3rd party Task Manager, but once I did it still didn't resolve my problem. The first time this happened a couple of weeks ago I ended up doing an in place upgrade, which kept all of my files and apps and just reinstalled windows. This solved the problem for me until last night when windows updated and I was back in the same situation PLUS this time windows explorer wouldn't open either (nor could I open any desktop folders). I removed the "no shortcut arrow" tweak from the registry and that got my icons back. I then uninstalled the recent updates and reinstalled them and everything is now fully working (as far as I can tell). I'm not an expert, just a long time home/office user of Windows so I can't give you professional advice but I do feel your frustration! I don't ever recall as many problems with windows updates as I have with the current version.

Good luck!

Ok so please tell me what is an " in place upgrade which kept all of my files and apps and just reinstalled windows" or which one did you choose in System> Recovery.

If I look at an old photo of my desktop it now looks like I did remove the arrows about a year ago. Can you please tell me how did you remove the "no shortcut arrow" from the registry? I have to try anything now, my frustration is sky high...
Thanx

dacrone · Oct 11, 2024

an in-place upgrade would be to download the 23h2 iso. the link i provided to uupdump will download that iso for you.

click the link
click the blue "Next" button
check the box for the version of windows you have (either Home or Pro - leave the other 3 blank)
check "Download and convert to ISO"
click blue button "create download package"
save the .zip file
browse to where you saved the .zip
extract the .zip
right click "uup_download_windows.cmd" > run as administrator
let the command window do its thing. when it needs any input, it will prompt you
once you have finished and it has created your iso file, let me know and we will proceed with the in-place upgrade

Tours · Oct 11, 2024

DeonK said:
Ok so please tell me what is an " in place upgrade which kept all of my files and apps and just reinstalled windows" or which one did you choose in System> Recovery.

If I look at an old photo of my desktop it now looks like I did remove the arrows about a year ago. Can you please tell me how did you remove the "no shortcut arrow" from the registry? I have to try anything now, my frustration is sky high...
Thanx

To remove the "no shortcut arrow" from the registry I deleted the Shell Icons folder that I had previously created, located here.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer

BUT this may have then caused the problem with windows explorer not working after, so be aware of that!

If you do an in place upgrade I think it resets the registry anyway, so you will lose any tweaks/settings changes you might have done (including the no shortcut arrow). If that's true, in theory you don't need to do the above if you are going to perform an in place upgrade.

NOTE: in the video at 2:20 "keep personal files and apps"

Once again I would like to say that I am not a professional so please use any advice I give with caution. Whilst your files and apps SHOULDN'T be affected it is of course best practice to back up everything before. Good luck!

DeonK · Oct 11, 2024

Thanx dacrone I have downloaded the zip file. Before I did anything else we had a look at a youtube video about this shortcut arrow changes in the Registry the Tours mentioned and to my surprise found that the string "%windir%\Windows\System32\shell32.dll,-50" which was suppose to be in "Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Icons" has disappeared!

I added the string back in the registry and restarted...and Lo and Behold.. ALL was back to normal as it was before.......My Shortcut icons back, Task Manager was back and my folders and Thumbnails was back as well as I can now see the Properties of any file!

So it remains a mystery to me how a Windows update can corrupt the registry like that, and also that just that one string that has removed the arrow from the shortcuts can make such a difference to other programs.

Thank you again guys for all the help received! I have learnt quite a lot....have a good weekend all!

Tours · Oct 11, 2024

Great to hear! It's a relief when you get everything back to normal. I know the feeling!

And you can give up the smokes again now! (Well, at least until the next windows update!).

DeonK · Oct 11, 2024

Tours said:
Great to hear! It's a relief when you get everything back to normal. I know the feeling!

And you can give up the smokes again now! (Well, at least until the next windows update!).

Thanx to dacrone I have now learnt about WuMgr, installed it and will soon not be caught out by an update again.....hopefully. Printed out the manual and will study it next week....and just to be on the safe side I will not shut down the laptop till next week...

fg2001gf11F · Oct 17, 2024

Finally on Oct 16, 2024, the MS Store Downloads button is consistent and present on all machines with public Build 22631.4317.
and MS Store Version 22409.1401.5.0. Not sure why they waited so long to get the same behavior on all machines.

Ghot · Oct 17, 2024

DeonK said:
Thanx to dacrone I have now learnt about WuMgr, installed it and will soon not be caught out by an update again.....hopefully. Printed out the manual and will study it next week....and just to be on the safe side I will not shut down the laptop till next week...

For future reference, here's the In-Place upgrade tutorial...

Repair Install Windows 11 with an In-place Upgrade

This tutorial will show you how to do a repair install of Windows 11 by performing an in-place upgrade without losing anything. If you need to repair or create a new recovery partition or having problems with the Windows 11 operating system on your PC, and the usual solutions will not fix it...

www.elevenforum.com

And here's the tutorial for removing the shortcut arrow...

Remove Shortcut Arrow Icon in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to remove the shortcut arrow overlay on all shortcut icons for all users in Windows 11. A shortcut is a link to an item (such as a file, folder, or app) on your PC. You can create shortcuts and then place them in a convenient location, such as on the desktop, so...

www.elevenforum.com

On ElevenForum, there's a tutorial for everything.

Also... I gave you ten points for filling out your computer specs.

DeonK · Oct 17, 2024

Ghot said:
For future reference, here's the In-Place upgrade tutorial...

Repair Install Windows 11 with an In-place Upgrade

This tutorial will show you how to do a repair install of Windows 11 by performing an in-place upgrade without losing anything. If you need to repair or create a new recovery partition or having problems with the Windows 11 operating system on your PC, and the usual solutions will not fix it...

www.elevenforum.com

And here's the tutorial for removing the shortcut arrow...

Remove Shortcut Arrow Icon in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to remove the shortcut arrow overlay on all shortcut icons for all users in Windows 11. A shortcut is a link to an item (such as a file, folder, or app) on your PC. You can create shortcuts and then place them in a convenient location, such as on the desktop, so...

www.elevenforum.com

On ElevenForum, there's a tutorial for everything.

Also... I gave you ten points for filling out your computer specs.

Thanx a lot for these tutorials, I will save the links. And yes it looks like everything will be on Elevenforum, here are people that knows everything about anything .
Thanx for the 10 points...lol..I also learnt about that later...

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