Macrium Reflect vs. EaseUS Todo Backup Home

cereberus · Apr 3, 2022

The-Hive said:
Glad you sorted it @cereberus I was unimpressed with Easeus and uninstalled it, so back to my usual backup and restore option that has never let me down yet, fingers crossed.

So I decided to write a simple guide how to use Easeus, but when I did a restore, it crapped out.

I think there is a bug whereby it does not like multiple bcd boot entries. I delete all boot entries rather than default OS, and that worked.

Good job it was in a vm, not my main OS!

So far, I have only managed to get one out of four restores to work, even booting from a usb drive rather than pre-os.

To me, it is a real shame, as I always found the old version of Easeus Todo to be rock solid, and was my always my "2nd choice tool".

I will probably get shot as the messenger, but people need to test this new version thoroughly, and I STRONGLY recommend making a full image backup of pc first with one of the competitor's tools like Macrium Reflect or AOMEI Backupper first.

The-Hive · Apr 3, 2022

Thanks for the info @cereberus that is good to know. I reformatted my usb and it worked fine now I have re-installed Todo everything else worked fine, I have not done a restore with it but I did check the backup and everything is where it should be. Todo is my 3rd choice behind Aomei and of course Macrium. btw I only have one bcd boot entry

CornishRattler · Apr 3, 2022

My free license is still sat in my inbox. I can’t see me moving away from Macrium, it just does what it says on the tin and has never let me down

Wynona · Apr 3, 2022

badrobot said:
This is weird. The USB recovery disk I created on my R9 3900x-X570 pc is giving BSOD on boot up. I tried and installed EaseUS on my old 4790k PC and created a USB recovery disk there and it is booting up fine. When I tried the same USB on my 3900x PC, it booted up fine.

Hey, Robot, I have something similar with Macrium Reflect:

If I make Rescue Media from this desktop, it won't boot and I finally get an error report. If I make the Rescue Media on my laptop, plug it into this desktop, it boots just fine.

I have no clue why this happens; tests include shutting down, uninstalling and reinstalling Macrium Reflect, using different Flash Drives, etc. Still no joy with Rescue Media built on this desktop.

And the kicker is that if I'm going to do a clean install and create an ISO Flash Drive on this desktop, it boots just fine.

cereberus · Apr 3, 2022

Wynona said:
Hey, Robot, I have something similar with Macrium Reflect:

If I make Rescue Media from this desktop, it won't boot and I finally get an error report. If I make the Rescue Media on my laptop, plug it into this desktop, it boots just fine.

I have no clue why this happens; tests include shutting down, uninstalling and reinstalling Macrium Reflect, using different Flash Drives, etc. Still no joy with Rescue Media built on this desktop.

And the kicker is that if I'm going to do a clean install and create an ISO Flash Drive on this desktop, it boots just fine.

It sounds to me like you are missing a driver on desktop Rescue usb drive, but it exists on drive created on laptop.

It is usually related to to storage drivers (optane drivers are a pain for this).

If you export the drivers from the desktop, you can add them to Drivers folder on Rescue Drive.

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I manually inject drivers into boot.wim in sources folder on Rescue Drive.

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Wynona · Apr 3, 2022

cereberus said:
It sounds to me like you are missing a driver on desktop Rescue usb drive, but it exists on drive created on laptop.

It is usually related to to storage drivers (optane drivers are a pain for this).

If you export the drivers from the desktop, you can add them to Drivers folder on Rescue Drive.

How to export Windows drivers using DISM - gHacks Tech News

Want to export all third-party drivers on Windows? You can do so using a single-command using DISM, to export all drivers so that you may install them again if the need arises.

www.ghacks.net

I manually inject drivers into boot.wim in sources folder on Rescue Drive.

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Thanks, @cereberus. I'll check that out when I get home; have to go do my running around in a bit.

yantodiaz · Apr 4, 2022

The-Hive said:
I tried EaseUs and couldn't really get on with it, I prefer Macrium for Images and Aomei for file and folder backups. There was absolutely nothing wrong with EaseUs Todo seemed to work well

i couldn't agree more

Etbh789 · Apr 19, 2022

cereberus said:
So I decided to write a simple guide how to use Easeus, but when I did a restore, it crapped out.

I think there is a bug whereby it does not like multiple bcd boot entries. I delete all boot entries rather than default OS, and that worked.

Good job it was in a vm, not my main OS!

So far, I have only managed to get one out of four restores to work, even booting from a usb drive rather than pre-os.

To me, it is a real shame, as I always found the old version of Easeus Todo to be rock solid, and was my always my "2nd choice tool".

I will probably get shot as the messenger, but people need to test this new version thoroughly, and I STRONGLY recommend making a full image backup of pc first with one of the competitor's tools like Macrium Reflect or AOMEI Backupper first.

Hi Cerebus,
Thank you so much for describing your experience with EaseUS Todo Backup Home.
Actually, Todo Backup Home can handle multiple bcd boot entries in the process of restore without any issues. In your case, if the restored disk does not boot, I strongly suggest you have a check by "BCDedit" command line to see if all your BCD boot entries point to the correct drive letter. However, if you have no idea of how to do it, I would like to arrange for our technician team to set up a remote session to help you out.

Please let me know if you have more issues when using this tool and comments from other forum members are welcomed too. I will try to reply. : )

cereberus · Apr 20, 2022

Etbh789 said:
Hi Cerebus,
Thank you so much for describing your experience with EaseUS Todo Backup Home.
Actually, Todo Backup Home can handle multiple bcd boot entries in the process of restore without any issues. In your case, if the restored disk does not boot, I strongly suggest you have a check by "BCDedit" command line to see if all your BCD boot entries point to the correct drive letter. However, if you have no idea of how to do it, I would like to arrange for our technician team to set up a remote session to help you out.

Please let me know if you have more issues when using this tool and comments from other forum members are welcomed too. I will try to reply. : )

I disagree with this response. There is nothing wrong with my bcd, and it has nothing to do with drive letters.

Backup and restore works fine with Macrium Reflect, and all boot entries worked fine after restore.

After using Easeus, pc refused to boot - my first and default entry is my host OS which is akways C drive. As a minimum,,the restore should have been able to boot to my host OS.

Anyway, I have uninstalled it as the tool is too limiting and cannot even do something basic as restore multiple partitions at same time - you either have to restore all partitions, or only one at a time.

To do incremental and differential backups is very non intuitive, and only done via schedule. I never worked how to do one simply on demand.

Thank you for offer of help, but in the end the tool is too limited, and not suited for my use.

davehc · Apr 20, 2022

cereberus said:
I disagree with this response. There is nothing wrong with my bcd, and it has nothing to do with drive letters.

Backup and restore works fine with Macrium Reflect, and all boot entries worked fine after restore.

After using Easeus, pc refused to boot - my first and default entry is my host OS which is akways C drive. As a minimum,,the restore should have been able to boot to my host OS.

Anyway, I have uninstalled it as the tool is too limiting and cannot even do something basic as restore multiple partitions at same time - you either have to restore all partitions, or only one at a time.

To do incremental and differential backups is very non intuitive, and only done via schedule. I never worked how to do one simply on demand.

Thank you for offer of help, but in the end the tool is too limited, and not suited for my use.

I can only respond -- Ditto

Stigg · Apr 20, 2022

Out of all the features of an image backup application, there is one that I place head and shoulders above everything.
Answer = RELIABILITY

You have to be able to trust that whatever application you are using, it is able to do the job for you in your time of need.
If you can't trust it, or have doubts about it, then you may as well get rid of it.

Note: I don't put my trust in just one backup application. I always have at least two. At present, I am running three on my computers.

Etbh789 · Apr 20, 2022

cereberus said:
I disagree with this response. There is nothing wrong with my bcd, and it has nothing to do with drive letters.

Backup and restore works fine with Macrium Reflect, and all boot entries worked fine after restore.

After using Easeus, pc refused to boot - my first and default entry is my host OS which is akways C drive. As a minimum,,the restore should have been able to boot to my host OS.

Anyway, I have uninstalled it as the tool is too limiting and cannot even do something basic as restore multiple partitions at same time - you either have to restore all partitions, or only one at a time.

To do incremental and differential backups is very non intuitive, and only done via schedule. I never worked how to do one simply on demand.

Thank you for offer of help, but in the end the tool is too limited, and not suited for my use.

Yes. Can't agree more with your opinion on Todo Backup Home. That complies with most of the improvement suggestions we've received for this round of collection. There is yet a lot to do to make it a better competitor to Macrirum Reflect, especially the help content, the GUI for advanced users, and some lagging functions. We are on the way to making it better.

However, performing not well in some aspects doesn't mean it's not a good product, even if Macrium Reflect has some drawbacks. That's what we insist and we are still confident in the general performance of EaseUS Todo Backup Home.

Anyway, thanks a lot for your time testing and commenting on this thread! I've marked all the points you've mentioned and will send them to our product team. Thanks again!

Etbh789 · Apr 20, 2022

davehc said:
I can only respond -- Ditto

Thanks for expressing your opinion, which will motivate us to address the product issues. : )

pparks1 · Apr 20, 2022

It's funny, I was discussing some backup imaging software the other day at work and a coworker asked me,
"How long has it been since you have actually needed to restore an image backup of a system because of a problem you experienced on your computer?"

It's funny because I honestly cannot remember the last time I restored an image backup. When i play on my little mini test PC, I restore that from time to time as I explicitly like to try some other OS's and such on it, but on my day to day driver, I haven't restored anything since I built the machine nearly 16 months ago. I only backup my workstation every few months with Macrium anyway. My data files are elsewhere, so if I lose everything on my desktop, it's not really going to be an issue.

cereberus · Apr 20, 2022

pparks1 said:
It's funny, I was discussing some backup imaging software the other day at work and a coworker asked me,
"How long has it been since you have actually needed to restore an image backup of a system because of a problem you experienced on your computer?"

It's funny because I honestly cannot remember the last time I restored an image backup. When i play on my little mini test PC, I restore that from time to time as I explicitly like to try some other OS's and such on it, but on my day to day driver, I haven't restored anything since I built the machine nearly 16 months ago. I only backup my workstation every few months with Macrium anyway. My data files are elsewhere, so if I lose everything on my desktop, it's not really going to be an issue.

It depends a lot on what you do. If you JUST use release versions of windows, you should not expect to restore very often. The primary use is to protect against drive failures, or a bad update.

If you use pc for mainly personal stuff, just backing up important data is probably ok asauming time to reinstall apps is not an issue.

However, if you mostly use pc for work related activities (where time is important), image backups help you recover very quickly.

Image backups are insurance. Like all things in life, if you are not uinsured, sooner or later, you will get bitten LOL.

pparks1 · Apr 21, 2022

cereberus said:
However, if you mostly use pc for work related activities (where time is important), image backups help you recover very quickly.

Image backups are insurance. Like all things in life, if you are not uinsured, sooner or later, you will get bitten LOL.

Yeah, i get that. And I'll continue to use Macrium to take those images.

It was just funny when I talked about it, as we all seem to spend a good amount of time between the different apps and imaging schedules and the like....I was just curious if others were restoring them quite regularly or if it was one of those things we do very infrequently.

In my case too, I have several different machines. So I have the luxury of having a mini pc that I test with.

Haydon · Apr 21, 2022

pparks1 said:
I have the luxury of having a mini pc that I test with.

IMHO, test restores on the host machine are the ones that count, not so much test restores on a test machine. Moreover, not all backups are created equal, and that's in a literal sense, some backups may not restore at all or not restore completely.

For those reasons, I myself use multiple, different backup tools on multiple, different backup media. There are still no guarantees, I guess, but sufficient risk reduction to let me sleep at night.

I think it's an individual choice, like how much car insurance one is willing to pay for.

pparks1 · Apr 21, 2022

Haydon said:
IMHO, test restores on the host machine are the ones that count, not so much test restores on a test machine. Moreover, not all backups are created equal, and that's in a literal sense, some backups may not restore at all or not restore completely.

For those reasons, I myself use multiple, different backup tools on multiple, different backup media. There are still no guarantees, I guess, but sufficient risk reduction to let me sleep at night.

I think it's an individual choice, like how much car insurance one is willing to pay for.

I should rephrase what I meant by my test machine.

I essentially have 2 personal desktop workstation boxes that I use at home

My full sized desktop, running Window 10. It's where all of my VM's are setup, my games, etc.. I like to ensure this one is always working. And when I am done working and just want to play a video game, it's great knowing that it will just turn on and run. This one runs a Ryzen 5900x, with 64GB of RAM and 4TB of NVme/SSD.
My mini sized pc desktop, running Windows 11. Its low power so I use it for most email, forums, web surfing, etc.. It's an 8th gen Core i5, 32GB of RAM and 2 x 500GB NVMe/SSD.

Neither of these above boxes have anything really important stored on them. My email is in the cloud (gmail), my bookmarks are all stored in Chrome, my personal files that are important that aren't cloud safe go to a file server in my house, other files and such go to OneDrive so they are easily accessible from both the above boxes, as well as my Mac laptop and my work computer in the office.

So, when I experiment and play with new software and such I have the ability to do so on my mini pc running Windows 11. I back this one up a bit more frequently as

It's small in size, not much data
If I want to play with a new OS or something, it's a safe area that won't put my main desktop at risk

I find that I occasionally restore to my mini pc, or try it out an insider release or something else.

Haydon · Apr 21, 2022

OK

I maintain a dedicated test machine too (and a couple of other old machines that I sometimes use for testing) What I found wrt to backup and restore is what happens on one machine cannot always serve as a proxy for what happens on another machine, i.e. the processes do not always replicate exactly on machines that are configured differently.

FWIW, I think that's the source of much of the postings here, even if the same backup software is used. That may also be the source of why one backup software is more (or less) consistent among machines than another backup software.

trevo · Apr 21, 2022

cereberus said:
Image backups are insurance. Like all things in life, if you are not uinsured, sooner or later, you will get bitten LOL.

A good analogy... I took advantage of the generous giveaway of EaseUS.
I tested it, but after three failed attempts to create restore media, I lost confidence and gave up.
I will continue to use Macrium which I have used on several occasions to successfully restore.

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