Microsoft apparently hates it when you switch from Microsoft Account to Local account


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Hey, MS! Analyze this!

🖕🖕🖕🖕

My Local Account suits me just fine, thank you!
 

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    Cherry Stream TKL JK-8600US-2 Wired
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It ain't rocket science...,
somewhere along the line, we paid for the privilege of using your operating system, we shall abide by the EULA..., other than that, leave us alone!
As one of the comments suggested:
"I shouldn't have to log into the dealership every time I start my car!" (although, that seems to be changing as well!)
Bingo. This is my first post on this forum. Just signed up today. We are trying to get a locat account set up and we are having a hard time getting around the account set up prompts. Suggestions?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
Bingo. This is my first post on this forum. Just signed up today. We are trying to get a locat account set up and we are having a hard time getting around the account set up prompts. Suggestions?

@SkyChimp

What version of W11 are you using.

If anything OTHER than HOME simply at install time at the first boot in the OOBE (i.e the bit where you get prompted for initial setup) choose Work / School computer rather than HOME computer and then at the sign in options choose Domain Join. Then it all carries on with a local account. No need to actually HAVE a domain.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
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    PC/Desktop
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    2 X Intel i7
@SkyChimp

What version of W11 are you using.

If anything OTHER than HOME simply at install time at the first boot in the OOBE (i.e the bit where you get prompted for initial setup) choose Work / School computer rather than HOME computer and then at the sign in options choose Domain Join. Then it all carries on with a local account. No need to actually HAVE a domain.

Cheers
jimbo
It is the Home edition. It took a lot to work around
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11
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    Laptop
@jimbo45 Here is the thread posts that l was engaged with to get this completed. There was a useful Link in there from YouTube of how to get around the S Mode also.

 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
@jimbo45 Here is the thread posts that l was engaged with to get this completed. There was a useful Link in there from YouTube of how to get around the S Mode also.

Hi there
Thanks for the info -- I have no use for Windows 11 Home edition though -- but others might find it useful.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
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    PC/Desktop
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    2 X Intel i7
Ok, I've read this entire thread, and even laughed some, but the premise of this topic is strange to me.

Hopefully, some day, more guys and gals will install Windows xx the way I and some other do, , , Download an ISO of the Windows you want, from a known reputable source, then burn that ISO to a Flash Drive, using Rufus, which can remove all the MS BS, then use that USB drive to boot up your PC and perform a CLEAN INSTALL. Windows will then install as a LOCAL account, and even put in your User Name, if you like.

If you've saved all your data files to a USB Flash Drive or External HD, you can add those back in later.

Almost everything that many users hate about Microsoft Windows, will be eliminated when using that process.

I've used that same install process on all ten of my PC's and I just don't experience any of the problems that I've read about others having with Windows. I just have to shake my head in amazement, when I read about all the problems that so many Windows users report having. ???

Windows xx Home? NEVER! I use only the PRO version of Windows. It's just so much easier to install, and customize.

Cheers Mates!
TM :cool:
 
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Ok, I've read this entire thread, and even laughed some, but the premise of this topic is strange to me.

Hopefully, some day, more guys and gals will install Windows xx the way I and some other do, , , Download an ISO of the Windows you want, from a known reputable source, then burn that ISO to a Flash Drive, using Rufus, which can remove all the MS BS, then use that USB drive to boot up your PC and perform a CLEAN INSTALL. Windows will then install as a LOCAL account, and even put in your User Name, if you like.

If you've saved all your data files to a USB Flash Drive or External HD, you can add those back in later.

Almost everything that many users hate about Microsoft Windows, will be eliminated when using that process.

I've used that same install process on all ten of my PC's and I just don't experience any of the problems that I've read about others having with Windows. I just have to shake my head in amazement, when I read about all the problems that so many Windows users report having. ???

Windows xx Home? NEVER! I use only the PRO version of Windows. It's just so much easier to install, and customize.

Cheers Mates!
TM :cool:
I don't install Windows by downloading the ISO. Instead, I buy new & unused laptops that come with pre-installed Windows.

I download the ISO, but I don't burn it to a flash drive using Rufus. Instead, I copy all of my bootable ISO files to a Ventoy-formatted flash drive. Ventoy allows me to boot straight into any of my bootable ISO files from just a single flash drive. The ISO files do not need to be extracted or mounted. Simply copying them to the flash drive is all it takes.

Ventoy also bypasses Windows 11 hardware requirements by default so, Rufus isn't needed for any of all this (and, as a matter of fact, Ventoy is partially based on Rufus). But then, my laptops already meet the Windows 11 hardware requirements anyway in the first place. So, the copy of the Windows installation ISO file that I keep on my flash drive is really nothing more than just a simple backup copy of the file, that I never use, but that could still come in handy at some point in the future maybe.

I don't use a local account. Instead, I use a Microsoft account because I no longer see the benefit of using a local account on modern Windows. Windows 7 is from 2009, but we're in 2024 now. Resistance is futile, as you have already been assimilated, like, more than a whole decade ago. :p

I don't use the Pro edition of Windows. Instead, I use the Home edition. If you have no Home, you're Homeless! I am too lazy to install Windows. So, pre-installed or go Home doesn't actually even cut it for me. Pre-installed and stay Home sounds much more like it TBH. Of course if you want to build your own custom desktop PC for whatever the reasons you might have, then sure, doing a clean install of Windows is still going to be a necessary step in the process. As for easy customizations. I already have them. So, I fail to see your point about that particular part of the subject.

Now, let's talk about problems that so many Windows users report having. For the most part, I just stay away from built-in features from Microsoft that I know are broken and/or are lacking, or are otherwise counter-productive in such a way that I can't easily find a fix or workaround. I use the combination of customizations and 3rd party apps/tools in addition to my own programming/scripting skills to avoid running into problems whenever they are possible to avoid with relative ease.

I wouldn't be able to achieve this if I hadn't invested an enormous amount of time experimenting with, and reading up on all sorts of topics related to, Windows and Windows software. I have more than 39 years of experience with software products from Microsoft. Most users don't spend nearly as much effort or time learning about the stuff.

Further, I try to avoid letting myself become overly dependent on various features if I can almost smell that these are going to be the kind of features that will most likely be withdrawn before they can grow to were they can start to add some real value for me. Microsoft is the number one champion of taking one step forward, two steps backward when it comes to making improvements to large parts of the user experience. They focus on something big, which flops, and, next, they try to undo the changes.

The end result of making these changes is that Microsoft trying to undo them causes more harm in addition to time wasted on making them in the first place. Improvements that matter to the user are given low priority status or else these improvements already are abandoned even before they even stand a reasonable chance to get carried out. Then when Microsoft finally decides to do something about some of it, what you usually get is some kind of half baked surrogate. One that, in one way or another, tries to mimic exactly that which had previously been removed/abandoned as a sacrifice, i.e., among various other sacrifices that were made in exchange for that which flopped soon after all these big promises and all these sacrifices were made.
 

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@TechnoMage2021 thanks for the good information on that. I prefer local accounts anyway which is why I always want to keep up to date with the workarounds. I think it's safe to say that Microsoft is going to be forcing people into monthly subscriptions in the future. I will always resist that. I have another laptop that will be Windows 11 pro. But this home edition is for somebody else.
 

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I'm not the MS fanboy I was back in the 90's. All this BS they're forcing on us is hard to take. Thankfully, I'm comfortable enough with Linux to kick MS to the curb if/when that time comes.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 23H2
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    Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero
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    128GB
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    NVidia RTX 4070TI Super
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    OS = Western Digital Black NVME 2TB
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I'm not the MS fanboy I was back in the 90's. All this BS they're forcing on us is hard to take. Thankfully, I'm comfortable enough with Linux to kick MS to the curb if/when that time comes.
I never was an MS fanboy. But if you make an inventory of all the BS that currently exists in Windows, and you multiply that by about 300. Then what you have is very representative of how terribad the Linux desktop experience factually is like. On desktop Linux, just to get an advanced piece of software working again after an update broke it, you have to sacrifice both arms and both legs. If you are lucky. When I say advanced, I don't mean everyday normal type stuff like browsing the internet, writing a text document that includes photos of your cat or making a shopping list so that you don't forget to buy dog food. Almost all the advanced user type stuff that I use has no equivalent on Linux or if it does, then this equivalent is still lacking at least in one way or another enough so, soon or later it turns out that it's been a waste of my time, as it just forces me to go back on Windows then.
 

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    16GB DDR5
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    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
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    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
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    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
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    3840×2160
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    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
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    Li-ion
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    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
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    Logitech K800
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    Logitech G402
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@SkyChimp
It seems to me that your question has nothing to do with this topic about switching from MS account to local account.
In this way you are taking over the thread that someone else started!

Please start your own topic for your question!
 

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    Build by vendor to my specs
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    MSI PRO B550M-P Gen3
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    Kingston FURY Beast 2x16GB DIMM DDR4 2666 CL16
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    Cooler Master Silencio S400
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    Cooler Master Hyper H412R with Be Quiet Pure Wings 2 PWM BL038 fan
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    Asus WT465 (wireless)
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    70 Mbps down / 80 Mbps up
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    Firefox 130.0
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    F-secure via Internet provider
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    Oracle VirtualBox 7 for testing software on Win 10 or 11
@SkyChimp
It seems to me that your question has nothing to do with this topic about switching from MS account to local account.
In this way you are taking over the thread that someone else started!

Please start your own topic for your question!
apologies you are right. l will do that now.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
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    Laptop
I expect a whole lot more people will convert to local accounts , especially when they push the update that will automatically encrypt your system ....

I have been told those with local accounts will be safe ? is that true?
 

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    PC/Desktop
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    self built
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    Intel I9-12900k Adler Lake
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    Gigabyte Z790 Gaming Plus AX
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    Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5
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    Realtek
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    Samsung Curved 23"
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    1920x1080
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    9 Drives total: Two 1TB M.2 SSD's, Three internal Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD's , 4 Western Digital External removable drives , 3 @ 1TB each and 1 8TB
    Cooling
    ID Cooling FX 240 Pro
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender
I expect a whole lot more people will convert to local accounts , especially when they push the update that will automatically encrypt your system ....

I have been told those with local accounts will be safe ? is that true?
The Upgrade to 24H2 will not encrypt your system. That only happens automatically for a clean install. From your link:

...your machine will be automatically encrypted after you install or reinstall the new version of Windows 11.
 

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    Windows 11 Home
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    Laptop
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    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
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    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
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    Radeon Graphics
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    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
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    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
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    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October 2021 it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update, and 24H2 on 3rd October 2024 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 24H2.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Hyper-V host machine.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Hyper-V host machine.

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