Microsoft Defender Preview

AdvancedSetup · Feb 8, 2022

Yes, this Preview is for the Business version which does have many features the built-in version does not.

Microsoft Defender for Business preview now available

Today we’re thrilled to release the Microsoft Defender for Business in preview. Read more and sign-up here!

techcommunity.microsoft.com

CornishRattler · Feb 8, 2022

AdvancedSetup said:
Yes, this Preview is for the Business version which does have many features the built-in version does not.

Microsoft Defender for Business preview now available

Today we’re thrilled to release the Microsoft Defender for Business in preview. Read more and sign-up here!

techcommunity.microsoft.com

This isn't the business version

Ghot · Feb 8, 2022

CornishRattler said:
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This isn't the business version

It might help if you posted the "link" where you found that quote.

AdvancedSetup · Feb 8, 2022

It does appear to be the Commercial version from what I can tell.

Installing Microsoft Defender Public Preview

Installing Microsoft Defender - Microsoft Support

Microsoft Defender is a new security app that helps protect you and your family across all your devices; Windows, Android, Mac, and iOS.

support.microsoft.com

Getting started with Microsoft Defender

Getting started with Microsoft Defender - Microsoft Support

Learn about getting started with the new Microsoft Defender on your personal devices including Windows, Mac, Android, and iOS.

support.microsoft.com

Why do I need Microsoft Defender for Office 365? - Microsoft Defender for Office 365

Is Microsoft Defender for Office 365 worth it? Let's find out.

docs.microsoft.com

Unless I'm mistaken I do not see any version of Defender available for Home users. It is there for Business customers though.

Compare All Microsoft 365 Plans | Microsoft

Select the Microsoft 365 plan that’s right for your home or business.

www.microsoft.com

I could be wrong but this Preview does appear to be the commercially available version to preview.

If I log in to my virtual machine it is not available at all. It cannot even be found on the MS Store. But on a physical box, it is available.

CornishRattler · Feb 8, 2022

Ghot said:
It might help if you posted the "link" where you found that quote. :)

Post #15 from @Bree I wasn't quoting anything, it clearly states in the MS Store app description that it's for 365 Family or 365 personal use

Ghot · Feb 8, 2022

CornishRattler said:
Post #15 from @Bree I wasn't quoting anything, it clearly states in the MS Store app description that it's for 365 Family or 365 personal use

Ah, that explains it. Normally I have the Store blocked in Bitdefender firewall.

DigitalGoat · Feb 8, 2022

Windows Latest has a write up on it here:
Windows 11's redesigned web-based Windows Defender is set to go live soon

AdvancedSetup · Feb 8, 2022

Thanks @DigitalGoat though that is so crazy they don't manage the names they use very well and make it so confusing.

The one currently in the STORE app is at least 8 months old and the EULA plainly says it is a Commercial use product.

Your link makes more sense, too bad Microsoft doesn't.

jvickers · Feb 8, 2022

Well, I figure if my institution thinks I need it, they'll provide it to me. Otherwise, I'm not going to concern myself with it anymore. I feel sufficiently protected with what I already have.

jimbo45 · Feb 8, 2022

Hi folks

Seems to be working here -- it's labelled as Windows 365 defender though :

I had to create a new Ms account though -- no big deal -- and will see what it actually does. BTW I have no 365 accounts (office/Azure) anywhere.

I'm running on a W11 preview release so if it all goes bonkers I don't care. Win release 22543-220122-2315

Could be the 'Biz version as I don't use the Store. Anyway I'll see what it does (if anything).

Cheers
jimbo

Bree · Feb 8, 2022

Dch48 said:
I still don't get it. Is this like the Enterprise version of Defender? Defender for businesses? It's going to require a subscription so what happens to the free Windows Defender?

That seems to be precisely it, Endpoint protection enhanced by the experiences on other subscribed machines. Nothing happens to the local Defender. It appears to provide an additional layer of protection rather than a replacement.

With the integrated Microsoft 365 Defender solution, security professionals can stitch together the threat signals that each of these products receive and determine the full scope and impact of the threat; how it entered the environment, what it's affected, and how it's currently impacting the organization. Microsoft 365 Defender takes automatic action to prevent or stop the attack and self-heal affected mailboxes, endpoints, and user identities.

What is Microsoft Defender XDR? - Microsoft Defender XDR

Microsoft Defender XDR is a coordinated threat protection solution designed to protect devices, identity, data, and applications.

docs.microsoft.com

Haydon · Feb 8, 2022

Bree said:
That seems to be precisely it, Endpoint protection enhanced by the experiences on other subscribed machines. Nothing happens to the local Defender. It appears to provide an additional layer of protection rather than a replacement.

What is Microsoft Defender XDR? - Microsoft Defender XDR

Microsoft Defender XDR is a coordinated threat protection solution designed to protect devices, identity, data, and applications.

docs.microsoft.com

Here is hoping that the "Endpoint protection enhanced by the experiences on other subscribed machines" will trickle down to home users.

Pretty well all Windows devices on my (and everyone's) LAN will receive "threat signals" > all Windows devices on the LAN would benefit from such 'enhanced Endpoint protection'. MS 365 subscription would be a small price to pay.

Somehow, I believe that MS already provides such protection for home users (with or without MS 365 subscription) albeit perhaps limited to what can be automated on an as needed basis. I seem to remember reading that the plain but cloud-assisted Defender is sensitized to regionally prevalent malware.

In any case, MS is doing good things

Dch48 · Feb 8, 2022

DigitalGoat said:
Windows Latest has a write up on it here:
Windows 11's redesigned web-based Windows Defender is set to go live soon

Okay from reading that, it's a dashboard that can check devices on Windows, IOS, Mac, and Android if those devices have it installed. They are making Defender into a cross platform malware protection system. One AV to rule them all. I never use the MyPhone app so I probably wouldn't use this either. I hope it stays optional.

Haydon · Feb 8, 2022

The dashboard with your devices on it reminded me of a Sophos app that I looked at some years ago. I did not buy it, because the general malware situation was already improving at the time and Defender was getting better, too.

But hey, if MS comes up with a free add-on to the (residential) MS 365 subscription that I already have, I would gladly use the add-on, at least to monitor my most important devices, it's nice to see all green icons in a row

Ghot · Feb 8, 2022

More info...

Microsoft Defender Preview is now available on Windows 10 and 11 - gHacks Tech News

Microsoft Defender Preview for Windows 10 and 11 is now available for download. We take a look at its features.

www.ghacks.net

glasskuter · Feb 9, 2022

Here MS goes again..with their stupid double naming conventions that cause nothing but confusion for the masses. It would be so simple to just call it Microsoft 365 Premium Security or some such and leave the word defender out of it.

CornishRattler · Feb 9, 2022

glasskuter said:
Here MS goes again..with their stupid double naming conventions that cause nothing but confusion for the masses. It would be so simple to just call it Microsoft 365 Premium Security or some such and leave the word defender out of it.

Or just Defender dashboard, that's pretty much all it is

glasskuter · Feb 9, 2022

While I'm at it there's another dumb thing no one as mentioned. (Excuse the rant. I slept late this morning and have only had 2 cups of coffee and I'm bitchy until I've had at least 4.)

In Windows settings, under Privacy & Security, it's called Windows Security. Nowhere is the word Defender used. When you expand out all the section settings, Defender is still never used.

When a definition update comes down the pike, it's called Microsoft Defender Antivirus.

When one does a search on their computer for 'defender', it takes you to firewall settings.

If that's not the most confusing thing for a novice user, I don't know what is. It's like the MS folks want the confusion. It's just plain stupid that hundreds of people who've developed it for over a year can't see it.

Edwin · Feb 9, 2022

... and yet, the folders are still called Defender, so is the scan feature...

AdvancedSetup · Feb 9, 2022

Code:

C:\>sc qc WinDefend
[SC] QueryServiceConfig SUCCESS

SERVICE_NAME: WinDefend
        TYPE               : 10  WIN32_OWN_PROCESS
        START_TYPE         : 2   AUTO_START
        ERROR_CONTROL      : 1   NORMAL
        BINARY_PATH_NAME   : "C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows Defender\Platform\4.18.2111.5-0\MsMpEng.exe"
        LOAD_ORDER_GROUP   :
        TAG                : 0
        DISPLAY_NAME       : Microsoft Defender Antivirus Service
        DEPENDENCIES       : RpcSs
        SERVICE_START_NAME : LocalSystem

C:\>sc queryex WinDefend

SERVICE_NAME: WinDefend
        TYPE               : 10  WIN32_OWN_PROCESS
        STATE              : 4  RUNNING
                                (STOPPABLE, NOT_PAUSABLE, ACCEPTS_SHUTDOWN)
        WIN32_EXIT_CODE    : 0  (0x0)
        SERVICE_EXIT_CODE  : 0  (0x0)
        CHECKPOINT         : 0x0
        WAIT_HINT          : 0x0
        PID                : 4864
        FLAGS              :

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