Microsoft's upcoming change could block off Windows 11 CPU requirements bypass on old PCs


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System One

I'm a Linux dude by trade, which means, Linux on my non work PC/laptops, and Windows 11 on my WFH PC/backup laptop machine.

All the guys who think they could just replace Windows machines, with Linux instead, does not 100% work like that.
  • Nothing is the same, as Office 365,
  • More exotic peripheral hardware, just may not have updated Linux drivers, or any Linux drivers at all,
  • I have years of experience tuning Ubuntu, Red hat, and now more recently Fedora,
  • Tried Windows VMs, on heavily spec'd machines withVMWare/ViutalBox.
My conclusions, considering the above:
  • Have Linux machines for running Linux,
  • Dedicated Windows machines for running Windows,
  • If your "unsupported machine", cannot run Win 23H2/Win 24H2 with Rufus made USB, just get an Intel 8th Gen machine, they are so cheap, life is too short to be tinkering, un-neccessarily.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Linux Ubuntu 24.04.1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 5810
    CPU
    Xeon 2680 v4
    Motherboard
    Xeon V4 Motherboard
    Memory
    64GB ECC DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GTX 1650
    PSU
    850W
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 5810
    CPU
    Xeon 2680 V4
    Motherboard
    Dell Optiplex 5810 V4
    Memory
    32GB ECC
    Graphics card(s)
    nVidia Quadro M4000
Silvio said:
I'm a Linux dude by trade, which means, Linux on my non work PC/laptops, and Windows 11 on my WFH PC/backup laptop machine.

All the guys who think they could just replace Windows machines, with Linux instead, does not 100% work like that.
  • Nothing is the same, as Office 365,
  • More exotic peripheral hardware, just may not have updated Linux drivers, or any Linux drivers at all,
  • I have years of experience tuning Ubuntu, Red hat, and now more recently Fedora,
  • Tried Windows VMs, on heavily spec'd machines withVMWare/ViutalBox.
My conclusions, considering the above:
  • Have Linux machines for running Linux,
  • Dedicated Windows machines for running Windows,
  • If your "unsupported machine", cannot run Win 23H2/Win 24H2 with Rufus made USB, just get an Intel 8th Gen machine, they are so cheap, life is too short to be tinkering, un-neccessarily.
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Been there, doing that. Main take-away, determine what wants to be done and get what is needed to do it.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro RTM
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 3400
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 11th Gen. 2.40GHz
    Memory
    12GB
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD NVMe M.2
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro RTM x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 5890
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 10th Gen. 2.90GHz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Onboard, no VGA, using a DisplayPort-to-VGA adapter
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Dell
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD NVMe, 4TB Seagate HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender/Microsoft Security
Silvio said:
  • If your "unsupported machine", cannot run Win 23H2/Win 24H2 with Rufus made USB, just get an Intel 8th Gen machine, they are so cheap, life is too short to be tinkering, un-necessarily.
Click to expand...
I agree with that statement. There are still decently fast too with most things people use a computer for. Especially when paired with an nvme. I have one set up as a plex server and another mini pc as a dedicated adobe cloud box.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5700 X3D
    Motherboard
    MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS
    Memory
    64 GB DDR4 3600mhz Gskill Ripjaws V
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 4070 Super , 12GB VRAM Asus EVO Overclock
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gigabyte M27Q (rev. 2.0) 2560 x 1440 @ 170hz HDR
    Hard Drives
    2TB Samsung nvme ssd
    2TB XPG nvme ssd
    PSU
    CORSAIR RMx SHIFT Series™ RM750x 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
    Case
    CORSAIR 3500X ARGB Mid-Tower ATX PC Case – Black
    Cooling
    ID-COOLING FROSTFLOW X 240 CPU Water Cooler
    Internet Speed
    900mbps DOWN, 100mbps UP
  • Operating System
    Chrome OS
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Chromebook
    CPU
    Intel Pentium Quad Core
    Memory
    4GB LPDDR4
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14 Inch HD SVA anti glare micro edge display
    Hard Drives
    64 GB emmc
Silvio said:
If your "unsupported machine", cannot run Win 23H2/Win 24H2 with Rufus made USB, just get an Intel 8th Gen machine, they are so cheap, life is too short to be tinkering, un-neccessarily.
Click to expand...
Some of us enjoy the challenge of pushing things above and beyond their limits, but for my least appropriate machine it's the end of the road at W11 23H2 - its CPU lacks the SSE4.2 instruction set required for 24H2. It doesn't even run Linux well, I've tried many distros and none run as well as Windows. Looks like I'll finally be pensioning it off :(
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October 2021 it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update, and 24H2 on 3rd October 2024 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 24H2.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
andrew129260 said:
I agree with that statement. There are still decently fast too with most things people use a computer for. Especially when paired with an nvme. I have one set up as a plex server and another mini pc as a dedicated adobe cloud box.
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Before joining this forum, I bought a Dell 7090 pc, with 10th gen i5 cpu, for use as WFH Win 11/Citrix machine.

I have a couple of 2018 "Win 11 unspported" Dell Precision T5810s", bought for Linux, which do have nvme BIOS support, and TPM1.2 (upgrade-able to 2.0), so decided to try Win 11 on these, via Rufus USB burn method.

Machine in question, now has 64gb mem, Xeon E5 2680 v4 CPU, old nVidia gfx card, Samsung EVO 860 1TB SSD, Win 11 23H2.
Machine runs so quick, such a pleasure to use, won't even bother migrating windows install from SSD to nvme via pcie adaptor.

Have now retired more recent, "supported" Dell 7090, and will be flogging it.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Linux Ubuntu 24.04.1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 5810
    CPU
    Xeon 2680 v4
    Motherboard
    Xeon V4 Motherboard
    Memory
    64GB ECC DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GTX 1650
    PSU
    850W
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 5810
    CPU
    Xeon 2680 V4
    Motherboard
    Dell Optiplex 5810 V4
    Memory
    32GB ECC
    Graphics card(s)
    nVidia Quadro M4000
Bree said:
Some of us enjoy the challenge of pushing things above and beyond their limits, but for my least appropriate machine it's the end of the road at W11 23H2 - its CPU lacks the SSE4.2 instruction set required for 24H2. It doesn't even run Linux well, I've tried many distros and none run as well as Windows. Looks like I'll finally be pensioning it off :(
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Even though I really don't need it (have 3x), this is what my last Dell Precision 5810 cost me..

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With a £25 cpu upgrade, this machine will run Win 23H2, ridiculously quick.
Would need fresh ISO install, for release version of Win 11 24/H2, but who cares.
Now you see why I say, just no point tinkering with Win 11 on machines, where RUFUS patched usb, still won't work.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Linux Ubuntu 24.04.1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 5810
    CPU
    Xeon 2680 v4
    Motherboard
    Xeon V4 Motherboard
    Memory
    64GB ECC DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GTX 1650
    PSU
    850W
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 5810
    CPU
    Xeon 2680 V4
    Motherboard
    Dell Optiplex 5810 V4
    Memory
    32GB ECC
    Graphics card(s)
    nVidia Quadro M4000
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