My Theory: Windows 12 Is Coming In The Form Of Selenium/25H2.


TechnoFlash7560

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Windows 11 is now almost a 4 year old OS, Windows 10 is soon to hit its final EOL date.

Microsoft always supports 2 versions of Windows concurrently (the current one + the one released prior).

Hints of a new UI style for Windows have started surfacing in different places, firstly, with Windows CPC/NXT -- the Thin Client OS that runs on the 365 Link, although it lacks a proper desktop, it is clearly noticeable it looks different from standard W11, with a much rounder and more translucent UI.

And last week, build 26120.3281 for the dev channel brought this same rounder style to full desktop Windows, although only in the Recall/Click to Do apps for now.

I have reason to believe Microsoft is going to revamp the entire Windows UI with this new cleaner, rounder style borrowed from NXT/CPC.

Moreover, Zac Bowden said 25H2 is a new platform release as opposed to only an enablement package, which is really a technical way of saying its going to be a new OS.
The visual language departure from W11 will be so large it will warrant a new brand name instead of just being called the "Windows 11 2025 Update".

Soon the Dev channel should start testing builds from the se_release development branch, which should be the same 27xxx builds now being tested on Canary, but with new user-facing features combined, most likely the first of these new builds (dropping tomorrow or next week) will already include the rounder context menus for the whole OS.


And of course, MSFT can't just keep rehashing and reusing the Windows 11 name forever. At some point users and PC manufacturers will start getting anxious for something actually new. Just imagine, 40 years from now, "Windows 11 65H2" -- no... just no....

We'll see.
 
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Windows 11 Enterprise, build 26120.3281

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    Windows 11 Enterprise, Dev Channel
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    Intel Core i5-11400
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    MSI B560M-A PRO
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I have reason to believe Microsoft is going to revamp the entire Windows UI with this new cleaner, rounder style borrowed from NXT/CPC.

What is NXT/CPC?

Any pictures?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft Surface Pro
    Memory
    16GB
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkPad
    Memory
    32GB
What is NXT/CPC?

Any pictures?
Better, here's a video on it:


Windows CPC "CloudPC" is basically a stripped down version of Windows that only serves to connect to Windows 365 Virtual Machines.
It has no desktop shell and requires Wi-Fi to work so it can log-in to a Windows 365 Cloud PC.

But my point here is the design. You see, it looks different from the Windows 11 we have to today. Its rounder.
And there is slightly more translucency to it.

Also note the OS does not call itself "Windows 11" anywhere except the installer.
Instead it calls itself "Windows WNC".
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Enterprise, Dev Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built Tower
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-11400
    Motherboard
    MSI B560M-A PRO
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT 8GB GDDR6 / Intel UHD Graphics 730
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek ALC897
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 22MP58VQ-P 21.5" IPS LED
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1x 500GB Kingston Fury Renegade PCIe Gen4x4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    Corsair CS850M 850W 80 Plus Gold
    Case
    Sharkoon M25-W Mid-Tower Case
    Cooling
    2x 240mm fans on the front, 1x 240mm fan on the back
    Keyboard
    Skiller Mechanical RGB Keyboard
    Mouse
    HP RGB Optical Mouse
    Internet Speed
    500Mbps Fiber
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
We need OS's to have as standard 10 year life span, I am only just now considering to start working on a 11 installer ISO and might migrate my PC over to it by end of 2025. Ironically I moved to 10 probably after MS had already decided to abandon it, as I joined the 10 bandwagon not long before 21H2 was released. I need Windows version at least 2 years to stabilise and be polished up before I consider using it as a daily driver.

If we consider what is exclusive to 11, most of it could have been put in 10, the radical thing was the UI change, and the shift to TPM requirements, which of course would have made hardware OEM's happy.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 10
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    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    13700k
    Motherboard
    Asrock Steel Legend D4 Z690
    Memory
    32 Gig 3200CL12
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia 4800 Super RTX
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    Creative AE9
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    LG 27GL850
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    2560x1440
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    970 EVO 1TB
    SN850X 2TB
    DC P4600 2TB
    860 EVO 1TB
    3 x 3TB WD Red
    2 x 4TB WD Red
    PSU
    Antec HCG 750 Gold
    Case
    Fractal Define R4
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15S
    Internet Speed
    1000/1000
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
Better, here's a video on it:
That's a 26100.1 Germanium release that was built on 2024-03-31 at 14:35, it says so on the screen: Build 26100.1.amd64fre.ge_release.240331-1435

1740009935874.webp

Moreover, Zac Bowden said 25H2 is a new platform release as opposed to only an enablement package, which is really a technical way of saying its going to be a new OS.
24H2 was a new platform release too...
 
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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
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    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October 2021 it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update, and 24H2 on 3rd October 2024 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 24H2.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
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    Dell Latitude E4310
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    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
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    0T6M8G
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    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
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    1366x768
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    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
That's a 26100.1 Germanium release that was built on 2024-03-31 at 14:35, it says so on the screen: Build 26100.1 amd64fre.ge_release.240331-1435

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24H2 was a new platform release too...
Yep. But this is not the final build for Windows WNC. Even the license agreements states "Confidential".
WNC is not finalized yet. Final RTM release will probably also be based on Selenium.

Fun fact: Win11 24H2 was supposed to be released as Windows 12 in 2024.
But thanks to Microsoft's new stupid "AI + Copilot everywhere" moto, they scrapped all previous plans, fired Panos Panay, and we ended up getting what we have today.

However, in my experience, every time there are big / significant UI changes (such as new icons -- remember "Windows 10" build 21382 and those new colorful file explorer icons? ), it generally means they are internally working on a new major release of the OS, and UI elements and other components of this new release end up "leaking" in Insider Builds. Finally, there are also some other significant under the hood changes showing up, such as that "MIDI 2.0 services" thing...

In this case, the significant UI change is exactly the rounder, strikingly different aesthetic for UI elements, which seem like a natural progression from what we have today in W11.

But hey, maybe I'm wrong. We'll see.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Enterprise, Dev Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built Tower
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-11400
    Motherboard
    MSI B560M-A PRO
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT 8GB GDDR6 / Intel UHD Graphics 730
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek ALC897
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 22MP58VQ-P 21.5" IPS LED
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1x 500GB Kingston Fury Renegade PCIe Gen4x4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    Corsair CS850M 850W 80 Plus Gold
    Case
    Sharkoon M25-W Mid-Tower Case
    Cooling
    2x 240mm fans on the front, 1x 240mm fan on the back
    Keyboard
    Skiller Mechanical RGB Keyboard
    Mouse
    HP RGB Optical Mouse
    Internet Speed
    500Mbps Fiber
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
Oh to be back in the days when MS just made Windows... work better.
When they tried to make it run on all hardware, rather than only on specific hardware.

Ya know... back when they actually cared and tried to be a "good" company.


 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦26100.3194 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦24H2 ♦♦♦non-Insider
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
Oh to be back in the days when MS just made Windows... work better.
When they tried to make it run on all hardware, rather than only on specific hardware.

Ya know... back when they actually cared and tried to be a "good" company.


All this AI/Copilot stuff is eventually going to flop real bad. People are not going to buy new PCs just to use those features on an OS that basically looks the same as it did 4 years ago. They'll lose a ton of money and will learn their lesson.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Enterprise, Dev Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built Tower
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-11400
    Motherboard
    MSI B560M-A PRO
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT 8GB GDDR6 / Intel UHD Graphics 730
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek ALC897
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 22MP58VQ-P 21.5" IPS LED
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1x 500GB Kingston Fury Renegade PCIe Gen4x4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    Corsair CS850M 850W 80 Plus Gold
    Case
    Sharkoon M25-W Mid-Tower Case
    Cooling
    2x 240mm fans on the front, 1x 240mm fan on the back
    Keyboard
    Skiller Mechanical RGB Keyboard
    Mouse
    HP RGB Optical Mouse
    Internet Speed
    500Mbps Fiber
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
The drama in here is dramatic.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build 22631.4890
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4 x LG 23MP75 - 2 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list.
    OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    100/40Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.4249
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics Processor
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Antivirus
    Defender / Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
This was my prediction in August last year.

So this Windows App, is also a gateway to “Windows 365”?

What’s the bet that this app ends up as the new Windows? Eventually, sometime after 12? Just a thought.

IMG_5293.webp


Windows 7 —> 8
Windows 8 —> 8.1
Windows 8.1 —> 10
Windows 10 —> 11
Windows 11 —> 12
Windows 12 —> Windows 365
Windows 365 —> 365 Windows
365 Windows —> Microsoft 365 Windows
Microsoft 365 Windows —> 36 Microsoft Windows 5
36 Microsoft Windows 5 —> ThreeSixtyFiver

The last 4 will run consecutively
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build 22631.4890
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4 x LG 23MP75 - 2 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list.
    OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    100/40Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.4249
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics Processor
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Antivirus
    Defender / Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
This was my prediction in August last year.
I'll probably switch to 180d when 365 will become a thing. Much better OS, that actually works and let the user be in control. :wink:
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 build 10.0.22631.4825 (Release Channel) / Linux Mint 22.1 Cinnamon
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo A485
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 2700U Pro
    Motherboard
    Lenovo (WiFi/BT module upgraded to Intel Wireless-AC-9260)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    iGPU Vega 10
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" FHD (built-in) + 14" Lenovo Thinkvision M14t (touch+pen) + 32" Asus PB328
    Screen Resolution
    FHD + FHD + 1440p
    Hard Drives
    Intel 660p m.2 nVME PCIe3.0 x2 512GB
    PSU
    65W
    Keyboard
    Thinkpad / Logitech MX Keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    SecureBoot: Enabled
    TPM2.0: Enabled
    AMD-V: Enabled
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 build 10.0.22631.4825(Release Preview Channel)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    i7-7700k @4.8GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus PRIME Z270-A
    Memory
    32GB 2x16GB 2133MHz CL15
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW 11GB
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" 10-bit Asus PB328Q
    Screen Resolution
    WQHD 2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB ADATA SX8000NP NVMe PCIe Gen 3 x4
    PSU
    850W
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX Keys
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Cromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    AC WiFi Card
I'll probably switch to 180d

Solid-state oscilloscope? Sounds like something intrusive used at an airport.

Too many close matches in Google search, the above was my favourite result.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build 22631.4890
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4 x LG 23MP75 - 2 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list.
    OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    100/40Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.4249
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics Processor
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Antivirus
    Defender / Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
Solid-state oscilloscope? Sounds like something intrusive used at an airport.

Too many close matches in Google search, the above was my favourite result.


Google: 180d operating system
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦26100.3194 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦24H2 ♦♦♦non-Insider
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build 22631.4890
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4 x LG 23MP75 - 2 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list.
    OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    100/40Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.4249
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics Processor
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Antivirus
    Defender / Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build 22631.4890
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4 x LG 23MP75 - 2 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list.
    OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    100/40Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.4249
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics Processor
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Antivirus
    Defender / Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦26100.3194 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦24H2 ♦♦♦non-Insider
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
eventually windows will be SaaS only. Current SaaS and Office 365 builds are just tests for the future implementations. At that time I would assume copious amounts of Windows users will switch over to Linux. Too easy to make that change now days with distros like LinuxFx (don’t use this build. Just an example) around.

EDIT:
Let me just leave this here before someone ignores my last sentence and tries to use LinuxFx. Use one of these distros instead
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
Windows 11 is now almost a 4 year old OS, Windows 10 is soon to hit its final EOL date.

Microsoft always supports 2 versions of Windows concurrently (the current one + the one released prior).

Hints of a new UI style for Windows have started surfacing in different places, firstly, with Windows CPC/NXT -- the Thin Client OS that runs on the 365 Link, although it lacks a proper desktop, it is clearly noticeable it looks different from standard W11, with a much rounder and more translucent UI.

And last week, build 26120.3281 for the dev channel brought this same rounder style to full desktop Windows, although only in the Recall/Click to Do apps for now.

I have reason to believe Microsoft is going to revamp the entire Windows UI with this new cleaner, rounder style borrowed from NXT/CPC.

Moreover, Zac Bowden said 25H2 is a new platform release as opposed to only an enablement package, which is really a technical way of saying its going to be a new OS.
The visual language departure from W11 will be so large it will warrant a new brand name instead of just being called the "Windows 11 2025 Update".

Soon the Dev channel should start testing builds from the se_release development branch, which should be the same 27xxx builds now being tested on Canary, but with new user-facing features combined, most likely the first of these new builds (dropping tomorrow or next week) will already include the rounder context menus for the whole OS.


And of course, MSFT can't just keep rehashing and reusing the Windows 11 name forever. At some point users and PC manufacturers will start getting anxious for something actually new. Just imagine, 40 years from now, "Windows 11 65H2" -- no... just no....

We'll see.
It is interesting that the Dev channel builds have moved to Beta channel, so Dev can be focussed on newer builds.
I agree it's entirely possible that 25H2 could be renamed Windows 12
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 (RP channel)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 8-core
    Motherboard
    MEG X870E Godlike
    Memory
    64GB Corsair Titanium 6000/CL30
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI Suprim X 3080 Ti
    Sound Card
    Soundblaster AE-5 Plus
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming VG289Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990 Pro 2TB
    Samsung 980 Pro 2TB
    Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB
    Samsung 870 Evo 4TB
    Samsung T7 Touch 1TB
    PSU
    Seasonic PX-2200
    Case
    Bequiet! Dark Base Pro 901
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15S
    Keyboard
    Logitech G915 X (wired)
    Mouse
    Logitech G903 with PowerPlay charger
    Internet Speed
    900Mb/sec
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
Here's the thing about crystal ball gazing - it is wrong far more often than it is right LOL.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Zenbook 14
    CPU
    I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB soldered
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop OLED screen
    Screen Resolution
    2880x1800 touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
    PSU
    Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
    Keyboard
    Built in UK keybd
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
    Internet Speed
    900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

    Macrium Reflect Home V8
    Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
    Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
It is interesting that the Dev channel builds have moved to Beta channel, so Dev can be focussed on newer builds.
I agree it's entirely possible that 25H2 could be renamed Windows 12

Other way round really. More accurately, Beta has moved from 23H2 and its new starting point is the current Dev 24H2.

As Beta and Dev are the same build, users can migrate to Beta until Dev and Beta diverge.

re. 25H2 become Windows 12, that is pure speculation.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Zenbook 14
    CPU
    I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB soldered
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop OLED screen
    Screen Resolution
    2880x1800 touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
    PSU
    Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
    Keyboard
    Built in UK keybd
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
    Internet Speed
    900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

    Macrium Reflect Home V8
    Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
    Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)

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