Solved Need an authoritative answer - what still works for UPGRADE installation of Win 11 24H2?


jimbo45 said:
OK
The iso route is the problem because often doing an upgrade via the setup.exe fails and you are left with an unbootable system.

The safest way is to again Image your current system, save the drivers etc, create a Virtual machine and restore your OS to a VM.

While using the VM the video and mouse might not be that great but if you install vmware tools on the guest or equivalent for other Virtual Machine software then that issue will be fixed. You don't need to uninstall once you've created the physical image - but you can if you want to.

Boot the VM - ignore any activation stuff, and update system via WU or whatever. This should work without any issue - and you will have all your apps / etc. Note for the VM enable sec boot etc - you can emulate a TPM if you haven't got one with most Virtual Machine software.

The advantage of update via a VM is that if it breaks etc you still have the original to "have another go".
Then restore the VM to a physical machine. Update drivers etc and you should be "good to go".

What I'd do would be to do the following to temporarily make it a Windows2Go machine by restoring to a USB device and if that boots OK, fix the registry to convert to a std machine (set the reg key PortableOperatingSystem to "1" for Window2Go, and "0" for standard OS). Before booting from the external device for the ist time install the bootloader to the external device (bcdboot.exe).

Here I'm running Windows restored from a VM to a USB external device (NVME SSD type M2via adapter->usb. I've changed the reg key back to '0' and copied to internal NVME device. Boots perfectly also on the Internal device.

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cheers
jimbo
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Okay I think that I am following you with one small exception. Remember that I was actually doing my testing on a VM and it didn't work. From my past experience it seems that if you have incompatible hardware set up usually fails very early on before it starts copying all the files to the system. But in my case the failure happens just before reboot after it has already copied all the files to the system. I will try it again this morning but this time rather than setting up the VM to be on incompatible hardware I will set it up so that the hardware is compatible and has a TPM and so forth.

Thanks so much for the idea. If that works that would be a really clever idea. The funny thing is now that you have enumerated that I recall actually seeing this idea before. It's a very possible that that was in another post from you I can't really remember. That one just completely slipped my memory bank.

I will let you know how that goes when I try it later on. Thankfully I created a checkpoint just before I started the upgrade so I'll be able to revert back to a completely clean 23H2 install and simply change the hardware settings and try it again. That won't take me more than a couple of minutes.
 

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Megahertz said:
Just made a guide to upgrade

How to upgrade from Win10 or Win 11 to Win 11 24h2 on incompatible hardware - A guide

As many of us has already found out, Win10 21h2 or Win10 22h2 or Win 11 21h2 or Win 11 22h2 or Win 11 23h2 installed on an incompatible hardware doesn't upgrade by itself to Win 11 24h2. You have to use the Repair install method or In-Place Upgrade , that is, run setup.exe from a mounted and...
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Very cool. I will definitely be trying out this idea as well.

Who says you can't teach an old dog some new tricks?
 

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jimbo45 said:
What I'd do would be to do the following to temporarily make it a Windows2Go machine by restoring to a USB device and if that boots OK, fix the registry to convert to a std machine (set the reg key PortableOperatingSystem to "1" for Window2Go, and "0" for standard OS). Before booting from the external device for the ist time install the bootloader to the external device (bcdboot.exe).
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Jimbo, you were right. As if there ever was any doubt :-).

On my VM I enabled the TPM and then the upgrade went perfectly smoothly. So apparently now adding the registry entries gets you past the initial early setup screen where it tell you that Windows cannot be installed on your system, but it then bombs right after copying all the files.

I like the WinToGo idea. Just out of curiosity, any idea what would happen if I set the PortableOperatingSystem registry on the physical machine, perform my backup and restore to a USB drive, and then change the registry entry back on the physical machine? I may give a try just for grins to see what happens.
 

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Let's talk shop, and look under the hood at three popular hacks:

MediaCreationTool.bat, depending on what version of Windows:
- tampers with appraiserres.dll (harder to do in later builds)​
- runs "setup /product server" (Server editions are not subject to HW checks)​

Rufus 4.6 for 24H2:
- borrows Enthousiast's workaround by deleting multiple reg keys, and manually inserting fake indicators that this PC has passed the compatibility requirements​
​

This only works for clean installs, including them for upgrades has no effect.
Code: 
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Setup\LabConfig]
"BypassRAMCheck"=dword:00000001
"BypassSecureBootCheck"=dword:00000001
"BypassTPMCheck"=dword:00000001

A lot of uninformed people toss all the bypass keys into one bucket, and apply them to both clean install & upgrades. Does it hurt? No, but it prevents users from truly understanding how the bypass really works.

You can convert the image's Installation Type tag from Client to Server, and now the image is implicitly a "Server Edition". Making the "/product server" argument as redundant.
This process is trivial with wimlib, but the average user isn't going to do this step. For an one-time upgrade, "setup /product server" is still easier.

github.com

ufws/alternative_bypass.md at principalis · asdcorp/ufws

UnFuck Windows Setup. Contribute to asdcorp/ufws development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com github.com
 

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hsehestedt said:
Jimbo, you were right. As if there ever was any doubt :-).

On my VM I enabled the TPM and then the upgrade went perfectly smoothly. So apparently now adding the registry entries gets you past the initial early setup screen where it tell you that Windows cannot be installed on your system, but it then bombs right after copying all the files.

I like the WinToGo idea. Just out of curiosity, any idea what would happen if I set the PortableOperatingSystem registry on the physical machine, perform my backup and restore to a USB drive, and then change the registry entry back on the physical machine? I may give a try just for grins to see what happens.
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That works too.
If the Boot bombs them just re-install the bootloader on your device via bcdboot.exe.

If the VM boots then there's no way that a physical boot of that system re-imaged from the VM should fail. I've done this zillions of times --it's essentially known as a V2P physical conversion. It's probably easier from KVM/QEMU VM on a Linux host but it also works from Windows hosts -- although it's better if you do it from inside the VM when it has a contiguous area of disk storage rather than splitting the VM storage up into multiple files.

Cheers
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SUPER EASY SOLUTION FOUND

@jimbo445, the idea of making a Windows to Go disk failed for me. I made a backup with Reflect, restored it to an SSD, booted. During the boot it bluescreened with an "inaccessible boot device". With some experimentation, I'm sure I could get that to work, but in the meantime a much easier solution.

Remember the workaround using "setup /product server" that no longer works? The following is a variation on that and it does work (courtesy of desmodder.de). I just tested it and it worked perfectly:

On the system to be upgraded, open a command prompt and run the commands below.

In the example below D: is the drive letter of the mounted Windows ISO image, DVD, thumb drive, HDD, etc. where the Windows installation files are located.

D:
cd \sources
setupprep /product server

That is all!

Reference: Windows 11 auch ohne TPM und Secure Boot installieren

Note: The above page will need to be translated from German. Scroll down to "Another variant is the setupprep.exe in the sources folder".

EDIT: I believe that I had previously applied the registry entries to bypass system requirements so that may be needed as well. I will now test with a 100% clean install of 23H2 and upgrade it. I will report back if the registry entries are needed.

EDIT #2: I just checked my registry, and I do not have the changes in there. So, the above commands will work without the need for any registry changes. That makes this an extremely easy solution that even novices will be able to implement.
 

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Will there be refreshments, while we wait? :-)
 

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Ghot said:
Will there be refreshments, while we wait? :-)
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LOL. I just added another note to that post. Verified that the registry entries are NOT needed.

Woo hoo. Very happy with this. Looks like I will just ask my friend to try the upgrade using this simple trick.
 

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hsehestedt said:
LOL. I just added another note to that post. Verified that the registry entries are NOT needed.

Woo hoo. Very happy with this. Looks like I will just ask my friend to try the upgrade using this simple trick.
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Thanks, Ghot. I do appreciate it.

Love this forum :-).
 

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    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
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    13.3-inch IPS Display
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    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
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    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
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Updated post #1 to point to post #26 for the solution.
 

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    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
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hsehestedt said:
In the example below D: is the drive letter of the mounted Windows ISO image, DVD, thumb drive, HDD, etc. where the Windows installation files are located.

D:
cd \sources
setupprep /product server

That is all!
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<full path of setup.exe file> /product server

For example: D:\setup.exe /product server

If the above command no longer works for you, then try the command below instead:

<full path of setupprep.exe file in sources folder> /product server

For example: D:\sources\setupprep.exe /product server
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro 24H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Kamrui Mini PC, Model CK10
    CPU
    Intel i5-12450H
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 2TB NVMe SSD
    1 x 4TB NVMe SSD
    1 x 4TB 2.5" SSD
    PSU
    120W "Brick"
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 Mechanical Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
garlin said:
This process is trivial with wimlib, but the average user isn't going to do this step.
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I had already made a little .cmd for wim information. Just changed two lines, not sure why anybody would want to flag only one of the images, but it is there as an option anyway
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win7,Win11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i5-8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    benq gw2480
    PSU
    bequiet pure power 11 400CM
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Operating System
    win7,win11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    pentium g5400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    1x8gb 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450
hsehestedt said:
EDIT: See post #26 in this thread for the solution. I also want to clarify that this is for systems not meeting Win 11 requirements (other than the need for CPU to support SSE4.2). For systems that meet requirements, this is obviously not needed. Just do a standard upgrade on those systems.

I know that there are literally hundreds of posts on this topic, but even following info in those posts I cannot get an upgrade installation to work. I NEVER do upgrade installs, so I pretty much just ignore posts on the topic. However, I have a friend that I will be helping so I thought that I better test this.

Here is what I tried:

I created a clean installation of Win 11 23H2 with the latest updates in a VM using Hyper-V. I purposely disabled the TPM to make sure that I fail compatibility checks.

I applied these registry settings:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\PCHC]
"UpgradeEligibility"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Setup\MoSetup]
"AllowUpgradesWithUnsupportedTPMOrCPU"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Setup\LabConfig]
"BypassRAMCheck"=dword:00000001
"BypassSecureBootCheck"=dword:00000001
"BypassTPMCheck"=dword:00000001

I next tried two different things both of which fail. I should note that networking was not enabled when I tried either of these:

1) Mount my Win 11 24H2 ISO image. Open command prompt and CD to the ISO image root. Run "setup /product server".

RESULT: This gets past the compatibility check, copies files, and just when it is about to reboot I get this:

View attachment 112004

2) Tried to simply run setup from the ISO image but get the exact same result.

Does anyone have a method that is known for sure to work?

Again, so many threads that say that setup /product server still works, but this seems not to be the case for me.
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I just in the last hour successfully upgraded a really old PC (Core i5-760, 16GB, no TPM, no UEFI, last BIOS update from 2011) from Win11 23H2 by doing this:

1) I added the AllowUpgradesWithUnsupportedTPMOrCPU registry key you have

2) I added the three LabConfig entries you have, but I also added BypassCPUCheck, BypassDiskCheck, and BypassStorageCheck for a total of 6 entries

3) I then ran "setup.exe /product server" from the 24H2 final ISO. I chose not to download updates & I chose to keep everything.

4) After the upgrade was finished, I installed the 24H2 October Patch Tuesday update.

Good luck!
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    built myself
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 10700K
    Motherboard
    MSI Z490-A Pro
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    built myself
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 6800K
    Motherboard
    Asus X99-E
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    no TPM
kjlkjadfasdfasd said:
I also added BypassCPUCheck, BypassDiskCheck, and BypassStorageCheck for a total of 6 entries
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Those entries do nothing. You can omit them. As for why the previous "setup /product server" is still working for you, I am not sure. While it would be nice to pin that down, at least we have a few things to try now. Thanks for reporting your results.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro 24H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Kamrui Mini PC, Model CK10
    CPU
    Intel i5-12450H
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 2TB NVMe SSD
    1 x 4TB NVMe SSD
    1 x 4TB 2.5" SSD
    PSU
    120W "Brick"
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 Mechanical Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
Run the .cmd as admin


serverflag0.jpg

browse to install.wim


serverflag1.jpg

Type *

then press enter


serverflag2.jpg


serverflag3.jpg
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win7,Win11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i5-8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    benq gw2480
    PSU
    bequiet pure power 11 400CM
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Operating System
    win7,win11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    pentium g5400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    1x8gb 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450
I forgot about .esd files

can browse for them now

BROWSE SELECTION.jpg
 

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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win7,Win11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i5-8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    benq gw2480
    PSU
    bequiet pure power 11 400CM
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Operating System
    win7,win11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    pentium g5400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    1x8gb 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450
garlin said:
Let's talk shop
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garlin said:
You can convert the image's Installation Type tag from Client to Server, and now the image is implicitly a "Server Edition". Making the "/product server" argument as redundant.
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Yes, let's talk shop because what you provided is extremely interesting. After reading your post I did some research, and it sounds like this should be a fairly simple task. It sounds like all I need to do is this:

mount the install.wim
open unattend.xml
find the block that looks like this:

<InstallType>
<Server>false</Server>
</InstallType>

Change the "false" to "true" and save the changed unattend.xml
Commit the changes and unmount the WIM.

The reason that I am so interested in this is that my little amateur program can already manipulate some tags for each Windows edition in a WIM and this would be a great addition to make:

Image5.jpg

Image2.jpg

Thanks for getting me that much closer!

I think I better take a breath now and resume this effort tomorrow :-)
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro 24H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Kamrui Mini PC, Model CK10
    CPU
    Intel i5-12450H
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 2TB NVMe SSD
    1 x 4TB NVMe SSD
    1 x 4TB 2.5" SSD
    PSU
    120W "Brick"
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 Mechanical Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
Okay, last post for today: Forget my entire last post. I see I'm looking at this all wrong. Will resume tomorrow. Burned out today :-)
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro 24H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Kamrui Mini PC, Model CK10
    CPU
    Intel i5-12450H
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 2TB NVMe SSD
    1 x 4TB NVMe SSD
    1 x 4TB 2.5" SSD
    PSU
    120W "Brick"
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 Mechanical Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
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