Norton Ghost


Old Nerd said:
Sorry guys if I opened up a can of 'warm worms'. Meant no harm in asking about Norton Ghost but it seems to be a hotbed of distaste to some.
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Absolutely no need for apologies. Truth will out, especially when others are attempting to spuriously defend the indefensible ... or maybe just trolling :mad:

In that case, more fool us for biting ....
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 2xH2 (latest update ... 4ever anal)
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    HP Pavillion 15
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    i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz
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    Samsung NVMe 512GB
    + numerous/multiple SSD Type C USB enclosures
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I really like what Ghost has become (System Recovery, Desktop Edition). My one problem is that the recovery media does NOT scale for different display resolutions and is completely unusable at some screen geometries. For example, on a 15.6" laptop screen with a 4K resolution it is totally unusable.

I had a support case open with Veritas for several years (literally). Every couple of weeks Veritas would provide new test versions. I finally gave up about a month or two ago and closed that support case, unresolved.

Their developers are absolute morons. The manner in which they were trying to fix it was so stupid that it stunned me that these people had jobs as developers.

YEARS! I've never experienced anything like that. My licenses to the product expires in October. I've been a licensed user since the early Ghost days renewing maintenance every year for probably at least 2 decades now, maybe even a lot longer :-)
 

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  • OS
    Win11 Pro 24H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self-built
    CPU
    Intel i7 11700K
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z590-A MB
    Memory
    64GB (Waiting for warranty replacement of another 64GB for 128GB total)
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    No GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB NVMe SSD
    1 x 2TB NVMe SSD
    1 x 4TB NVMe SSD
    3 x 512GB 2.5" SSD
    1 x 4TB 2.5" SSD
    5 x 8TB Seagate Barracuda HDD
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    Corsair HX850i
    Case
    Corsair iCUE RGB 5000X mid tower case
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    Noctua NF-S12A chromax.black.swap case fans (Qty. 7) & Home Computer Specifications, Configuration, and Usage Notes General Specifications ASUS Prime Z590-A motherboard, serial number M1M0KC222467ARP Intel Core i7-11700K CPU (11th Gen Rocket Lake / LGA 1200 Socket) 128GB Crucial Ballistix RGB DDR4 3200 MHz DRAM (4 x 32GB) Corsair iCUE RGB 5000X mid tower case Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black CPU cooler Noctua NF-S12A chromax.black.swap case fans (Qty. 7) & Corsair LL-120 RGB Fans (Qty. 3)
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 Max RGB Magnetic Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    The five 8TB drives and three 512GB SSDs are part of a DrivePool using StableBit DrivePool software. The three SSDs are devoted purely to caching for the 8TB drives. All of the important data is stored in triplicate so that I can withstand simultaneous failure of 2 disks.

    Networking: 2.5Gbps Ethernet and WiFi 6e
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    Win11 Pro 23H2
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    Laptop
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    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
On a more positive note, here is another alternative to Reflect that I like.

Active@ Disk Image. Windows and Servers Backup Software for Windows

Active@ Disk Image can do a backup and clone the full hard drive.
www.disk-image.com www.disk-image.com

The one thing that held this back was no support for volumes with BitLocker, but they finally resolved that in this latest major release.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro 24H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self-built
    CPU
    Intel i7 11700K
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z590-A MB
    Memory
    64GB (Waiting for warranty replacement of another 64GB for 128GB total)
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB NVMe SSD
    1 x 2TB NVMe SSD
    1 x 4TB NVMe SSD
    3 x 512GB 2.5" SSD
    1 x 4TB 2.5" SSD
    5 x 8TB Seagate Barracuda HDD
    PSU
    Corsair HX850i
    Case
    Corsair iCUE RGB 5000X mid tower case
    Cooling
    Noctua NF-S12A chromax.black.swap case fans (Qty. 7) & Home Computer Specifications, Configuration, and Usage Notes General Specifications ASUS Prime Z590-A motherboard, serial number M1M0KC222467ARP Intel Core i7-11700K CPU (11th Gen Rocket Lake / LGA 1200 Socket) 128GB Crucial Ballistix RGB DDR4 3200 MHz DRAM (4 x 32GB) Corsair iCUE RGB 5000X mid tower case Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black CPU cooler Noctua NF-S12A chromax.black.swap case fans (Qty. 7) & Corsair LL-120 RGB Fans (Qty. 3)
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 Max RGB Magnetic Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    The five 8TB drives and three 512GB SSDs are part of a DrivePool using StableBit DrivePool software. The three SSDs are devoted purely to caching for the 8TB drives. All of the important data is stored in triplicate so that I can withstand simultaneous failure of 2 disks.

    Networking: 2.5Gbps Ethernet and WiFi 6e
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
TechnoMage2021 said:
If you liked the simplicity of Ghost, you'll love what "Broadcom" has done with it.

They took the last DOS version of Ghost, "Ghost 11.5" and added it to a Windows 10 Shell, and set it up on a Bootable ISO which you can burn to either a Flash Drive or CD. I have it on both.
I use it from a Flash Drive, almost daily among my ten PC's.

I just stumbled onto it one day while surfing the web. If you want a link to the download, PM me.
TM :cool:
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I too have been using the DOS version of Ghost since the 90's. On a floppy disk, on a cd, now on usb. Works for me ;-)
 

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    Windows 11 Professional 24H2
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Thinkpad T480
    CPU
    Intel i5 8th Gen
DennisG said:
I too have been using the DOS version of Ghost since the 90's. On a floppy disk, on a cd, now on usb. Works for me ;-)
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Atta Boy!
The original Ghost, DOS version, was so far ahead of the old MS Backup, that I couldn't even believe it was created on the planet Earth.
Alien.gif I did it!

After Symantec bought it, they tried to "Improve" it, by making it work from within Windows. If anyone says "it didn't work for me" I just wonder if it were not that Windows version that they are referring to. ??? I tried that version, of course, and found it full of pitfalls, and went right back to the older and 100% reliable DOS version. I still have that DOS version, on Floppy Disk, SD Memory Card, CD, and finally a Flash Drive, which I use today. (Actually, multiple Flash Drives, with both the DOS version, and the Broadcom version)
* The only thing that Symantec did to the old DOS version of Ghost, to make it better, was to make it compatible with NTFS formats. Since then Ghost 11.5 has been the favored version, for myself and many old Ghost users.

One huge problem with the Windows version, was, "How can you do a Ghost Restore from Windows, when the HD has gone up in Smoke?"
You still need the Restore program on some boot-able media, so you can restore to a Blank HD/SSD. I never liked that option.
Over the years, I've dealt with that scenario several times.

One little addition to Ghost is the "Ghost Explorer" program. It runs within Windows, and allows me to find a file in an old Ghost Backup Image, and restore it. I've only used that a couple of times, over the years, but it's really neat, when I've needed to restore just one file, that has gotten corrupted or lost.

I'm done here.
Y'all have a great 2024,
TM :cool:
 

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