Solved Optiplex Not qualified for windows update ? huh what ?

ShamrockRig · Apr 4, 2024

LASTBOOMER66 said:
I am glad to hear there are workarounds. Many home users do not have a need for TPM and probably will cause people to loose access to their pcs and their data. TPM as so terribly complex and so is encryption of data. I read about it a lot and try to grasp it. Maybe I will wait for TPM 3 ? GPT and UEFI When it comes to keeping my personal computers running at their best these things only complicate everything. ! If its a PC in a public place for sure ya its best.

They do now, as it either lets you use windows 11 or is the reason you can't :) Everyone about to have a use for it!

Bree · Apr 4, 2024

BobOmb said:
I didnt see the new CPU requirement prior to my previous post..

I’m guessing disabling CPU checks does nothing?

Most CPUs since 2009 will have the PopCnt instruction required for 24H2.
To check your CPU see post #25 here: Microsoft's upcoming change could block off Windows 11 CPU requirements bypass on old PCs

DennyZenny · Apr 4, 2024

jimbo45 said:
Install via dism /Apply-Image and bcdboot to install the bootloader

I'm running quite happily on an HP envy laptop around 6 to 7 years old with Intel i5 Gen 6 processor in it.

Cheers
jimbo

Cool to see other people running Windows 11 smoothly even on unsupported hardware. I'm also running 23h2 on my 2010 Athlon II X2 220 (System Two Specs) with no issues apart from a weird bug that makes File Explorer's WinUI menu bar, and the desktop's right click menu blank sometimes.

RJARRRPCGP · Apr 5, 2024

Bree said:
Most CPUs since 2009 will have the PopCnt instruction required for 24H2.
To check your CPU see post #25 here: Microsoft's upcoming change could block off Windows 11 CPU requirements bypass on old PCs

I have a Wolfdale E8600 that was actually made in 2009, (late-production-run) but that won't be any different than the early-45nm chips before first-gen Core i, IIRC. The earliest I would expect with legacy-BIOS, if even possible, I suspect would be my Core i7 Extreme 965. (Bloomfield, 45nm, first-gen Core i7) The AMI-BIOS in socket 1366, looks just like late-socket-775.
At least what my socket 1366 system has, for the BIOS, does have issues with video cards, I suspect anything past Radeon R9 series and GeForce GTX 980 series. It certainly seems to hate my RX 580! Even when it boots and can game with it. Also, driver installation goes fine. It's an issue where when later cards are installed, then the BIOS only saves settings to RAM, LOL. If I unplug the PC, it's all reset!

jimbo45 · Apr 6, 2024

RJARRRPCGP said:
I have a Wolfdale E8600 that was actually made in 2009, (late-production-run) but that won't be any different than the early-45nm chips before first-gen Core i, IIRC. The earliest I would expect with legacy-BIOS, if even possible, I suspect would be my Core i7 Extreme 965. (Bloomfield, 45nm, first-gen Core i7) The AMI-BIOS in socket 1366, looks just like late-socket-775.
At least what my socket 1366 system has, for the BIOS, does have issues with video cards, I suspect anything past Radeon R9 series and GeForce GTX 980 series. It certainly seems to hate my RX 580! Even when it boots and can game with it. Also, driver installation goes fine. It's an issue where when later cards are installed, then the BIOS only saves settings to RAM, LOL. If I unplug the PC, it's all reset!

Future VM software will have the ability to emulate those type of CPU instructions -- maybe at the cost of some performance. Microsoft isn't going to chop 100,000's or even millions of VM users around the globe both domestically and business from running Windows as VM's.It itself tests a load as VM's.

Cheers
jimbo

spapakons · May 3, 2024

I read recently that Microsoft complains about the small user base of Windows 11 compared to the user base of Windows 10. All they have to do is drop these stupid hardware restrictions and officially let any 64-bit PC run Windows 11 without any need for workarounds. Then the Windows 11 user base should surpass the Windows 10 user base.

Berton · May 3, 2024

Not much has really changed since @jimbo45's post nearly a month ago except for the really old computers, I have 2 Notebooks from 2014 running Win11 Version 23H2 without issue, speed not much different from previous Win10 on them.

spapakons · May 3, 2024

Berton said:
Not much has really changed since @jimbo45's post nearly a month ago except for the really old computers, I have 2 Notebooks from 2014 running Win11 Version 23H2 without issue, speed not much different from previous Win10 on them.

As I have said elsewhere, Windows 11 and Windows 10 64-bit should have the same performance with the same drivers, same applications and same configuration. Windows 11 is practically Windows 10 with a new skin and of course some new features. Much like Windows 98 was almost like Windows 95 with a newer skin and new features.