Some *web* pages not displaying fonts correctly: at a loss here

abactuon said:

Refresh rate corresponds to the expected value?
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Not exactly. This is what mine looks like:

If you have a laptop, you can use Intel for the browser instead of Nvidia.

I would think the refresh rate should be 60 but check the manual for your monitor.

I had a similar problem back in Oct but my fonts were pixelated in explorer rather than my browser. You might see if any of the solutions in that thread would help you. There are quite a few suggestions and I posted what fixed it for me at the end.
Does anyone else have problems with grainy pixelated fonts in explorer in light mode?

glasskuter said:

I had a similar problem back in Oct but my fonts were pixelated in explorer rather than my browser. You might see if any of the solutions in that thread would help you. There are quite a few suggestions and I posted what fixed it for me at the end.
Does anyone else have problems with grainy pixelated fonts in explorer in light mode?

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Thanks. I had already tried making these adjustments previously.

My latest experience once again reinforces my belief that Windows "repair" and upgrading has little effect on fixing most issues with the previous version of Windows.

Suggestions like spending (wasting) time in running malware scans, uninstalling and reinstalling applications, drivers et al rarely have worked in my experience.

From what I understand, a Windows repair is the same as reinstalling Windows. In situations like mine where the IT gurus at work all said the same thing: don't spend too much time trying to resolve the issue. Just wipe your drive and start fresh and clean. And because I have an OEM factory image, the process should require minimal effort. Reinstalling your applications on the other hand will be time-consuming

At the end of the day, I appreciate everyone's willingness to help, but the final outcome here is to restore my OEM factory image of my laptop. The first thing I will do afterwards is try the problematic websites. I don't want to mess around with nuances of OEM drivers and applications. If everything is fine at this point, I will upgrade to W11. I will install only one application at a time and check after a few days the same sites.

My takeaway here is don't install Windows tweaks that have been mentioned in this forum or elsewhere like re-adding the old Windows photoviewer, adding Recent items, Recent folders to your Quick Access, old Windows Start menu, and 8 Gadgets.

Nonetheless, I remain incredibly baffled why a heavily modified version of Firefox like TorBrowser or an existing FF browser (modified by my IT gurus at work) work just fine, but not standard (vanilla) versions of Chromium and FF browsers.

glasskuter said:

I would think the refresh rate should be 60 but check the manual for your monitor.

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Yes, I switched to "75" for smoother media.

abactuon said:

If you have a laptop, you can use Intel for the browser instead of Nvidia.

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Correct. In "laptop" mode it will use the Intel, when connected to an external display it will use NVIDiA. But using Intel defeats the purpose of a 4GB video card.

Sammy888 said:

Correct. In "laptop" mode it will use the Intel, when connected to an external display it will use NVIDiA. But using Intel defeats the purpose of a 4GB video card.

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Can you post the link to the lousy looking web site?

sdowney717 said:

Can you post the link to the lousy looking web site?

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There are several of these 'lousy" websites, here are just a few:
Regardless of browser (FF or Chromium) these two font families are the problem. However, if I disabled them (by unclicking) they are fine. My system for whatever reason is blocking the files. I also added Arial and deleted Helvetica, the display is fine.

In the past browsers used other methods of rendering text.
You can try Palemon, it's built on the old Firefox code base. Maybe it will be better, maybe not.

glasskuter said:

How to fix corrupted Fonts in Windows 11/10

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Been there, done that. The Arial font is a system file and I can't uninstall it and reinstall it.

abactuon said:

In the past browsers used other methods of rendering text.
You can try Palemon, it's built on the old Firefox code base. Maybe it will be better, maybe not.

The Pale Moon Project homepage

Pale Moon is an Open Source, Mozilla-derived web browser available for Microsoft Windows and Linux, focusing on efficiency and ease of use.

www.palemoon.org

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Palemon works!! Thank you.

Unfortunately, none of the other Chromium based and Firefox browsers do.

Sammy888 said:

There are several of these 'lousy" websites, here are just a few:

GCKey - Enabled Services

English description / Description en anglais

clegc-gckey.gc.ca

The best laptops you can get

Apple, Asus, HP, and more.

www.theverge.com

Regardless of browser (FF or Chromium) these two font families are the problem. However, if I disabled them (by unclicking) they are fine. My system for whatever reason is blocking the files. I also added Arial and deleted Helvetica, the display is fine.

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Both sites look good on my PC
Sorry about your messed up fonts
Can an undamaged font be copied into the font folder, and delete the damaged font file?
You might have to boot a live usb of linux to do that, dont know.

When the system prevents file changes, use a different OS to force the change

You can use Ventoy to easily boot an iso of linux, perhaps linux mint, Ubuntu or another one.
It will boot as a live usb. And most linux versions have a try it before install it option.
Some versions of linux can do it, and some live usb linux versions may block access to the c drive, but I have done this before, so I know it can work. ALL linux versions give full drives access after an install, in which case the PC would be dual bootable to either linux or windows.

Get a good copy of the font file, download it off some web storage place, delete the font in windows and copy in a good file

You can join a linux forum and ask about this.

other possibility is pull the drive and stick in another PC and work on the files.
Dont know if windows OS host would block file changes then on another copy of a non running windows.
But you could do it with a linux host OS no problem, and you would not have to install linux on the same machine.

Other possibility take a linux installed on a different drive and put that drive in the PC and boot from it.

Thanks for the suggestions.

I'll just "blow up" my Windows 11 and install it from scratch. It will take less effort for me than booting and using Linux.

Sammy888 said:

Thanks for the suggestions.

I'll just "blow up" my Windows 11 and install it from scratch. It will take less effort for me than booting and using Linux.

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Did you run SFC?
And cant you do an upgrade install and keep all your files?
That will just overwrite all the OS files, and it will be easy and fast.
I dont know if 'blow up' means blanking the drive

sdowney717 said:

Did you run SFC?
And cant you do an upgrade install and keep all your files?
That will just overwrite all the OS files, and it will be easy and fast.
I dont know if 'blow up' means blanking the drive

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Yes, I did everything humanly possible within Windows itself. Including SFC and DISM.

As mentioned earlier, I upgraded from W10 to W11 and that didn't override the files which only a new (clean) installation (not upgrade) with full format (blowing up Win11). And the issue seems to be progressively becoming worse. Even my Windows Settings display no longer appear to be crisp. They are starting to ghost, but only within the Settings "module".

I believe in situations like mine. Time, and effort is best spent to perform a reformat (not quick) and install Windows fresh (no Windows backup, no Acronis backup). Reinstall Windows from scratch to ensure the cleanest install possible. Examine the problematic Windows settings and websites. And install applications one by one, but create a restore point before installation of the applications, test, and repeat.

Sammy888 said:

Yes, I did everything humanly possible within Windows itself. Including SFC and DISM.

As mentioned earlier, I upgraded from W10 to W11 and that didn't override the files which only a new (clean) installation (not upgrade) with full format (blowing up Win11). And the issue seems to be progressively becoming worse. Even my Windows Settings display no longer appear to be crisp. They are starting to ghost, but only within the Settings "module".

I believe in situations like mine. Time, and effort is best spent to perform a reformat (not quick) and install Windows fresh (no Windows backup, no Acronis backup). Reinstall Windows from scratch to ensure the cleanest install possible. Examine the problematic Windows settings and websites. And install applications one by one, but create a restore point before installation of the applications, test, and repeat.

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What a STRANGE experience to have, I wonder if you have an unknown disease afflicting your system. I hope that fixes things. I have also heard of malware being found in firmware of devices...firmware that is written is software stored on all sorts of computer components, like a reservoir of malware that can not be eliminated, unless the hardware is removed. Can also be present on a thumb drive. People opening an email.

If a fresh format and install and problem still comes back, I would first start with getting a new SSD and go from there, trying different things.
If you can run the MCT for windows on a good working PC, do it. Try not to involve your current OS at all.

I once wrote a program that had code payloads embedded in jpeg files. Simply is, you can insert code in a picture, and have that code run on your PC unawares. I did it as a way of controlling the software distribution. It is covert and few will notice. The picture file will be much bigger depending on how much code has been inserted, but then people don't usually pay attention to it and why would they.
The whole point of being stealthy is to not cause a user to experience a problem. So I suppose bad malware is badly written. Personally I think we are tracked and botted and affected today so much more than ever before, and most wont notice a few cycles of wasted CPU used up as today's machines power is so much greater and greater over time.

My software was not for nefarious purpose, I was protecting it from simply being installed willy nilly on any machine and having it function without being paid for.

Try to block untrusted fonts, disable Fonts cache service.