Time and Language Sync Clock Time with Internet Time Server in Windows 11

jraju · Oct 31, 2022

why isp is blocking time windows com is puzzling me.
What is to be seen in router. Should I give special inbound and outbound access to port 123 in router. Will try giving the rule in windows firewall

jraju · Oct 31, 2022

I tried to give inbound and access to windows firewall. But still time sync is not working

BobD · Oct 31, 2022

jraju said:
I tried to give inbound and access to windows firewall. But still time sync is not working

If I recall correctly, in one of your earlier posts you mentioned McAfee. Is that working as a firewall? Could it be blocking your time sync?

jraju · Oct 31, 2022

hi, bobd, It is bundled with in dell computer. But you see, I checked to allow the 123 port traffic in my picture above portno123 in this post It overrides windows firewall.

jraju · Nov 4, 2022

Using netsh command, after enabling the inbound and outbound traffic thro 123 port, the result is thus captured
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C:\Windows\system32>netsh firewall show state

Firewall status:
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Profile = Standard
Operational mode = Enable
Exception mode = Enable
Multicast/broadcast response mode = Enable
Notification mode = Enable
Group policy version = Windows Firewall
Remote admin mode = Disable

Ports currently open on all network interfaces:
Port Protocol Version Program
-------------------------------------------------------------------
123 UDP Any (null)

IMPORTANT: Command executed successfully.
However, "netsh firewall" is deprecated;
use "netsh advfirewall firewall" instead.
For more information on using "netsh advfirewall firewall" commands
instead of "netsh firewall", see KB article 947709
at Use netsh advfirewall firewall context - Windows Server .

C:\Windows\system32>
From the results it is seen that this port is not blocked by my ISP. Am I correct

Of course, this I enabled in one of the other pc and tried sync, it is failing with the same error.

what could be then preventing this sync.

BobD · Nov 4, 2022

The way I see it you are being blocked by your router or your ISP is blocking that port. See what others think.

jraju · Nov 5, 2022

How do you see that my router is blocking that port. Is there any way to check if that port is blocked or not, bobd

BobD · Nov 6, 2022

You have to list the devices that form part of the pathway to the time server.
I see Windows 11, a firewall, the router, the ISP, the internet path to the time server, and the time servers.

1) Do I recall correctly that in another thread you indicate that you had a second machine failing similarly. If this is true then it would be unlikely for two machines to both say they cannot communicate and it would be a windows problem. That would require both machines to be identically stuffed.

2) If number 1 is true and both machines are failing similarly then you probably need to look elsewhere for your problem. You have tried multiple time servers and none work so they are unlikely to be the problem. You say the problem is not your firewall then that leaves a router and your ISP as the most likely problems.

Given that we know nothing about either then we can't help much with those.

This is obviously not a simple problem else it would be solved by now. I note that many people have offered advice but you have not followed that advice or not reported back on it. What happens then is that people lose interest and abandon the thread. Even worse is that one of those suggestions might be your solution. Several people have suggested the use of third party NTP clock setting programs. You haven't reported back on those suggestions. It would also be a good idea to post only in one thread because not every person sees both threads.

If you think the problem is related to your router then you might get more specialist help at Small Net Builder Forums. However, you might have to disclose the brand and model of your router / modem and who your ISP is.

garlin · Nov 6, 2022

Like I suggested before, ask a friend or neighbor who uses the same ISP. If they have no issues, the problem lies somewhere inside your residence (PC, router).

jraju · Nov 6, 2022

Hi, Bobd, I have followed all the advises given by forum members . One has suggested, time sync software. That does not fix because, I had to open and see the sync time success in the software. So, I had to open the program on every occasion to if the time sync took correctly.
Regarding your ideas to look in to router settings, I find some port forwarding settings that configured a single port 113. There is a provision to add ports but again, I do not know, which ip is to given in one field. When I put my router's page, I get error that this ip is your modem ip. Please input a valid Lan ip. So, there it stops and I am continuing to how to know the ip for the port.
I have already tried all the troubleshooting and still I am not getting my time sync correctly.
I will make trials and errors to achieve this .

jraju · Nov 13, 2022

Hi, Brink, I have re synced my time successfully after a lot of trials and fixes .
I will give the best source , where microsoft articles and knowledge bases and their workaround.
I also give the link of a blog, whose instructions have solved this vexed problem.
I do not know if we need to add any rules for this.
But , the private link really solved my problem.
the link is given below

NTP Configuration for Time Sync

NTP Configuration for time sync

suddhaman.blogspot.com

here you find configuration of ntp server both domain and client or stand alone .
The first clue is
configure your ntp server with ntp server ip address rather than its name.
This makes changes immediately in the registry and it syncs successfully even though the error appears in internet time tab settings as error.
There is no error showing in settings time and date settings .
I value his article, where he mentions about ip address of ntp server.
I just went to google ntp servers and choosse the ip of time.google.com .
When ever I go to settings to check, it gives the time synced at the time of start.
The microsoft article link is given below

W32time settings fail when starting Windows Time Service - Windows Server

Fixes an issue where the NTP client doesn't synchronize time at the SpecialPollInterval period as expected.

learn.microsoft.com

How the Windows Time Service Works

Learn more about: How the Windows Time Service Works

learn.microsoft.com

Thanks for all who provided suggestion and answers.
It took a lot of time to find a workable solutions.
Brink, If you find the solution to be useful, you could add in your 1st page of the tutorial.
A sub query: Is it risky to time sync with ntp server, because, I read in some article, that it is a source for ddos attack on router.
Second query: is it correct to configure ntp server thro its ip address, which I have used.
Expecting reply from brink and others

gnulab · Nov 14, 2022

AFAIK you should be able to sync time using address and not IP address.

I always change (via control panel) the address of the time server. Previously I would just use id.pool.ntp.org (which ID = Indonesia), so you could just replace that with the country TLD, example would be au.pool.ntp.org for Australia NTP servers.

However, now I would use time.cloudflare.com. time.google.com is equally good too, I'd say better than time.windows.com

jraju · Nov 16, 2022

But I tried and got error messages as instructed in tutorial timed out error or peer is unreachable or windows did not resync because the time data was not available .
When I used the ip, it did not proper any error and correctly sync.
So, I have given the link from the blog .
I tried many times.
I mean not only IP but also the command in the link for stand alone computer.
May be other syntax words in the link could have fixed with ip address

jraju · Nov 23, 2022

Hi, all, now some days have gone and I have been outside. I checked today and the time is syncing correctly now.
I used this formula from the first link given above in my post 31,
w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:"xx.xx.xx.xx,0x1" /syncfromflags:manual /reliable:yes /update
This formula have saved me from time sync error. . Instead of ntp server physical address, I used ip and the formula.
This is working without fail. The other things in the formula also helps to change some registry entries to correctly sync the time.
Hi, Brink, my friend, I want your comment on this .

Brink · Nov 23, 2022

jraju said:
Hi, all, now some days have gone and I have been outside. I checked today and the time is syncing correctly now.
I used this formula from the first link given above in my post 31,
w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:"xx.xx.xx.xx,0x1" /syncfromflags:manual /reliable:yes /update
This formula have saved me from time sync error. . Instead of ntp server physical address, I used ip and the formula.
This is working without fail. The other things in the formula also helps to change some registry entries to correctly sync the time.
Hi, Brink, my friend, I want your comment on this .

Great news that manually specifying the time server works for you.

jraju · Nov 24, 2022

Hi, Brink, I am not applying the formula daily to sync. Once I did, and the time sync was successful for successive days.
It is great of you to remember me .
Could you give the technical details of the above command, so that I could understand the formula better.

Brink · Nov 24, 2022

jraju said:
Hi, Brink, I am not applying the formula daily to sync. Once I did, and the time sync was successful for successive days.
It is great of you to remember me .
Could you give the technical details of the above command, so that I could understand the formula better.

Here's the command reference below from Microsoft to help.

W32tm

learn.microsoft.com

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