System Stuttering Doing My Head In


swerd

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Hi everyone,

I am having a frustrating problem with my installation. I did a fresh install about a month and a half ago.

After a few hours of uptime, my PC stutters really severely if I open a random app.

I turned off my router and restored from a previous build, then disabled internet access in that build, and it seems to work fine. However, as soon as I connected to the internet, it starts to happen, so I thought it was probably an AV update issue.

Firefox works fine, for some reason.

I thought I solved it by removing my paid AV (BitDefender), but I was wrong.

Can anyone help? I don't know what to do.
 
Windows Build/Version
26100.3476

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5800X3D
    Motherboard
    Asus TUF Gaming X570-Pro WiFi II
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC897 @ AMD K19.2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AOC U34G2G4R3 [34" LCD]
    Screen Resolution
    3440x1440
    Hard Drives
    NVMe Samsung SSD 970 x 2
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    4TB ST4000DM004-2CV104
    PSU
    750W Coolermaster V Series V750 80 Plus Gold
    Case
    Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 D-RGB Tempered Glass Full Tower Black
    Internet Speed
    250Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox / Chrome / Edge / Vivaldi
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total Security
What exactly do you mean by 'Stutters'?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    WIN 11 Pro 24H2 - 26100.3323
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Build
    CPU
    Intel XEON E5-2699 v3
    Motherboard
    ASUS X99-A
    Memory
    64GB Teamgroup UD4-3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ACER X34 Predator
    Screen Resolution
    3440 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    Crucial CT1000P 3P SSD8 1TB
    Crucial CT1000 BX500 SSD 1TB
    PSU
    GameMax Pro
    Case
    Fractal Design
    Cooling
    Corsair H110iGT + 6 140mm Fans
    Keyboard
    Corsair K4
    Mouse
    G-Skill G502
    Internet Speed
    50MBs
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    OEM

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5800X3D
    Motherboard
    Asus TUF Gaming X570-Pro WiFi II
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC897 @ AMD K19.2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AOC U34G2G4R3 [34" LCD]
    Screen Resolution
    3440x1440
    Hard Drives
    NVMe Samsung SSD 970 x 2
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    4TB ST4000DM004-2CV104
    PSU
    750W Coolermaster V Series V750 80 Plus Gold
    Case
    Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 D-RGB Tempered Glass Full Tower Black
    Internet Speed
    250Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox / Chrome / Edge / Vivaldi
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total Security
How do I block *automatic* updates? Can anyone help? I don't want to block all updates; just stop automatic updates to let me choose what to install. For this I mean things like Defender updates, etc.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5800X3D
    Motherboard
    Asus TUF Gaming X570-Pro WiFi II
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC897 @ AMD K19.2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AOC U34G2G4R3 [34" LCD]
    Screen Resolution
    3440x1440
    Hard Drives
    NVMe Samsung SSD 970 x 2
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    4TB ST4000DM004-2CV104
    PSU
    750W Coolermaster V Series V750 80 Plus Gold
    Case
    Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 D-RGB Tempered Glass Full Tower Black
    Internet Speed
    250Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox / Chrome / Edge / Vivaldi
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total Security
I have tried

- Disabling Windows Update automatic downloads
- Disabling Defender
- Turning off Microsoft Store updates

all in group policy.

No joy. Can someone help?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5800X3D
    Motherboard
    Asus TUF Gaming X570-Pro WiFi II
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC897 @ AMD K19.2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AOC U34G2G4R3 [34" LCD]
    Screen Resolution
    3440x1440
    Hard Drives
    NVMe Samsung SSD 970 x 2
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    4TB ST4000DM004-2CV104
    PSU
    750W Coolermaster V Series V750 80 Plus Gold
    Case
    Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 D-RGB Tempered Glass Full Tower Black
    Internet Speed
    250Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox / Chrome / Edge / Vivaldi
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total Security
Instead of randomly turning off features randomly, why not run something like Task Manager / process explorer and try see what's actually going on..

Process Explorer - Sysinternals
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Ryzen 5 5800X
    Motherboard
    Asus B550 Strix gaming
    Memory
    32Gb Corsair 3200
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte RTX3060 12Gb
    Screen Resolution
    2x 1440, 1x 1080
Why would you think this is a windows update issue? I agree with Aramil. Randomly disabling features is not the way to solve the problem.

1. Test that it's not software conflict using clean boot. . If it doesn't happen in a clean boot, you have some software conflicting with Windows. Brink's procedure will help you weed out which one. Perform a Clean Boot in Windows 11 to Troubleshoot Software Conflicts Tutorial

2. Try another mouse, preferably a wired one.

3. Try another usb port for your mouse. If it's currently plugged into a back port, move it to a front port.

I had a similar issue just last week when I plugged in an eternal hard drive into the port next to my cordless mouse receiver. I thought it was a problem with the drive but turned out to be a problem with the mouse receiver.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.3194
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme+256gb SKHynix m.2 nvme /External drives 512gb Samsung m.2 sata+1tb Kingston m2.nvme+ 4gb Solidigm nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    #1 Edge #2 Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
I had a similar problem last week. It was something to do with the Logitech Bolt mouse and keyboard USB dongle. I took it out and moved it to another USB port and it has worked smoothly ever since.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.3194
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Local shop built (KC Computers Ltd)
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 13900F
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z690 Gaming X (rev. 1.0/1.1) - (BIOS: F30 Sep 27, 2024)
    Memory
    2 x Kingston Fury 32gb DDR5 5600 Beast
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte Eagle (Nvidia) RTX 3060
    Sound Card
    Chord Async USB 44.1kHz - 384kHz 2Qute DAC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    piXL PX27UDH4K 27 Inch Frameless IPS Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    4K (3840 x 2160) 60fps
    Hard Drives
    1 x KINGSTON NVMe M.2 SSDSKC3000D2048G 2TB
    1 x Samsung SSD 870 EVO 250GB
    2 x Crucial CT4000MX500SSD1 4TB
    2 x Crucial CT2000MX500SSD1 2TB
    1 x Crucial CT250MX500SSD1 250.0 GB
    PSU
    Gigabyte 750w
    Case
    Fractal Torrent
    Cooling
    Stock Intel CPU, 2 x Fractal 180mm PWM (front), 3 x Fractal 140mm PWM (bottom)
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX Mechanical Wireless Illuminated Performance Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S Wireless Performance Mouse
    Internet Speed
    900 Mbps/300 Mbps Trooli FTTP
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Eset Nod32
Yeah. look at mouse drivers if you added any and remove them. Your computer does not list mouse type or keyboard type. anything logitech is fine w stock ms drivers - look in control panel/mouse to set things.
NOT an update problem.
NOT a BD problem.
USB related issue (look for other HID (human interface device) 's
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    win 11Pro 24H2 current
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY
    CPU
    I9-13900k
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG STRIX Z790-E Gam wifi-6E, latest AMI BIOS 2801
    Memory
    G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32GB Kit DDR5 6000. 6000.
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX™ 3060 Ti VISION OC 8G (rev. 2.0)
    Sound Card
    "Realtek USB Audio", ROG SupremeFX 7.1 Surround Sound High Definition Audio CODEC ALC4080, Bose Computer Music Monitor/ Desktop Computer Speakers
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell S3221QS
    Screen Resolution
    4K but I usually display at 1K
    Hard Drives
    Sam 980 Pro 1T M.2, 990Pro, WD 570, others(all NVMe)
    PSU
    Corsair RM750e fully modular
    Case
    CoolerMaster TD500 mesh white case
    Cooling
    CPU:Thermalright aio A-E-360 V4 TOP(Thermalright anti-bend plate), CASE:3 front fans IN, 1 back fan OUT.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K55 Core RGB
    Mouse
    Corsair Harpoon RGB wireless
    Internet Speed
    220Mbs Starry I226-V
    Browser
    Firefox current, Tab center Reborn, etc etc etc.
    Antivirus
    BitDefender AV Free
    Other Info
    WuMgr, StartAllBack, Terabyte Image for Win, Revo Uninstaller Pro Portable.
    Time Spy Extreme 6239, VRMark Orange Room 16430, etc.
    Been doing computers since '62(IBM 7070/4(just missed their 650!!!). Managed a bunch of 360's. My first PC I think was one of the RS puters (I tried them all), a commodore, an IBM PC w DOS 3.11, and others mainly DIY (COMPUTER SHOPPER!!!) w 95, 98, xp, vista, me, 7!!!, 8, 10!!!, 11.
    I use Wondershare Filmora Basic to process my vlogs. Pocket 2
  • Operating System
    win 10, Mint
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo P15s
    CPU
    i7-10510U 1.8-4.9GHz
    Motherboard
    Intel SoC
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia Quadro P520 2GB DDR5 supports 4K external via HDMI or USB-C
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC3287 HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6"
    Screen Resolution
    1K
    Hard Drives
    NVMe various
Instead of randomly turning off features randomly, why not run something like Task Manager / process explorer and try see what's actually going on..

It just happened with task manager open. I didn't see any jump in CPU or anything, probably because task manager was freezing up too.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5800X3D
    Motherboard
    Asus TUF Gaming X570-Pro WiFi II
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC897 @ AMD K19.2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AOC U34G2G4R3 [34" LCD]
    Screen Resolution
    3440x1440
    Hard Drives
    NVMe Samsung SSD 970 x 2
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    4TB ST4000DM004-2CV104
    PSU
    750W Coolermaster V Series V750 80 Plus Gold
    Case
    Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 D-RGB Tempered Glass Full Tower Black
    Internet Speed
    250Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox / Chrome / Edge / Vivaldi
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total Security
Yeah. look at mouse drivers if you added any and remove them

It's not my mouse or keyboard. They are both wired btw. If I'm watching YouTube when it happens, the video stops playing. It's something else.
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5800X3D
    Motherboard
    Asus TUF Gaming X570-Pro WiFi II
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC897 @ AMD K19.2
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AOC U34G2G4R3 [34" LCD]
    Screen Resolution
    3440x1440
    Hard Drives
    NVMe Samsung SSD 970 x 2
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    4TB ST4000DM004-2CV104
    PSU
    750W Coolermaster V Series V750 80 Plus Gold
    Case
    Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 D-RGB Tempered Glass Full Tower Black
    Internet Speed
    250Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox / Chrome / Edge / Vivaldi
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total Security
The cursor jumps all over the place when I move it and the system freezes up for a second and then repeats.
So you are moving the mouse when it happens
and the motion is very jerky.
This never happens unless you are moving the mouse?
Both are wired. Can I know brand and model of keyboard and mouse and if there is a finger-pad anywhere for mouse movement?
Does this happen for a few seconds or for a few minutes (ie could you find anything by looking at task mgr?)
One thing I would like you to do is to plug each into a different port, and non-hub if possible, or different hub. If hub can I know brand of hub?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    win 11Pro 24H2 current
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY
    CPU
    I9-13900k
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG STRIX Z790-E Gam wifi-6E, latest AMI BIOS 2801
    Memory
    G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32GB Kit DDR5 6000. 6000.
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX™ 3060 Ti VISION OC 8G (rev. 2.0)
    Sound Card
    "Realtek USB Audio", ROG SupremeFX 7.1 Surround Sound High Definition Audio CODEC ALC4080, Bose Computer Music Monitor/ Desktop Computer Speakers
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell S3221QS
    Screen Resolution
    4K but I usually display at 1K
    Hard Drives
    Sam 980 Pro 1T M.2, 990Pro, WD 570, others(all NVMe)
    PSU
    Corsair RM750e fully modular
    Case
    CoolerMaster TD500 mesh white case
    Cooling
    CPU:Thermalright aio A-E-360 V4 TOP(Thermalright anti-bend plate), CASE:3 front fans IN, 1 back fan OUT.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K55 Core RGB
    Mouse
    Corsair Harpoon RGB wireless
    Internet Speed
    220Mbs Starry I226-V
    Browser
    Firefox current, Tab center Reborn, etc etc etc.
    Antivirus
    BitDefender AV Free
    Other Info
    WuMgr, StartAllBack, Terabyte Image for Win, Revo Uninstaller Pro Portable.
    Time Spy Extreme 6239, VRMark Orange Room 16430, etc.
    Been doing computers since '62(IBM 7070/4(just missed their 650!!!). Managed a bunch of 360's. My first PC I think was one of the RS puters (I tried them all), a commodore, an IBM PC w DOS 3.11, and others mainly DIY (COMPUTER SHOPPER!!!) w 95, 98, xp, vista, me, 7!!!, 8, 10!!!, 11.
    I use Wondershare Filmora Basic to process my vlogs. Pocket 2
  • Operating System
    win 10, Mint
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo P15s
    CPU
    i7-10510U 1.8-4.9GHz
    Motherboard
    Intel SoC
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia Quadro P520 2GB DDR5 supports 4K external via HDMI or USB-C
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC3287 HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6"
    Screen Resolution
    1K
    Hard Drives
    NVMe various
The cursor jumps all over the place when I move it and the system freezes up for a second and then repeats.
I had a similar problem last week. It was something to do with the Logitech Bolt mouse and keyboard USB dongle. I took it out and moved it to another USB port and it has worked smoothly ever since.
Based on the OP description I would be inclined to suggest that thecaretaker may be onto something. When the mouse jumps and jerks all over the place it is often due to a peripheral hardware problem such as a device not properly plugged in, a bad USB cable (especially on mouse or keyboard), a stuck key or mouse button, to name a few examples. Even a bad Ethernet connection can create this effect. Not to say that software can't generate this effect also, although it is usually due to an intensive application such as a virus scanner when memory is low. This isn't likely when one has 64GB of system memory but sometimes it happens. I would check all my hardware and peripherals first.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY, ASUS, and DELL
    CPU
    Intel i7 6900K (octocore) / AMD 3800X (8 core)
    Motherboard
    ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1
    Memory
    128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA 1070
    Sound Card
    Crystal Sound (onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
    Screen Resolution
    4K and something equally attrocious
    Hard Drives
    A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

    Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

    Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

    RAID arrays included:

    LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
    LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

    INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
    PSU
    SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
    Cooling
    Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers. Not a fan of liquid cooling.
    Keyboard
    all kinds.
    Mouse
    all kinds
    Internet Speed
    360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
    Browser
    FIREFOX
    Antivirus
    KASPERSKY (no apologies)
    Other Info
    I own too many laptops: A Dell touch screen with Windows 11 and 6 others (not counting the other four laptops I bought for this household.) Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
yes, I have had things change favorably simply by changing the brand of hub, though that seemed to be much more of a thing on my laptop than on the box.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    win 11Pro 24H2 current
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY
    CPU
    I9-13900k
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG STRIX Z790-E Gam wifi-6E, latest AMI BIOS 2801
    Memory
    G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32GB Kit DDR5 6000. 6000.
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX™ 3060 Ti VISION OC 8G (rev. 2.0)
    Sound Card
    "Realtek USB Audio", ROG SupremeFX 7.1 Surround Sound High Definition Audio CODEC ALC4080, Bose Computer Music Monitor/ Desktop Computer Speakers
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell S3221QS
    Screen Resolution
    4K but I usually display at 1K
    Hard Drives
    Sam 980 Pro 1T M.2, 990Pro, WD 570, others(all NVMe)
    PSU
    Corsair RM750e fully modular
    Case
    CoolerMaster TD500 mesh white case
    Cooling
    CPU:Thermalright aio A-E-360 V4 TOP(Thermalright anti-bend plate), CASE:3 front fans IN, 1 back fan OUT.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K55 Core RGB
    Mouse
    Corsair Harpoon RGB wireless
    Internet Speed
    220Mbs Starry I226-V
    Browser
    Firefox current, Tab center Reborn, etc etc etc.
    Antivirus
    BitDefender AV Free
    Other Info
    WuMgr, StartAllBack, Terabyte Image for Win, Revo Uninstaller Pro Portable.
    Time Spy Extreme 6239, VRMark Orange Room 16430, etc.
    Been doing computers since '62(IBM 7070/4(just missed their 650!!!). Managed a bunch of 360's. My first PC I think was one of the RS puters (I tried them all), a commodore, an IBM PC w DOS 3.11, and others mainly DIY (COMPUTER SHOPPER!!!) w 95, 98, xp, vista, me, 7!!!, 8, 10!!!, 11.
    I use Wondershare Filmora Basic to process my vlogs. Pocket 2
  • Operating System
    win 10, Mint
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo P15s
    CPU
    i7-10510U 1.8-4.9GHz
    Motherboard
    Intel SoC
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia Quadro P520 2GB DDR5 supports 4K external via HDMI or USB-C
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC3287 HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6"
    Screen Resolution
    1K
    Hard Drives
    NVMe various
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