TLS 1.0,1.1, 1.2 and 1.3 do they affect browsing speed?


And from Firefox...

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Is QUIC as secure as TLS 1.3?
 

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kelper said:
Is QUIC as secure as TLS 1.3?
Click to expand...


See my pic just above.
In FF I show ElevenForum with TSL 1.3

I dunno if that's browser specific or site specific.
I'm guessing... browser specific.

I would think that ElevenForum is compatible with all browsers.
But the browser security details only show the ones the browser uses?
 

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Well, in Brave Google uses TLS 1.3 but Elevenforum uses QUIC whatever that is. I know nothing about the workings of these protocols!
 

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kelper said:
WEll, in Brave Google uses TLS 1.3 but Elevenforum uses QUIC whatever that is. I know nothing about the workings of these protocols!
Click to expand...


I would think that websites have to be able to "handshake" with ALL the different browser security protocols ?

But when you look at a specific browser's security protocols, all you will see are the ones "your" specific browser is using with a specific site.
 

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kelper said:
Well, in Brave Google uses TLS 1.3 but Elevenforum uses QUIC whatever that is. I know nothing about the workings of these protocols!
Click to expand...
I get QUIC on both those sites with Brave, but am equally ignorant of the protocols :unsure:
 

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QUIC uses TLS 1.3. It can use a later version if one is created, but it will never use anything older than 1.3.

From the RFC (9001): "Clients MUST NOT offer TLS versions older than 1.3. A badly configured TLS implementation could negotiate TLS 1.2 or another older version of TLS. An endpoint MUST terminate the connection if a version of TLS older than 1.3 is negotiated."
 

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Ghot said:
Mine looks like this. I haven't noticed any websites not working...

View attachment 108761



I honestly don't remember if I did this manually, or if a WU did it.
Maybe I followed directions in one of @Brink 's "news" items?
I don't see anything in my notes for Win 10 or Win 11.
Click to expand...
I know on my computer this is the default setting. I don't know if it's all Windows 11 versions or because I'm using the Canary builds.
 

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if anybody is using a chrome type browser they can enable QUIC protocol in Experiments.
address bar .. chrome://flags
or in my case vivaldi://flags

best of luck. Steve ..
 

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