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GrayOldman1

GrayOldman1

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I have a Windows 11 Pc and have shut it down by going to the windows icon and shutting it down by the menu. Now question is using the power button for shut down? Yes or No or it does the same thing?
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Myself
    CPU
    Ryzen 5-5600x
    Motherboard
    Asus B550A Gaming
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvida GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
    Sound Card
    On board sound
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Wide screen Samsung
    Hard Drives
    Evo M.2 Boot Drive 500GB, Evo 250 GB ssd, 2 each Seagate 3 Terabyte Hard disks.
    Teramaster NAS F4-210 with 4 6TB drives.
    PSU
    EVGA
    Case
    Rosewell
    Cooling
    Cooler master
    Mouse
    Logtech
    Internet Speed
    1.2 Mbps
    Other Info
    Computers I have had are Ti-99A, Commodore 64(2) Original IBM PC with 2 floppies drives. Commodore 128, PC base 286, 386 cpu, Compaq 386 with internal DSL modem.
    A number of other computers, and now my last one.(I think)
It does just that on my PCs. If you go to control panel -> power options you can choose what the power button does.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home 24H2 RP
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self-build
    CPU
    Intel I3-10100
    Motherboard
    MSI H410M-PRO
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GT 1030
    Sound Card
    Motherboard default
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Philips 27 inch
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung EVO 970 NVMe SSD 256 Gb
    Samsung QVO 870 SATA SSD 2 Tb
    PSU
    ATX 450W
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless
    Internet Speed
    930 Mb down / 120 Mb up
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Microsoft Office 2021 Plus
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self-build
    CPU
    Intel i3-8100
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z370 D3
    Memory
    16 Gb
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia GT 720
    Sound Card
    Motherboard default
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Philips 27-inch
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 960 NVMe SSD 256 Gb
    Seagate 2 Tb HDD
    PSU
    ATX 450W
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless
    Keyboard
    Microsoft
    Internet Speed
    930 Mb down / 120 Mb up
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
Either will work, but just food for thought on any OS...

"Generally, a graceful shutdown is preferable in the case of any OS that saves its state. When the standard shutdown procedures are not done with these OSs, the result can be data corruption of program and operating system files. The result of the corruption can be instability, incorrect functioning or failure to boot."

Source
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 22H2 19045.4046
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell/Vostro 470 (Year 2012)
    CPU
    Intel i7-3770 @ 3.40GHz
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD 7500 Radeon HD Series
    Sound Card
    Realtek Hi-Def Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U2412M
    Hard Drives
    1 TB 7200 HDD
    Keyboard
    Dell/USB
    Mouse
    Dell/USB
    Internet Speed
    100/10
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Security/MalwareBytes Premium
WXC said:
Either will work, but just food for thought on any OS...

"Generally, a graceful shutdown is preferable.....
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Only pressing and holding the power button performs a hard shut down.

GrayOldman1 said:
question is using the power button for shut down? Yes or No or it does the same thing?
Click to expand...

Yes. Just pressing it should start an orderly shut down as long as you have it set that way in Control Panel.

www.elevenforum.com

Change Power Button Action in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to change the default action to take when pressing the power button in Windows 10 and Windows 11. The power button action setting lets users specify the default action to take when the system hardware power button on the PC is pressed. Users can specify one of...
www.elevenforum.com www.elevenforum.com

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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October 2021 it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update, and 24H2 on 3rd October 2024 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 24H2.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
Bree said:
Only pressing and holding the power button performs a hard shut down.



Yes. Just pressing it should start an orderly shut down as long as you have it set that way in Control Panel.

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Thank you, Bree.

Your insight is always appreciated. ;)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 22H2 19045.4046
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell/Vostro 470 (Year 2012)
    CPU
    Intel i7-3770 @ 3.40GHz
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD 7500 Radeon HD Series
    Sound Card
    Realtek Hi-Def Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U2412M
    Hard Drives
    1 TB 7200 HDD
    Keyboard
    Dell/USB
    Mouse
    Dell/USB
    Internet Speed
    100/10
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Security/MalwareBytes Premium
WXC said:
Either will work, but just food for thought on any OS...

"Generally, a graceful shutdown is preferable in the case of any OS that saves its state. When the standard shutdown procedures are not done with these OSs, the result can be data corruption of program and operating system files. The result of the corruption can be instability, incorrect functioning or failure to boot."

Source
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I cannot remember the last time a forced shutdown did any serious damage - the worst is loss of data in any programs open at the time.

Loads of people deify XP or W7, but the later versions are much more robust in a forced shutdown.

Even in cases of updates sitting there for ever, and eventually you do a forced shutdown, I cannot remember last time anything serious happened - worst case is it redownloads the updates again. Of course, I do not recommend this as normal practice LOL.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Zenbook 14
    CPU
    I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB soldered
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop OLED screen
    Screen Resolution
    2880x1800 touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
    PSU
    Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
    Keyboard
    Built in UK keybd
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
    Internet Speed
    900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

    Macrium Reflect Home V8
    Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
    Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
cereberus said:
I cannot remember the last time a forced shutdown did any serious damage - the worst is loss of data in any programs open at the time.

Loads of people deify XP or W7, but the later versions are much more robust in a forced shutdown.

Even in cases of updates sitting there for ever, and eventually you do a forced shutdown, I cannot remember last time anything serious happened - worst case is it redownloads the updates again. Of course, I do not recommend this as normal practice LOL.
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Thank you, cereberus.

I too have forced shutdown a few times, and never had an issue (personally). I agree that there is the possibility of losing data in any open program. I have been fortunate not to have had that happen.

I appreciate you sharing your knowledge, with me/us.

(y)


Second and even third opinions, are always good. ;)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 22H2 19045.4046
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell/Vostro 470 (Year 2012)
    CPU
    Intel i7-3770 @ 3.40GHz
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD 7500 Radeon HD Series
    Sound Card
    Realtek Hi-Def Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U2412M
    Hard Drives
    1 TB 7200 HDD
    Keyboard
    Dell/USB
    Mouse
    Dell/USB
    Internet Speed
    100/10
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Security/MalwareBytes Premium
I recall the days of Windows 95. You could mess up things if not shut down the right way. My kids were good out messing it up. Their answer was when we used the Commodore 64 or 128 we just shut it off. It should be the same. Ah the days of loading MSDOS.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Myself
    CPU
    Ryzen 5-5600x
    Motherboard
    Asus B550A Gaming
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvida GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
    Sound Card
    On board sound
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Wide screen Samsung
    Hard Drives
    Evo M.2 Boot Drive 500GB, Evo 250 GB ssd, 2 each Seagate 3 Terabyte Hard disks.
    Teramaster NAS F4-210 with 4 6TB drives.
    PSU
    EVGA
    Case
    Rosewell
    Cooling
    Cooler master
    Mouse
    Logtech
    Internet Speed
    1.2 Mbps
    Other Info
    Computers I have had are Ti-99A, Commodore 64(2) Original IBM PC with 2 floppies drives. Commodore 128, PC base 286, 386 cpu, Compaq 386 with internal DSL modem.
    A number of other computers, and now my last one.(I think)
Probably the most useful shortcut since Windows 8:
Code: 
shutdown /s /f /t 0
This will tell me, what is causing shutdown to hang:
Code: 
reg add "HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System" /v "VerboseStatus" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /f
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 8600G (07/24)
    Motherboard
    ASROCK B650M-HDV/M.2 3.15 (07/24)
    Memory
    2x32GB Kingston FURY DDR5 5600 MHz CL36 @4800 CL40 (07/24)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASROCK Radeon RX 6600 Challenger D 8G @60FPS (08/24)
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound BlasterX AE-5 Plus (05/24)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Philips 24M1N3200ZS/00 (05/24)
    Screen Resolution
    1920×1080@165Hz via DP1.4
    Hard Drives
    Kingston KC3000 NVMe 2TB (05/24)
    ADATA XPG GAMMIX S11 Pro 512GB (07/19)
    PSU
    Seasonic Core GM 550 Gold (04/24)
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 Mini with 3x Noctua NF-P14s/12@555rpm (04/24)
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12S with Noctua NF-P12 (04/24)
    Keyboard
    HP Pavilion Wired Keyboard 300 (07/24) + Rabalux 76017 Parker (01/24)
    Mouse
    Logitech M330 Silent Plus (04/23)
    Internet Speed
    500/100 Mbps via RouterOS (05/21) & TCP Optimizer
    Browser
    Edge & Brave for YouTube & LibreWolf for FB
    Antivirus
    NextDNS
    Other Info
    Backup: Hasleo Backup Suite (PreOS)
    Headphones: Sennheiser RS170 (09/10)
    Phone: Samsung Galaxy Xcover 7 (02/24)
    Chair: Huzaro Force 4.4 Grey Mesh (05/24)
    Notifier: Xiaomi Mi Band 9 Milanese (10/24)
    2nd Monitor: AOC G2460VQ6 @75Hz (02/19)
I have the other question, is it really needed to completely shut the laptop completely down? I usually just close it when I am done, and either plug it into the charger, or depending on the amount of charge just leave it until I am ready or need to use it again. usually only restart if an update requires it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude 3310
    CPU
    2.1 i3
    Memory
    8gb
    Hard Drives
    256 ssd
    Browser
    edge, firefox, chrome
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