Upgrading from Win 10 to Win 11 questions

DJG · Apr 5, 2024

@Ghot, following the procedure without the updates yielded the same results, just quicker. So I decided to try it exactly like you did. I downloaded the Win 11 64 ISO from Microsoft, mounted it and went through the whole routine. When you get to 70% done with no restarts you know you're in trouble. Sure enough. I have a feeling Windows 11 does not like my Windows 10, or vice-versa. Maybe 10 is jealous

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Unless you can, at this point I can't think of anything else to do. Do you think Kaspersky paused and inactive but still installed could be a problem? It still shows inactive after the upgrade attempt reboots. I do have a lot of old software installed not used, though nothing I can see that has any booting repercussions. I might try removing those.

I can't thank you enough for your fantastic help and patience.

PS: I should have mentioned the NVME disk has GPT partitions.

Ghot · Apr 5, 2024

@DJG

TPM (PTT for intel), must be enabled in the BIOS.

As for Secure boot, you might have to try it with it enabled, and also with it disabled.
I'm not sure how the Revocations will work with this.

Ofc, you can always do a clean install instead.

Just to make sure we haven't missed something... download and run this tool...

https://github.com/rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11/releases/download/2.6.0.0/WhyNotWin11.exe

I assume you'll get all GREEN boxes like you should.
It should look like this...

You should also get the latest chipset driver and the latest BIOS.

Also... even though the motherboard change worked... you should probably install the correct motherboard drivers, too.

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Here's your BIOS manual, and your motherboard manual, links (PDF)

BIOS Manual

Users Manual

DJG · Apr 5, 2024

@Ghot, WhyNotWin11 showed my Intel I7-14700F CPU incompatible, but checking with the Microsoft website (Microsoft) it shows it as compatible. I had updated the BIOS to latest when I first got the motherboard on 3/18 and downloaded firmware and drivers, but I just checked and on 3/21 they put out a new chipset update, figures

. I'll give it another go with the ISO I downloaded from Microsoft, Win11_23H2_English_x64v2.ISO.

Again, thanks a million.

Ghot · Apr 5, 2024

DJG said:
@Ghot, WhyNotWin11 showed my Intel I7-14700F CPU incompatible, but checking with the Microsoft website (Microsoft) it shows it as compatible. I had updated the BIOS to latest when I first got the motherboard on 3/18 and downloaded firmware and drivers, but I just checked and on 3/21 they put out a new chipset update, figures . I'll give it another go with the ISO I downloaded from Microsoft, Win11_23H2_English_x64v2.ISO.

Again, thanks a million.

That tool from Github, may not have the Intel I7-14700F coded in... yet.
If everything else is GREEN, you should be OK.

I Googled this: Windows 11 upgrade error: 0xC1900101 - 0x20017

RESULTS

Also, might want to check your registry for this... it's a Win 11 registry thing... but.. it also applies to Windows 10.

Option #2, step #3, here... will "disable" the Vulnerable Driver Block List, which could also be causing the error.

Enable or Disable Microsoft Vulnerable Driver Blocklist in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to turn on or off the Microsoft Vulnerable Driver Blocklist for all users in Windows 10 and Windows 11. Starting with Windows 10 (KB5018482) and Windows 11 (KB5018483 and KB5018496), the Microsoft Vulnerable Driver Blocklist is enabled by default. The vulnerable...

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DJG · Apr 5, 2024

I had googled that originally

. I just now did the vulnerable driver registry option. Let's see if that with the driver update also helps.

Thanks again (and again, and again ...)!

DJG · Apr 5, 2024

@Ghot, still no joy. Considering I've been upgrading since Win 7 and done a fair amount of settings and registry mods there must be something in there Win 11 does not like. Maybe I'll try dual boot and see if I can get Win 11 up to my needs.

And again, THANK YOU!

Ghot · Apr 5, 2024

DJG said:
@Ghot, still no joy. Considering I've been upgrading since Win 7 and done a fair amount of settings and registry mods there must be something in there Win 11 does not like. Maybe I'll try dual boot and see if I can get Win 11 up to my needs.

And again, THANK YOU!

Well, I wish you luck.
Might be easier to just do a clean install.

NormanF · Apr 5, 2024

DJG said:
- I didn't make the USB, the USB is the Microsoft USB with the resale Win 11 Pro, bought from Newegg.
- X99 MB is no longer, I'm in the new ROG STRIX Z690-F GAMING WIFI. The X99 Win 10 backup worked great on it with no activation necessary, weird.
- I'm on an NVME disk running the BIOS in UEFI mode.
- Kaspersky was disabled.
- I did tell it to do the updates, maybe that was the mistake. I'll try again without them.

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The error is due to an outdated dedicated graphics card driver. You usually can't update them so you need to buy a new dedicated graphics card with up to date drivers.

DJG · Apr 5, 2024

NormanF said:
The error is due to an outdated dedicated graphics card driver. You usually can't update them so you need to buy a new dedicated graphics card with up to date drivers.

Hmmm, it is pretty old. I'll have to check that out. Thanks!

DJG · Apr 5, 2024

@NormanF you definitely had a point. Both my current cards have no drivers for Windows 11. New card is on the way that does!

Thank you! Let's see how it goes, I paid $10 for delivery tomorrow

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You and Ghot are my heroes!

DJG · Apr 7, 2024

Well, at least I got one less excuse for not being able to upgrade, same error message. But the graphics card won't be a problem now

. And I got my system spec updated, minus the OS part ...

I was wondering, around what percent completion does the first restart happen?

Ghot · Apr 7, 2024

DJG said:
Well, at least I got one less excuse for not being able to upgrade, same error message. But the graphics card won't be a problem now . And I got my system spec updated, minus the OS part ...

I was wondering, around what percent completion does the first restart happen?

I honestly don't remember. I did four In-Place upgrades myself, but they were easy and quick.

If you have a fresh backup of Windows 10, why don't you try a clean install of Windows 11.
If Win 11 is too much of a pain, you can always restore the Win 10 backup. ^^

Clean Install Windows 11

This tutorial will show you step by step on how to clean install Windows 11 at boot on your PC with or without an Internet connection and setup with a local account or Microsoft account. Windows 11 has all the power and security of Windows 10 with a redesigned and refreshed look. It also comes...

www.elevenforum.com

Windows 11 Tweaks - Leader Board.

These are tweaks I've seen asked for... many times. They are collected here for easy access. All of these and more can be found in the Eleven Forum Tutorials section. Make sure to read the "notes" in the various tutorials. At the bottom of the first post in all the "tutorials", there are...

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DJG · Apr 7, 2024

Ghot said:
I honestly don't remember. I did four In-Place upgrades myself, but they were easy and quick.

If you have a fresh backup of Windows 10, why don't you try a clean install of Windows 11.
If Win 11 is too much of a pain, you can always restore the Win 10 backup. ^^

Clean Install Windows 11

This tutorial will show you step by step on how to clean install Windows 11 at boot on your PC with or without an Internet connection and setup with a local account or Microsoft account. Windows 11 has all the power and security of Windows 10 with a redesigned and refreshed look. It also comes...

www.elevenforum.com

Windows 11 Tweaks - Leader Board.

These are tweaks I've seen asked for... many times. They are collected here for easy access. All of these and more can be found in the Eleven Forum Tutorials section. Make sure to read the "notes" in the various tutorials. At the bottom of the first post in all the "tutorials", there are...

www.elevenforum.com

Thanks, I was thinking of trying it out and see if I could get my minimal setup going with a clean start. The graphics card at least won't screw that up, and I do have a Win 10 backup from yesterday

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Thanks again to you and @NormanF!

NormanF · Apr 7, 2024

DJG said:
Well, at least I got one less excuse for not being able to upgrade, same error message. But the graphics card won't be a problem now . And I got my system spec updated, minus the OS part ...

I was wondering, around what percent completion does the first restart happen?

At 30%. If you've basic memory, expect the process to take 3 hours. If you have like 32 GB RAM, the three boot process can take as little as twenty minutes!

DJG · Apr 8, 2024

Greetings from a clean install Windows 11, @Ghot and @NormanF! So, I'm full-on on 11, the old big water-cooled hardware has been retired, and I'm pretty much where I wanted except for a few things, biggest being I just discovered Win 11 doesn't like my HP 1320 printer, WTF??!! Microsoft must be getting a percentage of all the stuff Win 11 users had to replace because of planned incompatibility

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Some annoyances are the bloating of apps (I went down the list uninstalling a couple dozen, and there's a bunch I wanted to but not allowed). Anybody know how to make the desktop icon font totally black? The "3D" white/black coloring is very annoying. I do like some of the features, but I guess I'm a minimalist

Thank you both so much for your great help (how do you award user points?).

Wisewiz · Apr 8, 2024

@DJG

Hover over the Like (thumb-up) icon at the lower right of anyone's contibution to your question, and choose Like (1 point), Helpful (5 points), or Great Support (10). The volunteer support people here appreciate your recognition of the value of their contributions.

Ghot · Apr 8, 2024

@DJG

You mentioned bloating... I used REVO to remove a pile of Windows Apps.
The screen shot below, shows what I removed.
It's just a guide if you want to go all Rambo on the bloatware.

I don't know how to make your Desktop icon font black.

And one of these may help with your Printer issues... (I know it says Windows 10, but Win 11 is really still Windows 10).

How to install HP LaserJet 1320 on Windows 10 Computer

This is an update for anyone trying to install the LaserJet 1320 on a Windows 10 computer. There is a great YouTube video with instructions here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_hUiUCMCJw The video is not in English, but you can follow the steps pretty well. Here is a summary of the...

h30434.www3.hp.com

Install optional drivers for your printer manually in Windows 11 - Microsoft Support

Learn how to install printer drivers manually for Windows 11.

support.microsoft.com

DJG · Apr 8, 2024

@Ghot, I spent over two hours going through similar Google posts with no luck, but going through the printer specs, I realized it had a USB port, though the weird connector kind. Hmmm, I remembered I had in my discarded cable drawer one of those. I disconnected the network cable and plugged in the USB and damn, I had a printer available!

This thread has been resolved! Thanks again to all for your great help, and now to continue getting Win 11 to look like I really want it to

Wisewiz · Apr 8, 2024

If that printer is Wi-Fi capable, try unplugging the USB cable now, and just see whether the printer works without the cable.

DJG · Apr 8, 2024

Wisewiz said:
If that printer is Wi-Fi capable, try unplugging the USB cable now, and just see whether the printer works without the cable.

Naaah. So far I've had no use for Wi-Fi, and I have no problem with another USB cable

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