Solved Very Minor Desktop Icon issue


Here's something I just discovered that might shed some more light on the problem. I came back to my laptop after a 30 minute idle, which I knew was when the mouse clicks would not work on my desktop icons for the first 10 seconds or so, and I noticed in the bottom right of the taskbar a little arrow pointing up at 45 degrees. When I hovered the mouse over it, it said Windows Web Experience Pack was using location services and mentioned something about Widgets. I then quickly tried clicking on the desktop icons to confirm that they still were not working. I watched for about 10 seconds and the moment the arrow on the taskbar disappeared, the mouse started working on my desktop icons.

I already have Widgets disabled. Perhaps I should uninstall the Windows Web Experience Pack? Or maybe Microsoft would like to fix their obviously faulty software? I know, dream on.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 15
    CPU
    11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-1135G7 @ 2.40GHz
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    12 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated IrisXE
    Sound Card
    Integrated/Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe Micron 2210 NVMe 512GB
    PSU
    N/A
    Case
    N/A
    Cooling
    N/A
    Keyboard
    N/A
    Mouse
    MS Optical Mouse 2.0 USB
    Internet Speed
    800 Mbps down, 20 Mbps up
Probably Weather or some other widget tried to detect your location. Try disabling location for this applications or for all applications.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (build 22631.4249) test laptop, Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894) main PC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
Disabling location setting in Windows Experience Pack got rid of the arrow on the lower right of the taskbar. However, it did not fix the "mouse click on desktop icons after idle" problem. Oh well, it was a nice guess!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 15
    CPU
    11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-1135G7 @ 2.40GHz
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    12 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated IrisXE
    Sound Card
    Integrated/Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe Micron 2210 NVMe 512GB
    PSU
    N/A
    Case
    N/A
    Cooling
    N/A
    Keyboard
    N/A
    Mouse
    MS Optical Mouse 2.0 USB
    Internet Speed
    800 Mbps down, 20 Mbps up
No! Thankfully I didn't bet my money on it.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (build 22631.4249) test laptop, Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894) main PC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
Well, Well, Well!! Looks like Microsoft maybe heard our complaints. (Doubt it) There is an update released today called: 2023-02 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5022913) - So maybe this may do the trick. Fingers crossed, I'm doing the update now.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware Aurora R11

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home x64 Version 23H2 Build 22631.3447
The update didn't fix the issue for me
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5700X
    Motherboard
    ASUS Crosshair VII Hero
    Memory
    32GB 3600MHZ CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX3070TI
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG27GP850-B
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    PSU
    Corsair RM750x
    Case
    Fractal Design Meshify 2
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15s
    Keyboard
    ASUS Strix Flare
    Mouse
    Glorious Model D- Wireless
    Browser
    MS Edge
Hello,
I have the exact same problem on a brand new Lenovo Legion 5 15ARH7H laptop, running Windows 11 22H2 with the latest updates installed.
20-25min Idle = Desktop icons frozen for a few secs, then everything becomes usable again.
It seems the Trash Bin isnt affected, somehow.

I have been using a local account since the beginning and have disabled widgets since the start, so i dont think this is related to widgets tbh.

I must also mention that i have another issue, which could be related : my laptop goes to sleep when the screen turns off, even if sleep is disabled entirely. I tried fixing it by disabling modern standby in the BIOS, sadly the BIOS on these laptops is completely locked down and i can only access some basic settings. My power plan doesnt have "Hybrid Sleep" or "Hibernate" in advanced settings either.
Maybe these two problems are cause by the same faulty power saving measures, or maybe they are entirely unrelated.

Edit : i have used AMD's auto-detect tool to reinstall the latest AMD driver (integrated GPU) and updatded the NVIDIA Driver (Dedicated GPU) but it didn't solve anything .
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo Legion 5
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 6800H
    Memory
    16 GB DDR5 (2x8)
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 3070 Mobile
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 IPS 165hz G-Sync (Integrated)
    Hard Drives
    980 Pro 1TB (System), 970 Evo 2 TB (DATA)
    Mouse
    Cooler Master MM710
My problem is pc Idle above 20 minutes ++ ( no sleep mode ) ...desktop icon will become freeze ( mouse can move but can't click it ) ...after 5 seconds ++ all become normal back.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Window 11
Khgt650 said:
I must also mention that i have another issue, which could be related : my laptop goes to sleep when the screen turns off, even if sleep is disabled entirely. I tried fixing it by disabling modern standby in the BIOS, sadly the BIOS on these laptops is completely locked down and i can only access some basic settings. My power plan doesnt have "Hybrid Sleep" or "Hibernate" in advanced settings either.
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Hey KHGT, have you tried the CMD and typing powercfg -h off to see if that would stop putting your Computer into Sleep mode?
Also you can try these methods: How to disable and re-enable hibernation - Windows Client
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware Aurora R11

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo Legion 5
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 6800H
    Memory
    16 GB DDR5 (2x8)
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 3070 Mobile
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 IPS 165hz G-Sync (Integrated)
    Hard Drives
    980 Pro 1TB (System), 970 Evo 2 TB (DATA)
    Mouse
    Cooler Master MM710
Khgt650 said:
my laptop goes to sleep when the screen turns off
Click to expand...
Please post the response to this command
PowerCfg -a
Nothing useful can be said until those results are known.

All the best,
Denis
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home x64 Version 23H2 Build 22631.3447
Try3 said:
Please post the response to this command
PowerCfg -a
Nothing useful can be said until those results are known.

All the best,
Denis
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Heres the result :

The following sleep states are available on this system:
Standby (S0 Low Power Idle) Network Connected
Hibernate

The following sleep states are unavailable on this system:
S1
S2
S3
Hybrid Sleep
Fast Startup (I disabled it myself when setting up the computer)

Will try disabling hibernation with powercfg -h off now, but then again i dont know if this is related to the desktop icon problem.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo Legion 5
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 6800H
    Memory
    16 GB DDR5 (2x8)
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 3070 Mobile
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 IPS 165hz G-Sync (Integrated)
    Hard Drives
    980 Pro 1TB (System), 970 Evo 2 TB (DATA)
    Mouse
    Cooler Master MM710
Then you have S0 Modern standby.
Your computer does not sleep.
S0 Modern standby starts when your display goes off.

I suggest you re-write your post #69.

Best of luck,
Denis
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home x64 Version 23H2 Build 22631.3447
Try3 said:
Then you have S0 Modern standby.
Your computer does not sleep.
S0 Modern standby starts when your display goes off.

I suggest you re-write your post #69.

Best of luck,
Denis
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Thats kinda what i figured out, sadly i as i said in #69 i cant get into the *real* bios to re-enable S3 sleep so my only workaround is to leave the screen on at all times.
In any case, this clearly has nothing to do with our desktop icons problem so i will stop mentioning it. Thanks for your help.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo Legion 5
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 6800H
    Memory
    16 GB DDR5 (2x8)
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 3070 Mobile
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 IPS 165hz G-Sync (Integrated)
    Hard Drives
    980 Pro 1TB (System), 970 Evo 2 TB (DATA)
    Mouse
    Cooler Master MM710
Khgt650 said:
i cant get into the *real* bios to re-enable S3 sleep so my only workaround is to leave the screen on at all times.
Click to expand...
I do not know what you mean by "real" bios.

The only way I know of disabling S0 Modern standby is
Disable Modern Standby in Windows 10 and Windows 11 - ElevenForumTutorials
apart from a tool that applies just to some Ryzen CPU Bioses together with a procedure that edits it.
- Many users have found that disabling S0 enables S3 Sleep. I didn't, I now only have on, hibernate, off but it's better than having S0 messing things up.

Before I disabled S0, I did spend some time using a sort of halfway house workaround :-
- Power options - Turn off the display - Never
- Screensaver - Set to turn on after 1 minute [or whatever you want]. Blanks screensaver chosen so the display looks off even though it's not - C:\Windows\System32\scrnsave.scr
This setup stops S0 Modern standby ever starting.


All the best,
Denis
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home x64 Version 23H2 Build 22631.3447
What i mean by "real bios" is the fact that these lenovo laptops only give you access to a very limited BIOS with some basic options, none of the power-related options can be accessed by the user, editing them requires either flashing a custom bios or the use of a tool (UMAF GitHub - DavidS95/Smokeless_UMAF) to actually enable S3 support in the BIOS but that doesnt work with every model since not all OEM include S3 support in the first place.

I will simply use your screensaver method i guess.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo Legion 5
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 6800H
    Memory
    16 GB DDR5 (2x8)
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 3070 Mobile
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 IPS 165hz G-Sync (Integrated)
    Hard Drives
    980 Pro 1TB (System), 970 Evo 2 TB (DATA)
    Mouse
    Cooler Master MM710

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5700X
    Motherboard
    ASUS Crosshair VII Hero
    Memory
    32GB 3600MHZ CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX3070TI
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG27GP850-B
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    PSU
    Corsair RM750x
    Case
    Fractal Design Meshify 2
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15s
    Keyboard
    ASUS Strix Flare
    Mouse
    Glorious Model D- Wireless
    Browser
    MS Edge
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