Solved Video Driver Uninstall causing NVMe slowdown?


HHH03

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I recently uninstalled my video driver using DDU and afterwards my WD SN850X 1TB performance slowed down about 25%. I'm very confused by this behavior. I did a reinstall of Windows and the NVMe performance was back. Then an AMD driver update and the same loss of NVMe performance happened again. Does anyone have insight why a Video Driver uninstall would slow down the performance of a NVMe drive or how to fix it without a reinstall of Windows.
 
Windows Build/Version
Windows 11 Pro 22H2 (OS Build 22624.1391)

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
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    PC/Desktop
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    Lenovo P620
    CPU
    Threadripper Pro 3945WX
    Motherboard
    Lenovo 1046
    Memory
    32 GB DDR4 3200/EEC Hynix
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    Nvidia RTX 2070 Super FE
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    N/A
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    Samsung CRG5
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1080 240mHz
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    Samsung PM9A1 1TB NVMe
    Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500 GB NVMe
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    Samsung 850 PRO 256 GB
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    1000 Watt Lenovo 80 plus Platinum
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    M65 Pro RGB
Looking at your specs all I can think of is that for some reason the NVME lanes and/ or link speed are being reduced/ limited. Is there some setting in the BIOS to force a link speed for the NVME or is it set to auto, or no setting available?
I beleive any such setting might be under PCIe configuration/ PCH configuration or similar headings.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 22H2, build: 22621.521
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Scan 3XS Custom 1700
    CPU
    Intel i7-12700K 3.6GHz Base (5.0GHz Turbo)
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    Asus ProArt Creator B660 D4
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    64GB DDR 3600Mhz
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    Hard Drives
    WD SN570 1TB NVME (Boot), Samsung 870QVO 1TB (SSD), SanDisk 3D Ultra 500Gb (SSD) x2, Seagate 3Tb Expansion Desk (Ext HDD), 2x Toshiba 1Tb P300 (Ext HDD)
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It has something to do with Windows 11 and uninstalling the video driver... the BIOS settings didn't change. I ran DDU to uninstall the video driver and afterwards my NVMe drive lost at least 25% of its speed. I've tried to reinstall chipset drivers, didn't help at all. I have a new video card coming next week, I suppose I'll need to reinstall Windows after I put it in unless I can isolate the culprit for the NVMe drive speed loss.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo P620
    CPU
    Threadripper Pro 3945WX
    Motherboard
    Lenovo 1046
    Memory
    32 GB DDR4 3200/EEC Hynix
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia RTX 2070 Super FE
    Sound Card
    N/A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung CRG5
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1080 240mHz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung PM9A1 1TB NVMe
    Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500 GB NVMe
    Samsung 850 EVO 1 TB
    Samsung 850 PRO 256 GB
    PSU
    1000 Watt Lenovo 80 plus Platinum
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 Platinum XT
    Mouse
    M65 Pro RGB
Yes, I understand it was due to uninstalling the video driver, however there is a connection between Windows, BIOS, drivers and resource allocation.
I was not suggesting a BIOS setting was changed, I was asking if there is a way to check/ force a link speed for the NVME to perhaps prevent any behind the scenes resource allocation being altered when the video driver is uninstalled to see if that helps in determining what the issue is.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 22H2, build: 22621.521
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Scan 3XS Custom 1700
    CPU
    Intel i7-12700K 3.6GHz Base (5.0GHz Turbo)
    Motherboard
    Asus ProArt Creator B660 D4
    Memory
    64GB DDR 3600Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Tuff RTX 3080 10GB OC
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gigabyte G32QC 32inch 16:9 curved @2560 x 1440p 165Hz Freesync Premium Pro/ Dell SE2422H 24inch 16:9 1920 x 1080p 75Hz Freesync
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440p & 1920 x 1080p
    Hard Drives
    WD SN570 1TB NVME (Boot), Samsung 870QVO 1TB (SSD), SanDisk 3D Ultra 500Gb (SSD) x2, Seagate 3Tb Expansion Desk (Ext HDD), 2x Toshiba 1Tb P300 (Ext HDD)
    PSU
    Corsair RM1000X Modular
    Case
    Corsair 4000D Airflow Desktop
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H150i RGB Pro XT 360mm Liquid Cooler, 3 x 120mm fans, 1x Exhaust
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Ergonomic
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    800Mbs
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Defender, Malwarebytes
My first question would be are you overcloking?
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.3775
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    Dell Optiplex 7080
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    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
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    DELL 0J37VM
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    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
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    Integrated Realtek
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    Benq 27
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    2560x1440
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    1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme+256gb SKHynix m.2 nvme /External drives 512gb Samsung m.2 sata+1tb Kingston m2.nvme+ 4gb Solidigm nvme
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    500w
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    MT
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    Dell Premium
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    Logitech wired
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    Logitech wireless
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    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
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    #1 Edge #2 Firefox
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    Defender+MWB Premium
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    Benq 27
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    2560x1440
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    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
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    500w
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    MT
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    Dell factory
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    Logitech wireless
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    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
Can't think of any correlation between an nVme SSD and GPU (there's no common dominator - not files or settings they share). Seems more like a coincidence - or some bug with Windows or DDU.

That being said - I see you're using Build 22624.1391 of Windows - which is an "Insider build (Beta testing - as in - you get access to latest/future features - yet there's more room for bugs - since it's not widely tested yet)".
Latest stable (or at least more stable than beta builds) Windows build is 22621.1344. Try the stable builds instead - see if you have any issues with that.

Last but not least - yes, DDU is usually recommended for in-depth cleaning of GPU or Audio drivers - but it's not mandatory. Most of the times it's enough to - use the option that comes with the driver installer (just Check the "Factory Reset" option - while installing the drivers). There's even a dedicated tool made by AMD - for external in-depth cleaning (similar to DDU) - as in: https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/gpu-601

That being said if you suspect DDU of causing issues - don't use it.
 

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  • OS
    WinDOS 23H2
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    Laptop
    CPU
    Intel & AMD
    Memory
    SO-DIMM SK Hynix 15.8 GB Dual-Channel DDR4-2666 (2 x 8 GB) 1329MHz (19-19-19-43)
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    nVidia RTX 2060 6GB Mobile GPU (TU106M)
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    Onbord Realtek ALC1220
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1x Samsung PM981 NVMe PCIe M.2 512GB / 1x Seagate Expansion ST1000LM035 1TB
It’s perplexing for sure… I have my BIOS set at PCIe 4 for the M.2 drives. My original install was 22621.1344. It’s very possible the Beta build is the root cause of the issue. I did notice some NVMe performance loss after I installed 22624.1344. It wasn’t much, but noticeable. I used to run the DEV Channel builds, I stopping using them as for me these versions are quite unstable of late. Perhaps, some of this instability has made into the Beta channel. Anyhow, I’ll reinstall Windows when I get my new Video card next week. That should fix the problem.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo P620
    CPU
    Threadripper Pro 3945WX
    Motherboard
    Lenovo 1046
    Memory
    32 GB DDR4 3200/EEC Hynix
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia RTX 2070 Super FE
    Sound Card
    N/A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung CRG5
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1080 240mHz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung PM9A1 1TB NVMe
    Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500 GB NVMe
    Samsung 850 EVO 1 TB
    Samsung 850 PRO 256 GB
    PSU
    1000 Watt Lenovo 80 plus Platinum
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 Platinum XT
    Mouse
    M65 Pro RGB
It seem Windows Insiders builds Beta and Dev are the culprits for the NVMe slowdown… and nothing to do with DDU or the video drivers. Build 22621.1344 runs just fine. I hope whatever is slowing down the NVMe drive speed doesn’t appear in a future update.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo P620
    CPU
    Threadripper Pro 3945WX
    Motherboard
    Lenovo 1046
    Memory
    32 GB DDR4 3200/EEC Hynix
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia RTX 2070 Super FE
    Sound Card
    N/A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung CRG5
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1080 240mHz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung PM9A1 1TB NVMe
    Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500 GB NVMe
    Samsung 850 EVO 1 TB
    Samsung 850 PRO 256 GB
    PSU
    1000 Watt Lenovo 80 plus Platinum
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 Platinum XT
    Mouse
    M65 Pro RGB

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