Why, just why?!

glasskuter · Sep 4, 2024

ian50 said:
As far as MS snooping (ie. tracking), my view is that is creepy, like peering through your bedroom window at 3am.

Welcome to the digital age. If MS isn't doing it, someone else is, or they're all out there looking over each others' shoulder. That's why I don't sleep nude anymore.

RingTailCoon 11 · Sep 4, 2024

Try Linux Mint.........

Edwin · Sep 4, 2024

ian50 said:
As far as MS snooping (ie. tracking), my view is that is creepy, like peering through your bedroom window at 3am.

Nuthin more creepy than my Google Home piping up..., after I had woke on my own and quietly went to make coffee..., saying:
"I noticed you're awake, would you like me to cancel your alarm?"

antspants · Sep 4, 2024

Edwin said:
Nuthin more creepy than my Google Home piping up..., after I had woke on my own and quietly went to make coffee..., saying:
"I noticed you're awake, would you like me to cancel your alarm?"

I despise Google. Talk about privacy concerns. Not much one can do to totally block it though. So I adapt.

Edwin · Sep 4, 2024

antspants said:
I despise Google.

I don't mind them, we've become friends! We respect each other's space!

antspants · Sep 4, 2024

They are space.
All knowing.

Some people like to be probed. I believe you can buy a Google Probe add-on device for your PC. You’re not going to like how it works… unless of course you do (and there’s nothing wrong with that)

Ghot · Sep 4, 2024

ArthurDent said:
Okay, I get that Microsoft own the IP, but that still doesn't give them the right to f**** around with MY computer. If I take my car in for a service, I don't expect Ford to decide on a whim to make the steering wheel banana-shaped, radioactive green in colour and the size of a suitcase - I bet everyone would have something to say about that if they did!

ian50 said:
While it's true enough that MS only leases this O/S, the point to that is one does not expect the landlord to barge in whenever they want and re-arrange the furniture, take down the pictures etc. Doing that is just plain rude.

This!

MS has gone overboard.
Yes they own the software. What they don't own is the MS Settings "choices" I have made.

Like the Taskbar icons "size" settings. They DIS-enabled their own registry setting for the small Taskbar icons.
The small Taskbar icons (just for one example), don't affect MS or the operation of Windows 11.

Ancient wisdom says: "Only dead fish, go with the flow".

antspants · Sep 4, 2024

Fight it. I’ll build you’ll a soap box.

antspants · Sep 4, 2024

Ghot said:
A soap box won't do it.
Build me a congress.

They’ll just huff and they’ll puff, and they’ll blow your congress down.

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antspants · Sep 4, 2024

Congress doesn’t even seem to be able to control the findings of the United States of America v. Microsoft Corporation so I can’t see it making any progress with anything else. Microsft and their multi million dollar teams of lawyers run rings around the Govt’s.

Howard, who oversees litigation for Microsoft, an area in which expenditures are several hundred million dollars a year.

And that’s before they’re taken to task.

America (and probably Canada & Australia etc) aren’t going to take the same stance that the EU has, not in my opinion.

antspants · Sep 4, 2024

Don’t get me wrong, I hope I am wrong.

But what gets me, is that Microsoft has made it so you can’t even have your default browser open a search result due to their Edge specific protocols. (I know there is a really good work around)

microsoft-edge:https://blah.balh.blah
Or
microsoft-edge://

Uninstalling Edge (without something like the above linked Discover and Hotfixes app) and clicking on a search result, results in a message telling you that there is no app for that.

In my opinion, this goes against the findings of the US vs Microsoft legal case. But, I am not a lawyer so…

All meaning, if they can’t enforce those findings, what good is congress?

I just adapt. It doesn’t affect me in the slightest.

antspants · Sep 4, 2024

The political aspect is in direct relation to Microsoft acting with impunity.

I really appreciate you deleting your comments that I was directly replying to.

antspants · Sep 4, 2024

Anyway… Arthur asked a question

ArthurDent said:
Why does Microsoft insist on thinking it knows better than me how I want my computer to look.

What gives them the right to do this?

I’ve given my answer, in spite of your instigation, @Ghot

antspants · Sep 4, 2024

@ArthurDent It’s a matter of setting up your PC to work for you.

To be honest, I don’t interact with Microsoft on my PC unless it’s to suggest fixes for people with problems in here.
This is from get-go. I install Windows, I add Start11, I apply tweaks with reg files found in tutorials here, I no longer need to interact with Microsoft Windows less that fact I log in and that it supports the software I am using.
Windows no longer dictates how my system is configured as I have bypassed everything.

Start11 or StartIsBack are probably a good start to a less stressful experience.

Theo54au · Sep 4, 2024

antspants said:
Don’t get me wrong, I hope I am wrong.

But what gets me, is that Micrsoft has made it so you can’t even have your default browser open a search result due to their Edge specific protocols. (I know there is a really good work around)

microsoft-edge:https://blah.balh.blah
Or
microsoft-edge://

Uninstalling Edge (without something like the above linked Discover and Hotfixes app) and clicking on a search result, results in a message telling you that there is no app for that.

In my opinion, this goes against the findings of the US vs Microsoft legal case. But, I am not a lawyer so…

All meaning, if they can’t enforce those findings, what good is congress?

I just adapt. It doesn’t affect me in the slightest.

Yes, I agree with that. An old saying goes "if you can't beat them, join them" (for your own peace of mind)

TryingHard · Sep 5, 2024

antspants said:
@ArthurDent It’s a matter of setting up your PC to work for you.

To be honest, I don’t interact with Microsoft on my PC unless it’s to suggest fixes for people with problems in here.
This is from get-go. I install Windows, I add Start11, I apply tweaks with reg files found in tutorials here, I no longer need to interact with Microsoft Windows less that fact I log in and that it supports the software I am using.
Windows no longer dictates how my system is configured as I have bypassed everything.

Start11 or StartIsBack are probably a good start to a less stressful experience.

I've done pretty much the same thing.
I've modified as much of W11 as I could, use Open Shell Menu (similar to Start 11), use a firewall to block what I can't modify and now my new laptop is pretty much the way I want it. Even MS office has no internet access since I don't need it to and I don't use Outlook.
W11 came with my new laptop and I was horrified how intrusive it was. Maybe I forgot how W10 was before I modified it. But anyway, the first 10 days with the new laptop were quite stressfully but now all is finally well. As a bonus, W11 seems faster and snappier than W10 was on my old laptop.
The few things I can't change I live with. Life is sweet again.

Winuser · Sep 7, 2024

ArthurDent said:
Why does Micro$oft insist on thinking it knows better than me how I want my computer to look.

I don't think it a matter of MS thinking they know better. It's just part of the OS that gets updated or changed back to default with the update. Could they make it so the Start Menu doesn't change when doing an update? Probably. Will they? I doubt it.

cheaterslick · Sep 7, 2024

When you install Open Shell, make a backup of all your settings. You can click on the backup button at the bottom of it's Settings Menu and save it as an XML file. Then when MS pulls it's update bullsh*t again, just reinstall to the latest version of Open Shell and import that saved XML file back in so you can get your old menu settings back.

Yeah, it's a pain in the ass, but you do what you gotta do. Then repeat the process again the next time an update occurs.

Gotta work around it, if ya know when I mean. I don't like it but there it is.

TraderGary · Sep 7, 2024

I'm obviously in the minority on this forum. I like Windows 11. I honestly don't feel the need to make Windows 11 look like or work like an earlier Windows version. For me Windows 11 is rock solid reliable. YMMV

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