Windows 11 22H2 (Sun Valley 2) RTM build 22621 general availability after Sept. 5, 2022


UPDATE 8/16:
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Windows 11 version 22H2 build 22621 rumored to be released on September 20, 2022

Microsoft is yet to announce an official release date for Windows 11 version 22H2, but I have heard via my own contacts that the current planned general availability date is set for September 20. This date could still change, but that's what I'm told Microsoft is aiming for as of right now. The...
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UPDATE 6/7:
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Preview of Windows 11 version 22H2 now available

The Windows 11, version 22H2 preview is now available for commercial organizations to validate prior to its release later this year. Organizations enrolled in the Windows Insider Program for Business can access this build through all standard channels, including: Windows Update, Windows Update...
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UPDATE 5/24:
Windows 11, version 22H2 certification build

Minimum acceptable build for Windows 11, version 22H2 certification is RTM build (i.e. 22621).

Windows 11, version 22H2 based systems may ship with drivers that have achieved compatibility with Windows 11, version 21H2 until Sept 5th, 2022.
Partners looking to achieve compatibility for systems shipping with Windows 11, version 22H2 Release may use drivers for components that achieved compatibility with Windows 11, Version 21H2 until Sept 5th, 2021
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Windows Hardware Compatibility Program for Windows 11 version 22H2

The updated version of the Requirements, Windows Hardware Lab Kit (HLK), along with updated playlists for testing Windows 11, version 22H2 hardware can be downloaded from below links. Compared to previous releases of the HLK, this version is intended for exclusive testing for Windows 11, version...
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Whispers and murmurs about Windows 11 22H2 (codenamed Sun Valley 2) reaching release to manufacturing (RTM) status soon have been doing the rounds for a while now, with a report suggesting that it is happening this month itself. Another more recent report claimed that the latest Beta Channel build 22621 was the RTM candidate, with the sign-off on May 20, which is just under a week away.

Today, famed leakster and Twitter user WalkingCat has revealed the Windows 11 22H2 RTM date and it is just a few days after the May 20 signing-off. According to WalkingCat, Microsoft will be signing 22H2 or Sun Valley 2 (SV2) on May 24. However, it wasn't revealed which Windows 11 build was the RTM candidate and so for now, the most likely candidate seems to be build 22621 as suggested by yesterday's report.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1525486514553110528
https://twitter.com/x/status/1524440871462178816
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Read more:
www.neowin.net

Windows 11 22H2 (Sun Valley 2) alleged RTM date revealed by leaker

A report today has revealed the purported RTM date for Windows 11 22H2 or Sun Valley 2 (SV2). The report comes hot on the heels of another one which unveiled the alleged RTM release candidate.
www.neowin.net www.neowin.net
 
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cereberus said:
You are just being ridiculously argumentative. Nobody ever refers to first two numbers.

@NavyLCDR, @Bree, @Wynona, I agree with earlier post by @NavyLCDR to agree to disagree, I am not going to waste my time replying to him.

Of course, I assume he will get the last word in demonstrating his "contrariness".
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"Of course, I assume he will get the last word in demonstrating his 'contrariness'."

That's not what you just did????


with a simple search in Google

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Nobody ever refers to all others numbers, only the geeks.

most people refers, windows 11, windows 10, XP, Seven

but as i said in the post, "to better understand the numbers"


and as demonstrated in this thread, you and some others don't understand the numbers, demonstrated in your answers in this and others thread.

you and others just want contradict with little knowledge for it.

I'll end here, I've wasted a lot of time.
 
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Never mind this one. There is a problem with UUPDump download, I think.

Got a problem with the Windows 11 Build 22621.1 I think.

Is it supposed to run down the screen at 90 mph nonstop? Or is this something new?
 

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Wynona said:
Never mind this one. There is a problem with UUPDump download, I think.

Got a problem with the Windows 11 Build 22621.1 I think.

Is it supposed to run down the screen at 90 mph nonstop? Or is this something new?
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What is running down the screen ?
 

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CountMike said:
What is running down the screen ?
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Sorry, Count. I got ahead of myself there.

I downloaded Build 22621.1 from UUPDump. When I started to create the ISO, the text scrolled down the screen 90 to nothing. It looked like it was stuck on verifying something. It finally stopped scrolling and a message said there were errors downloading files.

At this point, I think there may be something amiss in UUPDump and nothing we can solve from here.

BTW, I deleted the first download and re-downloaded. Same thing on both downloads.
 

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I got the 22621.1 ISO from microsoft.
 

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Wynona said:
Sorry, Count. I got ahead of myself there.

I downloaded Build 22621.1 from UUPDump. When I started to create the ISO, the text scrolled down the screen 90 to nothing. It looked like it was stuck on verifying something. It finally stopped scrolling and a message said there were errors downloading files.

At this point, I think there may be something amiss in UUPDump and nothing we can solve from here.

BTW, I deleted the first download and re-downloaded. Same thing on both downloads.
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Well, I'm really embarrassed :oops:

I went back and downloaded Windows 11 Pro Build 22621.1 and started the ISO procedure. Lo and Behold, when I let it finish, I now have an ISO! Sheesh! I guess they changed things, but it ain't faster even with the fast stuff at the beginning!

However . . . ! I need the Home version of Windows 11 Build 22621.1 but as with the first try, I got a notice that there was a download error. So . . . At the moment, I guess my only option is to rejoin Insiders. Which is fine because this is going on my lappy and not on my main computer.
 

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y,

same here. 22000.708.
Wynona said:
All anyone has to do is look at the attachment here and see the official Microsoft (at this moment) Build Number. It's clear that the Build I'm running is 22000.708. That number changed multiple times before and after Microsoft released it to the general public.

In fact, Build 22000.675 was changed to Build 22000.708.
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I did my own Google search and got THIS -- which is from Microsoft itself, not some result whose source was not identified:

Hello Windows Insiders, today we’re releasing Windows 11 Build 22000.588 (KB5011563) to Windows Insiders in the Beta and Release Preview Channels.
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This comes from the Windows Blogs website, dated March 15, 2022 -- which based on the wording, appears to come directly from MS itself.

Clearly. MS feels a "Build" designation includes BOTH the 22000 and the 588.
 

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Mark Phelps said:
I did my own Google search and got THIS -- which is from Microsoft itself, not some result whose source was not identified:


This comes from the Windows Blogs website, dated March 15, 2022 -- which based on the wording, appears to come directly from MS itself.

Clearly. MS feels a "Build" designation includes BOTH the 22000 and the 588.
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Exactly, Mark.
 

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    Intel UHD Graphics 630
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    Monitor 1 - Acer 27" Monitor 2 - Acer 27"
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Hi gang,

I downloaded the 22621 .iso from MS insider's site (though I am not enrolled in program - all I had to do was login using my MS account then was able to d/l preview client .iso)

My questions are as follows -
1) Can I upgrade to what seems to be the final build to be released at some point this.summer without being enrolled in insider's program? And, if so, will I get updates for it (right now I am on 22000.708 21H2 build)??

2) For those who have done what I propose to do, did you have any major issues (eg. stability, broken apps,, etc.). Or have things been fairly stable with only minor issues??

I have a 3 yr. old ASUS AMD laptop that has all the updated drivers installed with, of course, an up-to-date backup just in case things go belly up!

Look forward to your expertise in this matter.

TIA,

Ray
 

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Mark Phelps said:
I did my own Google search and got THIS -- which is from Microsoft itself, not some result whose source was not identified:


This comes from the Windows Blogs website, dated March 15, 2022 -- which based on the wording, appears to come directly from MS itself.

Clearly. MS feels a "Build" designation includes BOTH the 22000 and the 588.
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No, one is the build number other is the revision number.

When there are updates for that build it always changes the revision number.

Is always presented both together.

That's what you see when you use 'winver' on cmd line on windows.

But one is the build number other is the revision number.

When you update the windows the revision number change.

When you upgrade the windows the build number change and come with the revison number.

You can see it here in this link and it comes from Microsoft itself. :wink:

Windows Hardware Compatibility Program for Windows 11, version 22H2

But this is technical stuff is for programmers and enthusiasts.

Most people doesn't care about that nor of insider versions.

I think someone here has already explained this very well.
 
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Athanasian_Creed said:
Hi gang,

I downloaded the 22621 .iso from MS insider's site (though I am not enrolled in program - all I had to do was login using my MS account then was able to d/l preview client .iso)

My questions are as follows -
1) Can I upgrade to what seems to be the final build to be released at some point this.summer without being enrolled in insider's program? And, if so, will I get updates for it (right now I am on 22000.708 21H2 build)??

2) For those who have done what I propose to do, did you have any major issues (eg. stability, broken apps,, etc.). Or have things been fairly stable with only minor issues??

I have a 3 yr. old ASUS AMD laptop that has all the updated drivers installed with, of course, an up-to-date backup just in case things go belly up!

Look forward to your expertise in this matter.

TIA,

Ray
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It is rather temperamental and you may not get updates (I have experienced it both ways i.e. one one pc, it updated, on another it did not but I never determined why).

Having said that, it will only be cumulative updates now until release, and I doubt we will get too many of those if previous patterns are followed. If you choose to upgrade, I suggest you join the Beta programme and set the option to leave the Insider programme on official release.

In general, it is considered quite stable by most members here, but as with everything no guarantee for all users.

I strongly recommend you make an image backup first of current installation, so you can revert to it if things go pear-shaped (not that likely but not impossible) - I see you say you have made a backup - not obvious what type though.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Zenbook 14
    CPU
    I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB soldered
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop OLED screen
    Screen Resolution
    2880x1800 touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
    PSU
    Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
    Keyboard
    Built in UK keybd
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
    Internet Speed
    900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

    Macrium Reflect Home V8
    Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
    Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
Athanasian_Creed said:
I downloaded the 22621 .iso from MS insider's site (though I am not enrolled in program - all I had to do was login using my MS account then was able to d/l preview client .iso)
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Your MS account must have joined the Insider program at some time in the past, just signing in with an MS account isn't sufficient. I'm not an Insider so I had to use UUPDump to get an ISO.

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Athanasian_Creed said:
2) For those who have done what I propose to do, did you have any major issues (eg. stability, broken apps,, etc.). Or have things been fairly stable with only minor issues??
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I have had 22H2 running on an unsupported Lenovo Yoga 11e laptop since build 22593. It has received all subsequent updates and is now on 22621.1. I have found no significant issues.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October 2021 it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update, and 24H2 on 3rd October 2024 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 24H2.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
Drica said:
No, one is the build number other is the revision number.
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Your opinion - clearly -- but WHERE is the citation from MS to support your claim?

Posters here spout opinions all the time, but for these to be taken as facts, they need the citation from MS to back that up.

Unlike others, I provided the citation from MS in my post.

In addition, when I run "winver", I get:
Version 21H2 (OS Build 22000.708)
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So, once again, MS is saying the OS Build designation includes both the 22000 and the 708. There is nothing there about the 708 being a "revision number".
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built
    CPU
    Ryzen 5600X
    Motherboard
    ASRock Steel Legend
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GT 710
    Sound Card
    None
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23",24", 19" - flat panels
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1200
    Hard Drives
    None - only M.2 SATA and NVMe drives
    PSU
    750W
    Case
    Antec
    Cooling
    stock Wraith cooler
    Keyboard
    Corsair gaming
    Mouse
    Logitech M720
    Internet Speed
    1Gb
Bree said:
Your MS account must have joined the Insider program at some time in the past, just signing in with an MS account isn't sufficient. I'm not an Insider so I had to use UUPDump to get an ISO.

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I have had 22H2 running on an unsupported Lenovo Yoga 11e laptop since build 22593. It has received all subsequent updates and is now on 22621.1. I have found no significant issues.
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Hmmm.. this is how I get Insider ISO's - haven't been an Insider for centuries - I think last was Win 10 Tech Preview or something - wonder when the cut off was?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows
Mark Phelps said:
Your opinion - clearly -- but WHERE is the citation from MS to support your claim?

Posters here spout opinions all the time, but for these to be taken as facts, they need the citation from MS to back that up.

Unlike others, I provided the citation from MS in my post.

In addition, when I run "winver", I get:

So, once again, MS is saying the OS Build designation includes both the 22000 and the 708. There is nothing there about the 708 being a "revision number".
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I remember a post in WWW.Bedrockforums.com where a Mr F Flintstone and a Mr B Rubble were endlessly debating this point. The MicroRock reps (Wilma and Betty) just laughed at the inanity of it all.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Zenbook 14
    CPU
    I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB soldered
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop OLED screen
    Screen Resolution
    2880x1800 touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
    PSU
    Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
    Keyboard
    Built in UK keybd
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
    Internet Speed
    900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

    Macrium Reflect Home V8
    Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
    Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
cereberus said:
I remember a post in WWW.Bedrockforums.com where a Mr F Flintstone and a Mr B Rubble were endlessly debating this point. The MicroRock reps (Wilma and Betty) just laughed at the inanity of it all.
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I was just thinking something similar, though maybe less politely worded.....
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro (24H2 RP)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer AN515-54
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-9300H CPU @ 2.40GHz 2.40 GHz
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce GTX 1650, Intel UHD 630
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer CB272D
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    256GB and 1T SSD
    Keyboard
    Logitech K375S
    Mouse
    Logitech M510
    Internet Speed
    250MB
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • Operating System
    Win 11 Pro (Insider Dev Channel, unsupported)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell E6430
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3540M CPU @ 3.00GHz 3.00 GHz (non-compliant)
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics 4000, NVIDIA NVS 5200M
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
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