Rad25
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Should i use Dev Build for Primary OS? I like new features but i don't know about stability.
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Windows 11 Dev for Primary OS?
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Hi & Welcome,
It all depends on your knowledge and your ability to tinker, along with tons of patience.
If you intend to have a fully reliable platform, ready to go when you are, you should not be using a Dev build.
BTW, kindly fill out your system specs in your profile.
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- OS
- Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
- Computer type
- Laptop
- Manufacturer/Model
- ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. TUF Gaming FX705GM
- CPU
- 2.20 gigahertz Intel i7-8750H Hyper-threaded 12 cores
- Motherboard
- ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. FX705GM 1.0
- Memory
- 24428 Megabytes
- Graphics Card(s)
- Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630 / NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060
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- Intel(R) Display Audio / Realtek(R) Audio
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- Integrated Monitor (17.3"vis)
- Screen Resolution
- FHD 1920X1080 16:9
- Hard Drives
- 2 SSD SATA/NVM Express 1.3
WDS500G2B0A-00SM50 500.1 GB
WDCSDAPNUW-1002 256 GB
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- 19V DC 6.32 A 120 W
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- Dual Fans
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- MS Bluetooth
- Internet Speed
- Fiber 1GB Cox -us & IGB Orange-fr
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- VMs of Windows 11 stable/Beta/Dev/Canary
VM of XeroLinux- Arch based & Debian 13 (Trixie)
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- Operating System
- Windows 11 Insider Canary
- Computer type
- Laptop
- Manufacturer/Model
- ASUS X751BP
- CPU
- AMD Dual Core A6-9220
- Motherboard
- ASUS
- Memory
- 8 GB
- Graphics card(s)
- AMD Radeon R5 M420
- Sound Card
- Realtek
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- 17.3
- Screen Resolution
- 1600X900 16:9
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- 1TB 5400RPM
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- Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
Well even MS recommend you do not user Insider versions as your main OS.
Why not use release version aa main (host) OS but install Insider version in a native boot dual boot virtual hard drive.
That way you can test Insider version as much as you like but still have stable OS to fall back on.
This is what I do and so do many of the seasoned Insiders.
Alternatively run the Insider version in a virtual machine.
The tutorial section shows how to do the above.
Think about it - what are you going to do if you need to something important/urgent but the Insider version falls over?
Why not use release version aa main (host) OS but install Insider version in a native boot dual boot virtual hard drive.
That way you can test Insider version as much as you like but still have stable OS to fall back on.
This is what I do and so do many of the seasoned Insiders.
Alternatively run the Insider version in a virtual machine.
The tutorial section shows how to do the above.
Think about it - what are you going to do if you need to something important/urgent but the Insider version falls over?
My Computer
System One
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- OS
- Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
- Computer type
- Laptop
- Manufacturer/Model
- ASUS Zenbook 14
- CPU
- I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
- Motherboard
- Yep, Laptop has one.
- Memory
- 16 GB soldered
- Graphics Card(s)
- Integrated Intel Iris XE
- Sound Card
- Realtek built in
- Monitor(s) Displays
- laptop OLED screen
- Screen Resolution
- 2880x1800 touchscreen
- Hard Drives
- 1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
- PSU
- Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
- Case
- Yep, got one
- Cooling
- Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
- Keyboard
- Built in UK keybd
- Mouse
- Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
- Internet Speed
- 900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
- Browser
- Edge
- Antivirus
- Defender
- Other Info
- TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)
Macrium Reflect Home V8
Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
Although rare, there have actually been data loss bugs in dev builds before. If that does not bother you, go for it!
My Computers
System One System Two
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- OS
- Win11 Pro 24H2
- Computer type
- PC/Desktop
- Manufacturer/Model
- Self-built
- CPU
- Intel i7 11700K
- Motherboard
- ASUS Prime Z590-A MB
- Memory
- 64GB (Waiting for warranty replacement of another 64GB for 128GB total)
- Graphics Card(s)
- No GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
- Sound Card
- Integrated
- Monitor(s) Displays
- HP Envy 32
- Screen Resolution
- 2560 x 1440
- Hard Drives
- 1 x 1TB NVMe SSD
1 x 2TB NVMe SSD
1 x 4TB NVMe SSD
3 x 512GB 2.5" SSD
1 x 4TB 2.5" SSD
5 x 8TB Seagate Barracuda HDD
- PSU
- Corsair HX850i
- Case
- Corsair iCUE RGB 5000X mid tower case
- Cooling
- Noctua NF-S12A chromax.black.swap case fans (Qty. 7) & Home Computer Specifications, Configuration, and Usage Notes General Specifications ASUS Prime Z590-A motherboard, serial number M1M0KC222467ARP Intel Core i7-11700K CPU (11th Gen Rocket Lake / LGA 1200 Socket) 128GB Crucial Ballistix RGB DDR4 3200 MHz DRAM (4 x 32GB) Corsair iCUE RGB 5000X mid tower case Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black CPU cooler Noctua NF-S12A chromax.black.swap case fans (Qty. 7) & Corsair LL-120 RGB Fans (Qty. 3)
- Keyboard
- Corsair K70 Max RGB Magnetic Keyboard
- Mouse
- Logitech MX Master 3
- Internet Speed
- 1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
- Browser
- Edge
- Antivirus
- Windows Defender
- Other Info
- The five 8TB drives and three 512GB SSDs are part of a DrivePool using StableBit DrivePool software. The three SSDs are devoted purely to caching for the 8TB drives. All of the important data is stored in triplicate so that I can withstand simultaneous failure of 2 disks.
Networking: 2.5Gbps Ethernet and WiFi 6e
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- Operating System
- Win11 Pro 23H2
- Computer type
- Laptop
- Manufacturer/Model
- Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
- CPU
- Intel i7-1255U
- Memory
- 16 GB
- Graphics card(s)
- Intel Iris Xe Graphics
- Sound Card
- Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
- Monitor(s) Displays
- 13.3-inch IPS Display
- Screen Resolution
- WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
- Hard Drives
- 2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
- PSU
- USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
- Mouse
- Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
- Keyboard
- Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
- Internet Speed
- 1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
- Browser
- Edge
- Antivirus
- Windows Defender
- Other Info
- WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
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Any tutorial?
Installation failed using this guide:
Windows 11 – Dual Boot with virtual hard disk, without partitioning - eKiwi-Blog.de
Install Windows 11 in VHDX file, dual boot next to first Windows. Windows can be installed multiple times on a hard disk without any ...
ekiwi-blog.de
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Create Windows 11 Virtual Hard Disk (VHDX) at Boot to Native Boot
This tutorial will show you how to create a Windows 11 Virtual Hard Disk (VHDX) file at boot and natively boot it to dual boot with Windows 10 or Windows 11. Native Boot allows you to create a virtual hard disk (VHDX), install Windows to it, and then boot it up, either on your PC side-by-side...
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My Computers
System One System Two
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- OS
- Windows 11 Pro 24H2
- Computer type
- PC/Desktop
- Manufacturer/Model
- Intel NUC12WSHi7
- CPU
- 12th Gen Intel Core i7-1260P, 2100 MHz
- Motherboard
- NUC12WSBi7
- Memory
- 64 GB
- Graphics Card(s)
- Intel Iris Xe
- Sound Card
- built-in Realtek HD audio
- Monitor(s) Displays
- Dell U3219Q
- Screen Resolution
- 3840x2160 @ 60Hz
- Hard Drives
- Samsung SSD 990 PRO 1TB
- Keyboard
- CODE 104-Key Mechanical with Cherry MX Clears
- Antivirus
- Microsoft Defender
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- Operating System
- Linux Mint 21.2 (Cinnamon)
- Computer type
- PC/Desktop
- Manufacturer/Model
- Intel NUC8i5BEH
- CPU
- Intel Core i5-8259U CPU @ 2.30GHz
- Memory
- 32 GB
- Graphics card(s)
- Iris Plus 655
- Keyboard
- CODE 104-Key Mechanical with Cherry MX Clears
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It's working with Windows 10 ISO but not with Windows 11 (installation failed).
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You can just clone an existing installation to a virtual hard drive, then add a boot entry.
The vhdx file needs to be on a separate drive. If you only have one drive, it needs to be on a separate partition (you cannot clone to same drive/partition as existing OS).
There are many cloning tools that can be used.
The vhdx file needs to be on a separate drive. If you only have one drive, it needs to be on a separate partition (you cannot clone to same drive/partition as existing OS).
There are many cloning tools that can be used.
My Computer
System One
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- OS
- Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
- Computer type
- Laptop
- Manufacturer/Model
- ASUS Zenbook 14
- CPU
- I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
- Motherboard
- Yep, Laptop has one.
- Memory
- 16 GB soldered
- Graphics Card(s)
- Integrated Intel Iris XE
- Sound Card
- Realtek built in
- Monitor(s) Displays
- laptop OLED screen
- Screen Resolution
- 2880x1800 touchscreen
- Hard Drives
- 1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
- PSU
- Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
- Case
- Yep, got one
- Cooling
- Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
- Keyboard
- Built in UK keybd
- Mouse
- Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
- Internet Speed
- 900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
- Browser
- Edge
- Antivirus
- Defender
- Other Info
- TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)
Macrium Reflect Home V8
Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
Just to reiterate an earlier reply, when I was first in the Win10 Insider Preview some time ago it was firmly stated not to use the IP on the only machine or a production machine due to the various changes that would be forthcoming which had the possibility of breaking things. I've maintained at least 2 computers even after leaving the program, fortunately some were given me for parts but good for learning how to fix at little to no cost using salvaged parts.
My Computers
System One System Two
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- OS
- Win11 Pro RTM
- Computer type
- Laptop
- Manufacturer/Model
- Dell Vostro 3400
- CPU
- Intel Core i5 11th Gen. 2.40GHz
- Memory
- 12GB
- Hard Drives
- 256GB SSD NVMe M.2
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- Operating System
- Windows 11 Pro RTM x64
- Computer type
- PC/Desktop
- Manufacturer/Model
- Dell Vostro 5890
- CPU
- Intel Core i5 10th Gen. 2.90GHz
- Memory
- 16GB
- Graphics card(s)
- Onboard, no VGA, using a DisplayPort-to-VGA adapter
- Monitor(s) Displays
- 24" Dell
- Hard Drives
- 512GB SSD NVMe, 4TB Seagate HDD
- Browser
- Firefox, Edge
- Antivirus
- Windows Defender/Microsoft Security
Another one here.
Native Boot Windows 11 Virtual Hard Disk (VHDX)
This tutorial will show you how to boot a Windows 11 VHDX file natively to dual boot with Windows 10 or Windows 11. Native Boot allows you to create a virtual hard disk (VHDX), install Windows to it, and then boot it up, either on your PC side-by-side with your existing installation, or on a...
www.elevenforum.com
Just don't get too carried away (like I did)
My Computers
System One System Two
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- OS
- Windows 11 Home
- Computer type
- Laptop
- Manufacturer/Model
- Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
- CPU
- AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
- Memory
- 8GB
- Graphics Card(s)
- Radeon Graphics
- Monitor(s) Displays
- laptop screen
- Screen Resolution
- 1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
- Hard Drives
- 1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
- Internet Speed
- 50 Mbps
- Browser
- Edge, Firefox
- Antivirus
- Defender
- Other Info
- fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October 2021 it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update, and 24H2 on 3rd October 2024 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 24H2.
My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.
My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.
My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.
My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Hyper-V host machine.
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- Operating System
- Windows 11 Pro
- Computer type
- Laptop
- Manufacturer/Model
- Dell Latitude E4310
- CPU
- Intel® Core™ i5-520M
- Motherboard
- 0T6M8G
- Memory
- 8GB
- Graphics card(s)
- (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
- Screen Resolution
- 1366x768
- Hard Drives
- 500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
- Browser
- Firefox, Edge
- Antivirus
- Defender
- Other Info
- unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.
My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.
My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.
My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Hyper-V host machine.
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I use the Microsoft MCT/Media Creation Tool. It allows downloading an .iso file used to burn the bootable DVD [probably DVD-R/DL] or it will write the bootable USB thumb drive of 8GB, 16GB or 32GB.
My Computers
System One System Two
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- OS
- Win11 Pro RTM
- Computer type
- Laptop
- Manufacturer/Model
- Dell Vostro 3400
- CPU
- Intel Core i5 11th Gen. 2.40GHz
- Memory
- 12GB
- Hard Drives
- 256GB SSD NVMe M.2
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- Operating System
- Windows 11 Pro RTM x64
- Computer type
- PC/Desktop
- Manufacturer/Model
- Dell Vostro 5890
- CPU
- Intel Core i5 10th Gen. 2.90GHz
- Memory
- 16GB
- Graphics card(s)
- Onboard, no VGA, using a DisplayPort-to-VGA adapter
- Monitor(s) Displays
- 24" Dell
- Hard Drives
- 512GB SSD NVMe, 4TB Seagate HDD
- Browser
- Firefox, Edge
- Antivirus
- Windows Defender/Microsoft Security
- Local time
- 10:08 AM
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- 19
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- Windows 11 Pro
I installed (26200.5518) Dev Build using ISO in Oracle VirtualBox and i don't have any new features like with Windows Update (Dev Channel).
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It is fairly rare the official Dev iso matches the latest bulld.
It does not really matter if you which way you do it as it will need to update to latest version.
I just use latest release version iso, install it, join Insider and update to latest Dev build.
An alternative is to create your own dev iso using uup (see tutorials) but frankly by the time you have done this, it does not save much time over just updating as above.
My Computer
System One
-
- OS
- Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
- Computer type
- Laptop
- Manufacturer/Model
- ASUS Zenbook 14
- CPU
- I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
- Motherboard
- Yep, Laptop has one.
- Memory
- 16 GB soldered
- Graphics Card(s)
- Integrated Intel Iris XE
- Sound Card
- Realtek built in
- Monitor(s) Displays
- laptop OLED screen
- Screen Resolution
- 2880x1800 touchscreen
- Hard Drives
- 1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
- PSU
- Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
- Case
- Yep, got one
- Cooling
- Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
- Keyboard
- Built in UK keybd
- Mouse
- Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
- Internet Speed
- 900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
- Browser
- Edge
- Antivirus
- Defender
- Other Info
- TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)
Macrium Reflect Home V8
Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
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