Windows 11 Laptop- lock screen/screen saver

Hi all

Bought a new laptop last week to dj with. I use native instruments software and a controller

Been having a pretty frustrating time with the screen saver/sleep function kicking in after a few minutes of inactivity, killing the power to my controller and causing sound levels to die completely

I've been through the power and battery settings pretty exhaustively, set the laptop to sleep never, screen saver off etc. Nothing seems to work.

would love some assistance

I suspect that what you are describing is the action of a power state called S0 Modern standby [aka S0 Low power idle]. In order to find out please would you post the response to this command -
PowerCfg -a

All the best,
Denis

Search for and open Control Panel. Click top right to show large icons rather than groups. Double-click Power Settings and then click on "Change plan options" next to the selected (if more than one). Make sure the screen never turns off when in AC power and the computer never sleeps. To see if you have any screensaver and disable it, go to Settings -> Personalization -> Lock Screen and click the screensaver option.

thirdmanonmoon,

I suggest you take no action until your PowerCfg -a results have been examined.

Denis

You have S0 Modern standby [aka S0 Low power idle].
- S0 Modern standby [aka S0 Low power idle] is an aggressive idle condition which progressively shuts down user-initiated processes when the display goes off.
- Your computer does not sleep in the sense that we have all come to use the term i.e. S3 Sleep. S0 Modern standby bears no relation to S3 Sleep.
- S0 Modern standby is not so energy-efficient that you can leave your computer sitting there in the corner on battery power until tonight then still have enough power left to allow you to use it for a few hours. S3 Sleep does allow that. I have just had an opportunity to experiment with an S0 Modern standby computer [HP Envy 17-cr0001na] and its rate of power use in S0 Modern standby was about 0.5WHr an hour which is the same as the results were the last time I measured S3 Sleep power consumption.

There are, in effect, four Power/Computer states for an S0 Modern standby computer
- Computer on, Monitor on - Work can be done on the computer.
- Computer on, Monitor off = S0 Modern standby - The monitor turning off initiates S0 Modern standby i.e. aggressive idle. It progressively shuts down user-initiated processes. No user-desired activities start, only MS-desired ones such as WU & their built-in email app.
- Hibernate
- Off


I went through several different stages in my approach to S0 Modern standby:-

1 Acceptance I adapted to S0 Modern standby by just accepting its behaviour and by using hibernation when I had been used to using S3 Sleep.

2 Stopping it kicking in by using a workaround When I got even more fed up with S0 Modern standby, I set my monitor to always stay on [it's the monitor turning off, as set in Power options, that starts S0 Modern standby] and I set a very dark screensaver to come on after a desired time so the screen wouldn't be staring at me all day.

3 Disabling S0 Modern standby Eventually, I just used the tutorial to disable it.
Disable Modern Standby in Windows 10 and Windows 11 - ElevenForumTutorials
- - The procedure for disabling it is very straightforward and is readily reversible.
- - In my case, S3 Sleep remained disabled so I carried on having to use hibernation as a second-best choice. But some people have found that disabling S0 Modern standby enabled S3 Sleep.
- - In my case, Task scheduler can still not wake the computer from hibernation despite all the correct setitngs being in place. Others have reported that theirs worked OK once S0 Modern standby had been disabled.
- - In my case, my WiFi adapter sometimes fails to restart properly [no networks detected] when it comes out of hibernation so I run a little script that disables it then immediately re-enables it after which it works correctly again.

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Anybody who is going to keep S0 Modern standby could usefully consider
Enable or Disable Modern Standby Network Connectivity in Windows 10 and 11 - ElevenForumTutorials

And anybody who is going to keep S0 Modern standby might want to be able to see records of the transitions between power states in Event viewer -
Event viewer, Custom view, Power - Sleep-Hibernate-S0 transitions [post #40] - TenForums
This works in S0 Modern standby computers as well as in proper computers.



All the best,
Denis

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@Ghot

I've now finished fiddling with my post #6.

All the best,
Denis

Try3 said:

You have S0 Modern standby [aka S0 Low power idle].
Some people like it.I think it's a curse that has been developed without any consideration being given to user requirements.

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It almost cost me a laptop. One night after doing some work on my laptop I decided to just close the lid instead of shutting it off. The next day I got up early and found that my laptop was so hot it wouldn't do anything. I was sure it was fried. I unplugged it and to my surprise after it finally cooled down it started working again. I did find that the laptop has the option to turn off Modern Standby.

Winuser said:

I did find that the laptop has the option to turn off Modern Standby.

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That's an interesting comment.
You mean your Bios had a setting for turning it off/on? [Your HP Envy x360 15-ds1083cl?]

I don't recall ever seeing a post by a human being that explains, "S0 Modern standby gives me these benefits: .....".
The comparison between the time S0 Modern standby takes for its "instant on" and resuming from S3 Sleep cannot be what makes it attractive. By the time you've scratched your head & thought about what you're doing S3 Sleep will have resumed as well. Anything quicker is wasted.


All the best,
Denis

Try3 said:

That's an interesting comment.
You mean your Bios had a setting for turning it off/on? [Your HP Envy x360 15-ds1083cl?]

I don't recall ever seeing a post by a human being that explains, "S0 Modern standby gives me these benefits: .....".
The comparison between the time S0 Modern standby takes for its "instant on" and resuming from S3 Sleep cannot be what makes it attractive. By the time you've scratched your head & thought about what you're doing S3 Sleep will have resumed as well. Anything quicker is wasted.


All the best,
Denis

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I don't remember how I did it. The only thing I do remember is that I had to do a lot of Googling.

Try3 said:

That's an interesting comment.
You mean your Bios had a setting for turning it off/on? [Your HP Envy x360 15-ds1083cl?]

I don't recall ever seeing a post by a human being that explains, "S0 Modern standby gives me these benefits: .....".
The comparison between the time S0 Modern standby takes for its "instant on" and resuming from S3 Sleep cannot be what makes it attractive. By the time you've scratched your head & thought about what you're doing S3 Sleep will have resumed as well. Anything quicker is wasted.


All the best,
Denis

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I just checked to see if I posted how I did it and found this. It doesn't say how I did it though. Data transfer stops because laptop goes in to lazy-mode

OK.
It sounds to me that you might have found & done
Disable Modern Standby in Windows 10 and Windows 11 - ElevenForumTutorials


All the best,
Denis

Winuser said:

... I decided to just close the lid instead of shutting it off...

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I shut 'em down, always..., I don't even leave it plugged in!

Edwin said:

I shut 'em down, always..., I don't even leave it plugged in!

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That was the first and so far the last time that ever happened.

Try3 said:

I have just had an opportunity to experiment with an S0 Modern standby computer [HP Envy 17-cr0001na] and its rate of power use in S0 Modern standby was about 0.5WHr an hour which is the same as the results were the last time I measured S3 Sleep power consumption.

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I've just corrected my post #6 above with this info.

All the best,
Denis