Windows 11 takes long to boot

hcccs · Mar 7, 2025

Steve311 said:
Check the task manager and uninstall not used apps. Also disable startup apps as many as possible.

Already done that! No change.

pietcorus2 · Mar 7, 2025

hcccs said:
Already done that! No change.

Yes , so did I .........still 3 times as long , without pass/pin !
So I keep using a pincode for a faster boottime................
btw, will have to get used to the pincode , coz tried really everything , nothing fixed my boottime , without pass/pin.............!!

andrew129260 · Mar 9, 2025

hcccs said:
Apart from the SSD system disc I have 3 x 2TB Seagate drives which I bought used when I built my system two years ago. I now tested to set all three Offline and rebooted and as I suspected, the boot time from Beep to login screen came down to 20 seconds. When set the first disc Online again it took 30 seconds for it to appear in Explorer file list. Maybe you can see from the CrystalDiscInfo clip whether my disc needs replacing?

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I don't see anything obviously bad in the values. However, if you set the priority in the bios as I had stated, the boot time should not be affected regardless of it being connected at boot or not.

I would replace it though as drives are quite cheap, you can always turn it into an enclosure if you want to make it a nice external drive.

hcccs · Mar 18, 2025

andrew129260 said:
I don't see anything obviously bad in the values. However, if you set the priority in the bios as I had stated, the boot time should not be affected regardless of it being connected at boot or not.

I would replace it though as drives are quite cheap, you can always turn it into an enclosure if you want to make it a nice external drive.

OK, I now got two other 2TB used discs, one with zero seek error rate and one with low values. I'm now down to 30 seconds boot time. I've ordered a M.2 SSD from Amazon and another SSD 2.5". With those in the system the boot will be a lot faster - I hope.

hcccs · Mar 19, 2025

hcccs said:
OK, I now got two other 2TB used discs, one with zero seek error rate and one with low values. I'm now down to 30 seconds boot time. I've ordered a M.2 SSD from Amazon and another SSD 2.5". With those in the system the boot will be a lot faster - I hope.

OK, today I installed the Crucial PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD of 500GB. I created a partition and formatted it which took 15 minutes. After that everything I do on the PC takes ten times longer than before. I downloaded a special driver for it and installed it with a .msi file but the SSD doesn't seem to pick it up - it still has a driver from 2016. Is just that the driver info in Device Manager is wrong or never changes? Anyway, what is wrong with my system, is there something I have missed? Help!

PenPusher · Mar 19, 2025

hcccs said:
OK, today I installed the Crucial PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD of 500GB. I created a partition and formatted it which took 15 minutes. After that everything I do on the PC takes ten times longer than before. I downloaded a special driver for it and installed it with a .msi file but the SSD doesn't seem to pick it up - it still has a driver from 2016. Is just that the driver info in Device Manager is wrong or never changes? Anyway, what is wrong with my system, is there something I have missed? Help!

15mins to prepare a M.2 drive??? my system does that in seconds! for a new WD SN850x Black 2Tb Nvme.
I just use the standard MS driver. (Wed 21 June 2006)
What Sata ports are you using? ... Intel based systems are picky about Sata "port sharing" with USB ones. And also port sharing with NVME drives!
I don’t know anything about AMD systems!!

Josey Wales · Mar 19, 2025

My machine boots pretty fast but when it comes to shut down, it takes some time.I would guess maybe closing all of those processes takes time??

pietcorus2 · Mar 19, 2025

Josey Wales said:
My machine boots pretty fast

With or without pin/password...........??

PenPusher · Mar 19, 2025

Mines on autologin, last boot took 11.5 secs

Josey Wales · Mar 19, 2025

pietcorus2 said:
With or without pin/password...........??

With pin

hcccs · Mar 19, 2025

PenPusher said:
15mins to prepare a M.2 drive??? my system does that in seconds! for a new WD SN850x Black 2Tb Nvme.
I just use the standard MS driver. (Wed 21 June 2006)
What Sata ports are you using? ... Intel based systems are picky about Sata "port sharing" with USB ones. And also port sharing with NVME drives!
I don’t know anything about AMD systems!!

I read on the net that zeroing an SSD can take some time. In the guide for my mobo it says that "When SATA/PCIe mode M.2 device is installed, the M.2 socket shares bandwidth with the SATA6G_5/6 ports". I have SATA port 5 connected so that could be something to address. That doesn't mean the system should be sluggish. In CrystalDiscInfo the new M.2 SSD is not see at all. Is there some crucial thing you need to do which I have overlooked? Anything in BIOS?

PenPusher · Mar 19, 2025

You need PCIe mode... if you can... so you don't share PCIe lanes. Why do you need to zero a SSD? do you mean format?

hcccs · Mar 19, 2025

PenPusher said:
You need PCIe mode... if you can... so you don't share PCIe lanes. Why do you need to zero a SSD? do you mean format?

The M.2 socket is PCIe. The M.2 socket shares bandwidth with SATA port 5/6 but it shouldn't stop th system.

PenPusher · Mar 19, 2025

Boot times will be longer due to PCIe lane sharing!
So turn off Sata port 5/6 and just use ports 1/4.
That's how I setup my bios.

hcccs · Mar 19, 2025

PenPusher said:
Boot times will be longer due to PCIe lane sharing!

Boot time is not a problem - it is now 30 seconds. The M.2 SSD disc is visible in Device Manager and in Explorer but not in CrystalDiscInfo and Crucial Storage Executive.

PenPusher · Mar 19, 2025

Use standard MS drivers for the M.2 drive.
Can you show us a screen shot of the "Disk Management"

hcccs · Mar 19, 2025

PenPusher said:
Use standard MS drivers for the M.2 drive.
Can you show us a screen shot of the "Disk Management"

Right now the M.2 SSD has disappeared from Device Manager and Disk Management. When I get them back tomorrow I'll send a screen shot.

andrew129260 · Mar 19, 2025

hcccs said:
I read on the net that zeroing an SSD can take some time

DO NOT ZERO A SSD DRIVE. This will wear the life out of it rapidly!

You only need to initialize it to be able to use it.

Zero a drive is only when you need to make data very hard to recover, as in selling the drive to someone.

I don't understand why you keep ignoring my advice about the bios.....

hcccs · Mar 20, 2025

andrew129260 said:
DO NOT ZERO A SSD DRIVE. This will wear the life out of it rapidly!
You only need to initialize it to be able to use it.
Zero a drive is only when you need to make data very hard to recover, as in selling the drive to someone.

I don't understand why you keep ignoring my advice about the bios.....

I just assumed I was zeroizing it. I did in fact a quick format but it took 15 minutes. Today running Disk Management the SSD drive came up as Not allocated with a question to initialize it which I tried to do. It failed. I rebooted and ran Disk Management again. Connecting to Virtual Disk Service took 45 seconds and Loading config info took 3 minutes. Then the SSD was there as Online and Healthy. The disk doesn't come up in CrystalDiskInfo. Here is the new disc in Disk Management (NEW). I'm still wondering why the driver is from 2006 when I have downloaded and installed a driver specifically for the M.2 SSD.

PenPusher · Mar 20, 2025

When you open "Device Manager" you need to be looking at "Storage Controllers" for the "Crucial" driver.

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