Windows blocking HTTP sites

wimorrison · May 28, 2023

Winuser said:
I tried the links in Edge Canary and they opened without even getting a warning.

That is what I was expected - there is a setting somewhere within Windows that has changed and it is affecting all browsers - I need to find out what that setting is to restore the services.

There are reports of this on the web, but no definitive resolution with people fixing it by randomly trying different things.

FreeBooter · May 28, 2023

z3r010 said:
@FreeBooter this thread is looking like a spam fest for your videos

Sorry @z3r010, i make sure i cut down on my video instructions.

glasskuter · May 28, 2023

wimorrison said:
I must have changed them in 4 different browsers then because they all work correctly (which I didn’t)

Actually, no. It's the machines that are letting http sites load automatically without a prompt to the user that are incorrect. Default for all modern browsers is to prompt the user before loading an http site.

I'll go out on a limb here and make a wild guess. Maybe it could be that way due to one old computer that was upgraded from Windows 7 to 10 and IE settings were imported into another browser. Who knows how it happened. I just know each modern browser has a setting to control it.

Browser syncing also comes into play with its settings. Do all your browser's sync on all computers?

wimorrison · May 28, 2023

I think that you are missing something extremely important.

There are multiple browsers being used, Edge, Edge Beta, Chrome, Safari, and Brave which I tried for 5 mins as a test. Whilst between Edge on one machine and another there is syncing of passwords and accounts and extensions they don’t sync settings and if that was the case why would the setting work on one PC and not the other?

Why is it that ALL browsers on one machine are affected yet on the other machine (on the same network using the same DHCP) there are absolutely no issues?

The only thing that is common to all browsers on the faulty PC is the OS and network, but as the network works perfectly for another machine, and phone and tablet it isn’t the network, ergo it can only be an OS setting, and not a browser setting.

Winuser · May 28, 2023

I'm out in my shed using my mini pc and Edge Canary. The links opened without any warnings. It must be because I'm using Edge Canary. My mini pc is running Windows Defender and my Desktop is using Eset Internet Security.

Winuser · May 28, 2023

glasskuter said:
Actually, no. It's the machines that are letting http sites load automatically without a prompt to the user that are incorrect.

They are not opening. The OP dosen't even get the option to continue or cancle. I'm the one who posted that the web pages are opening. I tried with two different compters. On my desktop eventhough it's possible I made a setting change, I doubt it. On my mini pc I just recently set it up and I know I didn't change any settings. My desktop is running Eset Internet Security and the mini pc is running Windows Defender. The only thing they have in common is that I tried when I was using the Canary build of Edge.

Winuser · May 28, 2023

I just installed Firefox on my mini pc. I get the same results with Edge, Edge Canary and Firefox. My desktop is running the Canary builds and my mini pc is running 22H2 build 22621.1702.

Winuser · May 28, 2023

@wimorrison, This is strange. You get access and I can't stop access. I would like to try different http sites but I don't know how to find any.

Winuser · May 28, 2023

I have an update. I'm back in the house and using my desktop. When I click on the link in Edge Canary the page loads and when I checked Edge has turned on extra security. I tried the link in Firefox and I get the warning and have to click continue. This is a pic of the Firefox warning on my desktop. I wonder why setting the option in Edge to disabled doesn't work.

Winuser · May 29, 2023

I have decided to stop using any version of Edge and go back to Firefox until I find out why HTTP sites are being loaded without any warning.

glasskuter · May 29, 2023

Using this poster's lnks to test with , I can ascertain that even though Edge detects it as an unsecure site, it opens without prompt in both Edge and Edge Canary, but FF blocks it giving me the option to accept the risk. Something has definitely happened in Edge.

Fabler2 · May 30, 2023

It must be an OS setting somewhere as both Edge and Firefox (both on default security settings) opens the site immediately for me.

Don't know if it's been suggested before but might be worth running the Network and Internet troubleshooter.

Winuser · May 30, 2023

glasskuter said:
Using this poster's lnks to test with , I can ascertain that even though Edge detects it as an unsecure site, it opens without prompt in both Edge and Edge Canary, but FF blocks it giving me the option to accept the risk. Something has definitely happened in Edge.

At least I now know that I'm not the only one this is happening too. I was surprised to find that the option to block HTTP sites from loading wasn't set as default when I installed Firefox on my new mini pc.

Winuser · May 30, 2023

Fabler2 said:
It must be an OS setting somewhere as both Edge and Firefox (both on default security settings) opens the site immediately for me.

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Don't know if it's been suggested before but might be worth running the Network and Internet troubleshooter.

You have to turn it on in Firefox.

Fabler2 · May 30, 2023

Winuser said:
You have to turn it on in Firefox.

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Yes thanks but won't bother. MBAM Browser Guard is good enough.

Winuser · May 30, 2023

Fabler2 said:
Yes thanks but won't bother. MBAM Browser Guard is good enough.

I have Browser Guard running on my new desktop. I bought a lifetime license for MBAM years ago.

caramba · May 30, 2023

"The two sites that have caused me to notice the issues are (...)"
So you were browsing the Internet and all of a sudden when you tried to enter these two sites the problem appeared, right?

caramba · May 31, 2023

Hi wimorrison,
two more questions:
1. what is the answer to ping + a full address of the problematic sites in command prompt?
2. have you already checked Settings > Apps > Default Apps > Choose defaults by file type ?

wimorrison · May 31, 2023

caramba · May 31, 2023

Thank you. So the connection is established.
I'll think it over and if I come to any conclusions I will immediately let you know.

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