Sleep Option has Disappeared from Everywhere

pacificSurf · May 15, 2024

I encountered this issue a year ago on a separate laptop and never identified the cause. Posted a thread here. A system restore solved it that time, but I would like to know how else to fix this, and what causes it in the first place.

I now have another New laptop with the same issue. Sleep was working fine on it the first 2 weeks. All updated Windows 11. 14th gen intel thinkbook. And I had not tinkered with any settings recently. Had been using Sleep mode fine, then one day it disappeared from the power menu.

I went through all the tutorials to add it through regedit, cmd, and policy editor, set to "enable". Change Settings that are currently unavailable, ....Its still missing from power options and the power menu

Any ideas?

Edition Windows 11 Pro
Version 22H2
Installed on ‎4/‎29/‎2024
OS build 22621.3527
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22700.1003.0

dacrone · May 15, 2024

this is usually tied to a chipset or graphics driver... have you checked device manager to make sure its not in an error state?

Berton · May 15, 2024

Mine, default install of Win11 Home:

pacificSurf · May 15, 2024

dacrone said:
this is usually tied to a chipset or graphics driver... have you checked device manager to make sure its not in an error state?

What should I look for in Device manager? I dont see any Yellow Triangle exclamation marks that indicate an issue

dacrone · May 15, 2024

looks fine from the screenshot. run this command (since hibernate is disabled on your machine, it should only sleep). Post back if it works or not..

Code:

rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,SetSuspendState 0,1,0

pacificSurf · May 16, 2024

dacrone said:
looks fine from the screenshot. run this command (since hibernate is disabled on your machine, it should only sleep). Post back if it works or not..

Code:

rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,SetSuspendState 0,1,0

Just ran it in Admin CMD, and the computer went black and into like a hibernate mode. I woke it back up, still no sleep options.

Also weird that there is nothing listed in the drop down boxes of the power options for battery vs plugged in. They are blank. Not sure it has any relevance. but...

dacrone · May 16, 2024

what is the exact make/model of the laptop?

pacificSurf · May 16, 2024

dacrone said:
what is the exact make/model of the laptop?

Lenovo ThinkBook 13x G4 IMH

Is there a full power settings reset I could try via CMD?
Unless it is the same thing as "Restore Default Settings for this Plan" in control panel, which did nothing.

dacrone · May 16, 2024

Code:

powercfg -restoredefaultschemes

is to reset/restore power options. try that.
also - since you have Pro build, look in GPEdit for Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > File Explorer and make sure the Show Sleep is enabled. Obviously your PC is able to sleep, its just a hiccup in the GUI somewhere that it is not displaying the option anywhere. let me know if either of those work.

Fabler2 · May 16, 2024

If you've disabled modern standby then sleep won't be available. It's not on my system anyway.

Disable Modern Standby in Windows 10 and Windows 11 Tutorial

This tutorial will show you how to disable Modern Standby (S0 Low Power Idle) to enable S3 support on a Windows 10 and Windows 11 device. In Windows 10 and Windows 11, there are two power models for PCs: S3 and Modern Standby (S0 Low Power Idle). The S3 power model is an older standard and is...

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pacificSurf · May 16, 2024

Fabler2 said:
If you've disabled modern standby then sleep won't be available. It's not on my system anyway.

Disable Modern Standby in Windows 10 and Windows 11 Tutorial

This tutorial will show you how to disable Modern Standby (S0 Low Power Idle) to enable S3 support on a Windows 10 and Windows 11 device. In Windows 10 and Windows 11, there are two power models for PCs: S3 and Modern Standby (S0 Low Power Idle). The S3 power model is an older standard and is...

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Hmm, I did disable modern standby, but I could have sworn I've been using sleep since then just fine after disabling it.
I though that just turns off the networking/self wake up aspect of sleep.

So what if I re-enable Modern Standby via CMD, but then disable Network Connectivity in Power Options? Should that work to bring back Sleep?

dacrone said:
Code:

powercfg -restoredefaultschemes

is to reset/restore power options. try that.
also - since you have Pro build, look in GPEdit for Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > File Explorer and make sure the Show Sleep is enabled. Obviously your PC is able to sleep, its just a hiccup in the GUI somewhere that it is not displaying the option anywhere. let me know if either of those work.

Sleep is there:

dacrone · May 16, 2024

i've never disabled modern standby, so i cannot attest to that (but its clearly true based on @Fabler2 screenshots provided). please re-enable it and see if that was the culprit.

pacificSurf · May 16, 2024

Okay, thanks! re-enabling modern standby brought Sleep back! As Fabler2 said.

So why people disable Modern Standby in the first place, seem better to Just disable it's feature of "Network Connectivity", and then you still have the option of sleep when desired.

(Although my prior encounter with this issue, I did attempt to re-enable modern stand by and it did not work, and even caused another issue, of Hibernate disappearing. That's a whole another thing, but that did not happen this time luckily so doesnt matter. Never knew what the cause of that was. )

Try3 · May 16, 2024

pacificSurf said:
So why people disable Modern Standby in the first place

Because it is not S3 Sleep. Many, but not all, have found that disabling S0 Modern standby enables S3 Sleep.
Disabling S0 Modern standby - range of experiences - my post #8 - ElevenForum

Even though you now have entries in your user interface saying "Sleep", you do not have S3 Sleep.
S0 Modern standby is an idle condition not a sleep state.

If you ever want to run tasks using Task scheduler then you cannot use those entries labelled as Sleep in your Start menu or in your Power options because doing so inhibits Task scheduler.
If you do want to use Task scheduler then see Running scripts during S0 Modern standby - my post #86 - ElevenForum

All the best,
Denis

pacificSurf · May 16, 2024

Try3 said:
Because it is not S3 Sleep. Many, but not all, have found that disabling S0 Modern standby enables S3 Sleep.
Disabling S0 Modern standby - range of experiences - my post #8 - ElevenForum

Even though you now have entries in your user interface saying "Sleep", you do not have S3 Sleep.
S0 Modern standby is an idle condition not a sleep state.

If you ever want to run tasks using Task scheduler then you cannot use those entries labelled as Sleep in your Start menu or in your Power options because doing so inhibits Task scheduler.
If you do want to use Task scheduler then see Running scripts during S0 Modern standby - my post #86 - ElevenForum

All the best,
Denis

Oh okay thanks, so If I understand it right, what I have is not the original Sleep known as S3 Sleep.
What I have is Modern Standby Sleep known as S0 Sleep (which uses more power) and has network connectivity.
And on some laptops, when you disable this modern standby Sleep (S0), it enables/switches over to the original sleep (S3).
In my case, it does not. I am stuck with Modern Standby Sleep (S0).

I dont want to run any tasks during Modern Standby Sleep (S0) anyways, but if I did, Could I not just re-enable network connectivity and everything back to normal modern standby, instead of using the script you wrote?

Try3 · May 17, 2024

pacificSurf said:
instead of using the script you wrote

My script in that post #86 was just an example. It is the script I used in testing S0ix behaviour. You don't have to use it for anything.
Enabling network connectivity does not affect any ability or inability to run scripts.
It's not using the "Sleep" option in Power options or the Start menu, Power section that affects whether or not your jobs can be run by Task scheduler during S0ix.

You can turn off S0ix's network connectivity whenever you want to.
Enable or disable Modern Standby connectivity in Windows 10 and Windows 11 - ElevenForumTutorials

pacificSurf said:
normal modern standby

I don't know what you mean by normal.

pacificSurf said:
Modern Standby Sleep

S0 Modern standby or S0 Low power idle or S0ix.
It is not a sleep state, it's an idle condition that kicks in as soon as your display goes blank.
I am not being pedantic for the sake of it. S0ix bears no relation to the S3 Sleep that we have know for years.
Your computer does not have a sleep state. The closest it has is S0ix or hibernation.

pacificSurf said:
which uses more power

You might also like to read my post
Power consumption in S0 Modern standby and S3 Sleep - my post #85 - ElevenForum

All the best,
Denis

hdmi · May 17, 2024

pacificSurf said:
So why people disable Modern Standby in the first place,

4 or 5 years ago, if you had just bought a new Windows 10 laptop which supports Modern Standby, then if you never experienced any problems trying to use Modern Standby on it, it was because you were lucky. The situation has gradually been improving, mainly because the manufacturers began to slowly wake up and got it fixed (or almost), sometimes (sometimes often) by selling newer laptop models ("Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Landfill").

Another thing is that, due to the number of Microsoft employees that it still takes to screw in a light bulb in 2024, if you're not using an external display, turning the laptop's built-in screen off triggers Modern Standby. So if, for example, you're trying to let a task run with the screen off to save the battery, then good luck with that. Granted, if the built-in screen is OLED, a screensaver that just makes it show a solid black background can help, as OLED screens barely consume any power as long as all the pixels are black. But then, not everyone uses OLED. The 16 inch 165Hz 3ns WUXGA (1920x1200) 16:10 anti-glare screen of my Asus TUF Gaming F16 (2024) laptop is IPS-level, not OLED.

hdmi · May 17, 2024

Try3 said:
S0 Modern standby or S0 Low power idle or S0ix.

S0ix came to existence many years before Modern Standby did. Modern Standby was introduced by Microsoft with the release of Windows 10. It is a continuation of Connected Standby, and, the latter was introduced with the release of Windows 8. However, S0ix are power states of the SoC (System-on-a-Chip) so then we are talking about those specific hardware components that are inside the SoC.

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Hardware components, or devices that are outside the SoC also have various different power states, the D0 power state being the "fully on" device power state. Within the D0 state, such devices can have various device-specific F states the goal of which is to let a system dynamically manage the power efficiency of each device that is fully on. By contrast, D2 and D3 are (also device-specific) low-power states that can potentially also be defined. But Windows 8 onwards, the D3 state can potentially be subdivided into D3hot and D3cold.

Device Power States - Windows drivers

Device Power States

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Device Low-Power States - Windows drivers

Device Low-Power States

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An important thing to note here is that, to save enough power, devices that are outside the SoC need to be put in a low-power device state before the SoC can enter S0ix.

Prepare hardware for modern standby

On entry to standby, hardware components must be prepared to make the transition to low-power operation.

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pacificSurf · May 17, 2024

Sorry I may just be getting this even more mixed up as I read your other posts. But....

Try3 said:
My script in that post #86 was just an example. It is the script I used in testing S0ix behaviour. You don't have to use it for anything.
Enabling network connectivity does not affect any ability or inability to run scripts.
It's not using the "Sleep" option in Power options or the Start menu, Power section that affects whether or not your jobs can be run by Task scheduler during S0ix.

I don't know what you mean by normal.

By Normal standby mode, I mean Modern Standby. Just S0 Modern Standby.
I thought the point of Network Connectivity in Modern Standby is to run tasks in background, then you could just keep Network Connectivity enabled to run tasks in the background. But I think you were referring to custom tasks. Where as Network connectivity is typically for non custom tasks, like windows updates.

If you ever want to run tasks using Task scheduler then you cannot use those entries labelled as Sleep in your Start menu or in your Power options because doing so inhibits Task scheduler.

So you can not use Task Scheduler when in Modern Standby S0. (Sleep in my start menu triggers Modern Standby S0)

Enabling network connectivity does not affect any ability or inability to run scripts.

So Enabling or disabling Network connectivity does not affect you from running scripts when in Modern Standby S0.
But you still can't use Task Scheduler.

Try3 said:
It is not a sleep state, it's an idle condition that kicks in as soon as your display goes blank.
I am not being pedantic for the sake of it. S0ix bears no relation to the S3 Sleep that we have know for years.
Your computer does not have a sleep state. The closest it has is S0ix or hibernation.

So even though its called "Sleep" in the menu, its not sleep. It's Modern Standby S0 being labeled as Sleep.