Solved 24H2 is awful

RFS · Oct 14, 2024

Fabler2 said:
bought this little Acer for daughter and set it up last week and was surprised that Device en

jimhow4545 said:
When I turn ON the PC and if I don’t see any of these screen than my BitLocker Drive Encryption is OFF?

If you go to settings -> privacy and security. there will be an entry for Device Encryption under the Security tab if your build supports it. My desktops on 24H2 don't have it, but the Laptop I've just clean-installed does. All my PCs are Home edition.

jimhow4545 · Oct 14, 2024

RFS said:
If you go to settings -> privacy and security there will be an entry for Device Encryption if your build supports it. My desktops on 24H2 don't have it, but the Laptop I've just clean-installed does. All my PCs are Home edition.

Wait. BitLocker DRIVE encryption vs DEVICE encryption. I want to make sure my HARD DRIVE encryption is OFF so I can play around with 24H2 and 23H2 (in case 24H2 breaks and return back to 23H2 from image backup)

Bree · Oct 14, 2024

To check device encryption status in an admin command prompt type manage-bde -status
To remove it from a drive (for example the the C: drive) type manage-bde -off C:

jimhow4545 · Oct 14, 2024

Bree said:
To check device encryption status in an admin command prompt type manage-bde -status
To remove it from a drive (for example the the C: drive) type manage-bde -off C:

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That simple enough! Thanks. Control panel can do the same task?

Bree · Oct 14, 2024

jimhow4545 said:
That simple enough! Thanks. Control panel can do the same task?

Yes, but as with everything 'Windows' there are many ways to achieve the same ends. I like the simplicity of using a command prompt

Winuser · Oct 14, 2024

cereberus said:
So I say to the "uninformed many", make an image backup, update, test pc, and revert if you get issues,

Winuser · Oct 14, 2024

Marcus Vinicus said:
Re 'awful' versions of Windows. Is there anyone else who is old enough to remember Window Millenium Edition (aka ME) the last of the DOS versions of Windows. Now that was truly dreadful.

It was mercifully replaced by XP.

For reasons I don't remember, I skipped Windows ME. For me, Windows Vista was awful. I tried it, hated it and switched to Linux. If it wasn't for Windows 7, I'm not sure if I would have come back to Windows.

snerd · Oct 14, 2024

cereberus said:
Do you have a TPM?

Yes.

ian50 · Oct 14, 2024

From PParks 5:43 am:

Edit: oh yeah, it's because I didn't use a Microsoft account.

on clean install of 24H2 encrypting drives without initial specific user input (horror show, that).

Thanks for clearing that up. You've given a good deal of relief.

What a horrid little trap MS set for its' own commercial gain from the "STORE". My instinct has always been to avoid "signing up" to anything if at all possible - that includes an MS account.

XxXxX · Oct 15, 2024

after the actual nightmare of the upgrade itself on two AiO desktop systems 24H2 is now running OK.
the systems have the same minor problems as everyone else, SFC and the 16GB of unclearable files but it did give me the chance of partitioning my wife's system M2 type SSD. 250GB C: Windows and 750GB D: Home which is the first time that i have had an opportunity to do in nearly 2 years.
which should give a little bit more of a safe guard on all personal data.

now i will start on the laptops. best of luck, Steve ..

antspants · Oct 15, 2024

Version 23H2 allowed me to even want to so far do decided to use even look more like been settings
Version 24H2 doesn’t know what I’m talking about

retiredat44 · Oct 15, 2024

i can only think that the latest update caused some BSOD in DCS, because I have not gotten BSOD in ages. I am one of those that find the updates with new stuff worthless rap I don't need. I am pissed. I wish I could offer proof. But seeing to how I never got the BSOD until the latest update, it must be the cause.

Tromso · Oct 15, 2024

The following is what Copilot says about 24H2 and Encryption (I have highlighted some important sections in bold). I just wish I had known about it before performing a clean install of 24H2 (see my previous post).

Windows 11 version 24H2, the upcoming version of the OS, enables Bitlocker device encryption on a wider range of devices. This will happen even on devices running Windows 11 Home. Previously, the OS checked the BIOS settings for the OEM configuration. And in the Home edition, encryption was omitted. Also, the company has removed checks for Modern Standby/HSTI and DMA ports, so encryption is now automatically enabled on more devices during a clean install of Windows 11.

The user may not be aware that Windows has automatically encrypted their hard drives. If you subsequently need to reinstall the operating system, and the BitLocker recovery key is not saved, then all user data will be lost. This would not be that critical if Windows only encrypted the system drive (C:), and not all the drives.

Additionally, BitLocker encryption can have a significant impact on device performance, even when using ultra-fast SSDs such as PCIe Gen4 NVMe. The fact is that during read and write operations, Windows 11 is constantly encrypting and decrypting data. Performance losses can reach 45% in some of the scenarios.

If you are aware of the encryption existence, you can disable it under Settings > Security & Protection > Device Encryption. But if you are not aware, it can become an unexpected disaster. So it is a good idea to learn how to disable the feature.

Here are the steps you need to take in order to prevent Windows 11 from encrypting the drives during its setup.

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When installing Windows 11, wait for the Region selection (OOBE).
On the Region and country screen, press Shift + F10.
A command prompt will open. There, type reg add HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\BitLocker /v PreventDeviceEncryption /d 1 /t REG_DWORD /f, and press Enter.
Now type exit, or simply close the command prompt.
Continue installing Windows 11 as usual. It won't encrypt your drive.

You are done!

pseymour · Oct 15, 2024

antspants said:
Version 23H2 allowed me to even want to so far do decided to use even look more like been settings
Version 24H2 doesn’t know what I’m talking about

Were you having a stroke when you posted this? You good bruh?

antspants · Oct 15, 2024

pseymour said:
Were you having a stroke when you posted this? You good bruh?

I amuse myself no end. I had tears in my eyes laughing as I pressed “Post Reply”

retiredat44 · Oct 15, 2024

my motherboard bios encryption is disabled... and so far no issues, I never use it and never have

abactuon · Oct 15, 2024

I've come across some reports in Internet about potential issues with the WD SN770 and WD SN580 drives. I have one of these myself. So far, I've had good experiences with Windows 24H2 (26100.1882), but I'm not quite sure what the best next step would be. Should I disable updates, or is this something that only occurs in rare cases, like when using RAID?

RJARRRPCGP · Oct 15, 2024

Winuser said:
For me, Windows Vista was awful. I tried it, hated it and switched to Linux. If it wasn't for Windows 7, I'm not sure if I would have come back to Windows.

Vista came with what was an even more broken CBS, IIRC. It was fixed with service packs. Windows Update was also more likely to fail with an error code, randomly, for important updates! Same with 7! :ffs:

Even when it didn't seem as random as with 8x, as I traced the Windows 7 error code 0x80080005 issue to an early-2010s 7 update. With 7 SP1, you have to install one update at a time and reboot many times, just to work around the dreaded 0x80080005 bug. Yep, that means, install each update in chronological order!

RJARRRPCGP · Oct 15, 2024

abactuon said:
I've come across some reports in Internet about potential issues with the WD SN770 and WD SN580 drives. I have one of these myself. So far, I've had good experiences with Windows 24H2 (26100.1882), but I'm not quite sure what the best next step would be. Should I disable updates, or is this something that only occurs in rare cases, like when using RAID?
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Looks like you need to disable HMB for Western Digital SSDs, because of the dreaded "CRITICAL_PROCESS_DIED" BSOD.

RJARRRPCGP · Oct 16, 2024

retiredat44 said:
i can only think that the latest update caused some BSOD in DCS, because I have not gotten BSOD in ages.

Red flag. You have a Raptor Lake in the sig, and you suddenly got a BSOD. It's unfortunately likely that you have rapid-Raptor Lake-degradation syndrome. Lots of 13th-gen and 14th-gen Core i chips are failing. Even more likely with 13900s and 14900s.

Prepare to RMA the CPU with Intel, if that option is available.

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