24H2 Upgrade via Windows Update, major mess now


Every time i get the urge to update to 24H2 i come here and have a read through the problems.
I might leave it 6 months i think.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro
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    PC/Desktop
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    N/A
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600x
    Motherboard
    ASUS Crosshair Viii Hero Wi Fi
    Memory
    32 Gb DDR4 3600MHz GSkill
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    NVidia Geforce 950
    Sound Card
    USB Out NAD M51 DAC with Adams A8 powered speakers
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    Dell 3219Q
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    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    Western Digital Black SSD SN770 1TB
    Samsung EVO SSD 970 1TB
    PSU
    Fractal Design 1000W
    Case
    CoolerMaster ATCS 840
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    Noctua NH-U12S Chromax
    Keyboard
    Razer Huntsman V2
    Mouse
    Razer Viper Ultimate
    Internet Speed
    Starlink 94Mbps down 20Mbps up
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    ESET
Both my computers are now updated to 24H2 26100.2454 using Windows Update.

I use a Microsoft 365 subscription.
I use OneDrive on both computers.
I use BitLocker on both computers.

All has gone smoothly with no problems.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 16 9640
    CPU
    Intel Core Ultra 9 185H
    Memory
    32GB LPDDR5x 7467 MT/s
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 8GB GDDR6
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16.3 inch 4K+ OLED Infinity Edge Touch
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    1 Terabyte M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
    Cooling
    Vapor Chamber Cooling
    Mouse
    None
    Internet Speed
    960 Mbps Netgear Mesh + 2 Satellites
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge (Chromium) + Bing
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Security (Defender)
    Other Info
    Microsoft 365 subscription
    Microsoft OneDrive 1TB Cloud
    Microsoft Visual Studio
    Microsoft Visual Studio Code
    Microsoft PowerToys
    Macrium Reflect X subscription
    Dell Support Assist
    Dell Command | Update
    1Password Password Manager
    Amazon Kindle for PC
    Interactive Brokers Trader Workstation
    Lightroom/Photoshop subscription
    BitLocker
    CoPilot
Both my computers are now updated to 24H2 26100.2454 using Windows Update.

I use a Microsoft 365 subscription.
I use OneDrive on both computers.
I use BitLocker on both computers.

All has gone smoothly with no problems.
I have a question. Don't you basically use microsoft office and a stock trading app? Is that the only programs you use on your machine? No disrespect intended I am just curious.

I have a lot of programs and dabble in virtual machines, games etc so it's not surprising you don't have any issues imho.

That said, I have not been offered it through windows update yet, so when I do get it I will have to see if I have any issues.

I know at my work here we blocked it as it was causing significant problems with certain applications after we did some testing. As well as some bugs that have been quite frustrating. Mainly in the UI
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5700 X3D
    Motherboard
    MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS
    Memory
    64 GB DDR4 3600mhz Gskill Ripjaws V
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 4070 Super , 12GB VRAM Asus EVO Overclock
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gigabyte M27Q (rev. 2.0) 2560 x 1440 @ 170hz HDR
    Hard Drives
    2TB Samsung nvme ssd
    2TB XPG nvme ssd
    PSU
    CORSAIR RMx SHIFT Series™ RM750x 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
    Case
    CORSAIR 3500X ARGB Mid-Tower ATX PC Case – Black
    Cooling
    ID-COOLING FROSTFLOW X 240 CPU Water Cooler
    Internet Speed
    900mbps DOWN, 100mbps UP
  • Operating System
    Chrome OS
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Chromebook
    CPU
    Intel Pentium Quad Core
    Memory
    4GB LPDDR4
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14 Inch HD SVA anti glare micro edge display
    Hard Drives
    64 GB emmc
I have a question. Don't you basically use microsoft office and a stock trading app? Is that the only programs you use on your machine? No disrespect intended I am just curious.
Yes, Microsoft Office and Interactive Brokers Trader Workstation are used every day. I actively use OneDrive every day. I use Microsoft OneNote every day. Like most forum members, I use a broad suite of Windows utilities. I'm an active amateur photographer and have an Adobe Photography subscription. I work a good bit with Lightroom and Photoshop. I worked a few decades ago as a corporate Microsoft Windows software engineer and I still dabble a bit with Visual Studio, C#, and C++. I make a Macrium Reflect X image of System One every evening. I do use a VM for testing. I'm a very active computer user. I'm not a gamer and don't play any games.
I have a lot of programs and dabble in virtual machines, games etc so it's not surprising you don't have many issues imho.
I like to think that I don't have many issues because I don't feel a need to hack the OS.
That said, I have not been offered it through windows update yet, so when I do get it I will have to see if I have any issues.

I know at my work here we blocked it as it was causing significant problems with certain applications after we did some testing. As well as some bugs that have been quite frustrating. Mainly in the UI
I've worked from my own home for several decades, so I don't have any corporate support requirements. I report only to my wife! :-)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 16 9640
    CPU
    Intel Core Ultra 9 185H
    Memory
    32GB LPDDR5x 7467 MT/s
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 8GB GDDR6
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16.3 inch 4K+ OLED Infinity Edge Touch
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    1 Terabyte M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
    Cooling
    Vapor Chamber Cooling
    Mouse
    None
    Internet Speed
    960 Mbps Netgear Mesh + 2 Satellites
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge (Chromium) + Bing
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Security (Defender)
    Other Info
    Microsoft 365 subscription
    Microsoft OneDrive 1TB Cloud
    Microsoft Visual Studio
    Microsoft Visual Studio Code
    Microsoft PowerToys
    Macrium Reflect X subscription
    Dell Support Assist
    Dell Command | Update
    1Password Password Manager
    Amazon Kindle for PC
    Interactive Brokers Trader Workstation
    Lightroom/Photoshop subscription
    BitLocker
    CoPilot
Like most forum members, I use a broad suite of Windows utilities..........
.....I worked a few decades ago as a corporate Microsoft Windows software engineer
Thats awesome :)

I like to think that I don't have many issues because I don't feel a need to hack the OS.
I don't really modify my OS either. I do change a lot of settings from the default, do some simple reg key changes and things like that, but I don't remove or modify windows core files or add third party programs to replace the start menu or things like that. I have some minor issues every now and then (usually a programs fault and not a windows one), but it is never as drastic as some other people report on here. I never had a windows update fail on my personal machine except that one time I posted here. Luckily repair install fixed it. However, work environments and other people's machines I have experienced it of course.

It does make me wonder. I think a lot of the time it comes down to badly written drivers and software, and things like that. I frankly am amazed how well windows works at all considering the amount of configurations there are. Having said that, I think microsoft definitely can improve their handling of certain things. There are a lot of aspects of windows that should be better explained or have more options.

I do run into people having problems with windows a lot, but that's my job. 🤷‍♂️
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5700 X3D
    Motherboard
    MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS
    Memory
    64 GB DDR4 3600mhz Gskill Ripjaws V
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 4070 Super , 12GB VRAM Asus EVO Overclock
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gigabyte M27Q (rev. 2.0) 2560 x 1440 @ 170hz HDR
    Hard Drives
    2TB Samsung nvme ssd
    2TB XPG nvme ssd
    PSU
    CORSAIR RMx SHIFT Series™ RM750x 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
    Case
    CORSAIR 3500X ARGB Mid-Tower ATX PC Case – Black
    Cooling
    ID-COOLING FROSTFLOW X 240 CPU Water Cooler
    Internet Speed
    900mbps DOWN, 100mbps UP
  • Operating System
    Chrome OS
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Chromebook
    CPU
    Intel Pentium Quad Core
    Memory
    4GB LPDDR4
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14 Inch HD SVA anti glare micro edge display
    Hard Drives
    64 GB emmc
It does make me wonder. I think a lot of the time it comes down to badly written drivers and software, and things like that. I frankly am amazed how well windows works at all considering the amount of configurations there are. Having said that, I think microsoft definitely can improve their handling of certain things. There are a lot of aspects of windows that should be better explained or have more options.

@andrew129260 I agree with these comments 100%. It is mind boggling to me to open up Sysinternals System Monitor and observe how much is going on inside Windows every fraction of a second, even when it is supposedly at 'idle'. Amazing that Windows works at all.

Re your comments how MS have handled the introduction of 24H2 I feel strongly they should be making it much clearer to users that 24H2 is a major update to the OS. They are significant changes at the heart of the OS including real changes to driver frameworks and models. Not surprising there are some having driver issues.

I have had no issues re upgrading to and using 24H2 on two computers. My desktop PC gets used all day every day and gets a bit of hammering at times. When I upgraded my new Asus Vivobook to 24H2 two days ago I had already decided I wasn't going to wait for Windows Updates to do it for me as I wanted more control over the process. I used the Windows 11 Installation Assistant to update from 23H2 to 26100.1742.

I do think it is critical for ALL users of Windows 11 to have a full system image backup of their computers. I have three such backups of my computers updated weekly on multiple external drives.

One tip for anyone planning to update to 24H2 (not using Windows Update) is disconnect all external devices (except mice and keyboards) from the computer before starting.
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.3025
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 13900K
    Motherboard
    Asus ProArt Z790 Creator WiFi - Bios 2703
    Memory
    Corsair Dominator Platinum 64gb 5600MT/s DDR5 Dual Channel
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire NITRO+ AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX Vapor-X 24GB
    Sound Card
    External DAC - Headphone Amplifier: Cambridge Audio DACMagic200M
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Panasonic MX950 Mini LED 55" TV 120hz
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160 120hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 2TB (OS)
    Samsung 980 Pro 1TB (Files)
    Lexar NZ790 4TB
    LaCie d2 Professional 6TB external - USB 3.1
    Seagate One Touch 18TB external HD - USB 3.0
    PSU
    Corsair RM1200x Shift
    Case
    Corsair RGB Smart Case 5000x (white)
    Cooling
    Corsair iCue H150i Elite Capellix XT
    Keyboard
    Logitech K860
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Ergo Trackball
    Internet Speed
    Fibre 900/500 Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total Security
    Other Info
    AMD Radeon Software & Drivers 24.12.1
    AOMEI Backupper Pro
    Dashlane password manager
    Logitech Brio 4K Webcam
    Orico 10-port powered USB 3.0 hub
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2894
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Vivobook X1605VA
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i9-13900H
    Motherboard
    Asus X1605VA bios 309
    Memory
    32GB DDR4-3200 Dual channel
    Graphics card(s)
    *Intel Iris Xᵉ Graphics G7 (96EU) 32.0.101.6078
    Sound Card
    Realtek | Intel SST Bluetooth & USB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16.0-inch, WUXGA 16:10 aspect ratio, IPS-level Panel
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200 60hz
    Hard Drives
    512GB M.2 NVMe™ PCIe® 3.0 SSD
    Other Info
    720p Webcam
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I do run into people having problems with windows a lot, but that's my job. 🤷‍♂️
I end up doing a good bit of support for family and friends. I fully appreciate what you do.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 16 9640
    CPU
    Intel Core Ultra 9 185H
    Memory
    32GB LPDDR5x 7467 MT/s
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 8GB GDDR6
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16.3 inch 4K+ OLED Infinity Edge Touch
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    1 Terabyte M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
    Cooling
    Vapor Chamber Cooling
    Mouse
    None
    Internet Speed
    960 Mbps Netgear Mesh + 2 Satellites
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge (Chromium) + Bing
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Security (Defender)
    Other Info
    Microsoft 365 subscription
    Microsoft OneDrive 1TB Cloud
    Microsoft Visual Studio
    Microsoft Visual Studio Code
    Microsoft PowerToys
    Macrium Reflect X subscription
    Dell Support Assist
    Dell Command | Update
    1Password Password Manager
    Amazon Kindle for PC
    Interactive Brokers Trader Workstation
    Lightroom/Photoshop subscription
    BitLocker
    CoPilot

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5700 X3D
    Motherboard
    MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS
    Memory
    64 GB DDR4 3600mhz Gskill Ripjaws V
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 4070 Super , 12GB VRAM Asus EVO Overclock
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gigabyte M27Q (rev. 2.0) 2560 x 1440 @ 170hz HDR
    Hard Drives
    2TB Samsung nvme ssd
    2TB XPG nvme ssd
    PSU
    CORSAIR RMx SHIFT Series™ RM750x 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
    Case
    CORSAIR 3500X ARGB Mid-Tower ATX PC Case – Black
    Cooling
    ID-COOLING FROSTFLOW X 240 CPU Water Cooler
    Internet Speed
    900mbps DOWN, 100mbps UP
  • Operating System
    Chrome OS
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Chromebook
    CPU
    Intel Pentium Quad Core
    Memory
    4GB LPDDR4
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14 Inch HD SVA anti glare micro edge display
    Hard Drives
    64 GB emmc
Re your comments how MS have handled the introduction of 24H2 I feel strongly they should be making it much clearer to users that 24H2 is a major update to the OS. They are significant changes at the heart of the OS including real changes to driver frameworks and models. Not surprising there are some having driver issues.
Even if you tell them the average user would not understand it or get it. Most of them don't know how to adjust their computer settings at all.

This is a hot take, but in my personal opinion, the average user should not be using windows at all unless they need a specific windows only program for some reason. (Or a gamer)

In my personal opinion, (don't shoot me!) I really think most people should have chromebooks, or some other stripped down OS. Macs are fine as well but they are insanely pricey. (That new m4 mac mini is nice though - for apple anyway, good price on that)

The average person I see everyday uses their computer as just a bigger web browser, and you just don't need a big OS like windows or mac OS for that. The security concerns and everything can be avoided by just not using them. Malware, botnets, and threats alone would be reduced a ton if people were not using these beefy operating systems just so they can use chrome to browse the web. It's ridiculous frankly. The amount of wasted bandwidth on windows updates to update and patch flaws are a ton for something that just isn't needed by the average user.

That is why I give people chromebooks. I give them it, they are good for 5+ years, and I never have to troubleshoot anything ever again. Nothing breaks, they don't get failed updates, or problems with software etc. It just works, and it's dang cheap. It does exactly what most people need a computer for. It handles everyday tasks and you can do a decent amount of things on them. And they don't get malware or anything else scary. The only thing they can get tricked by is the bad ads or scams.

I have a Chromebook and love that thing.
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5700 X3D
    Motherboard
    MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS
    Memory
    64 GB DDR4 3600mhz Gskill Ripjaws V
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 4070 Super , 12GB VRAM Asus EVO Overclock
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gigabyte M27Q (rev. 2.0) 2560 x 1440 @ 170hz HDR
    Hard Drives
    2TB Samsung nvme ssd
    2TB XPG nvme ssd
    PSU
    CORSAIR RMx SHIFT Series™ RM750x 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
    Case
    CORSAIR 3500X ARGB Mid-Tower ATX PC Case – Black
    Cooling
    ID-COOLING FROSTFLOW X 240 CPU Water Cooler
    Internet Speed
    900mbps DOWN, 100mbps UP
  • Operating System
    Chrome OS
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Chromebook
    CPU
    Intel Pentium Quad Core
    Memory
    4GB LPDDR4
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14 Inch HD SVA anti glare micro edge display
    Hard Drives
    64 GB emmc
@andrew129260

One of my brothers who isn't a techie/geekie sort of guy upon my recommendation bought a Samsung Android Tablet. Does what he wants and isn't as complex as Windows.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.3025
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 13900K
    Motherboard
    Asus ProArt Z790 Creator WiFi - Bios 2703
    Memory
    Corsair Dominator Platinum 64gb 5600MT/s DDR5 Dual Channel
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire NITRO+ AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX Vapor-X 24GB
    Sound Card
    External DAC - Headphone Amplifier: Cambridge Audio DACMagic200M
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Panasonic MX950 Mini LED 55" TV 120hz
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160 120hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 2TB (OS)
    Samsung 980 Pro 1TB (Files)
    Lexar NZ790 4TB
    LaCie d2 Professional 6TB external - USB 3.1
    Seagate One Touch 18TB external HD - USB 3.0
    PSU
    Corsair RM1200x Shift
    Case
    Corsair RGB Smart Case 5000x (white)
    Cooling
    Corsair iCue H150i Elite Capellix XT
    Keyboard
    Logitech K860
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Ergo Trackball
    Internet Speed
    Fibre 900/500 Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total Security
    Other Info
    AMD Radeon Software & Drivers 24.12.1
    AOMEI Backupper Pro
    Dashlane password manager
    Logitech Brio 4K Webcam
    Orico 10-port powered USB 3.0 hub
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2894
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Vivobook X1605VA
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i9-13900H
    Motherboard
    Asus X1605VA bios 309
    Memory
    32GB DDR4-3200 Dual channel
    Graphics card(s)
    *Intel Iris Xᵉ Graphics G7 (96EU) 32.0.101.6078
    Sound Card
    Realtek | Intel SST Bluetooth & USB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16.0-inch, WUXGA 16:10 aspect ratio, IPS-level Panel
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200 60hz
    Hard Drives
    512GB M.2 NVMe™ PCIe® 3.0 SSD
    Other Info
    720p Webcam
@andrew129260

One of my brothers who isn't a techie/geekie sort of guy upon my recommendation bought a Samsung Android Tablet. Does what he wants and isn't as complex as Windows.
yup even that or an ipad is better. Chromebooks are even more secure than them though but still thats a huge improvement imho compared to windows for the average joe.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5700 X3D
    Motherboard
    MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS
    Memory
    64 GB DDR4 3600mhz Gskill Ripjaws V
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 4070 Super , 12GB VRAM Asus EVO Overclock
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gigabyte M27Q (rev. 2.0) 2560 x 1440 @ 170hz HDR
    Hard Drives
    2TB Samsung nvme ssd
    2TB XPG nvme ssd
    PSU
    CORSAIR RMx SHIFT Series™ RM750x 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
    Case
    CORSAIR 3500X ARGB Mid-Tower ATX PC Case – Black
    Cooling
    ID-COOLING FROSTFLOW X 240 CPU Water Cooler
    Internet Speed
    900mbps DOWN, 100mbps UP
  • Operating System
    Chrome OS
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Chromebook
    CPU
    Intel Pentium Quad Core
    Memory
    4GB LPDDR4
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14 Inch HD SVA anti glare micro edge display
    Hard Drives
    64 GB emmc
Both my computers are now updated to 24H2 26100.2454 using Windows Update.

I use a Microsoft 365 subscription.
I use OneDrive on both computers.
I use BitLocker on both computers.

All has gone smoothly with no problems.

Are you using your Microsoft Account to login to Windows 11? Just curious.

Lately I have been seeing many Windows users getting their Microsoft Accounts locked out or disabled and this leaves them unable to log in to Windows. This is why I am against using a Microsoft Account to log in to Windows.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 7600X3D Raphael AM5 4.1GHz 6C/12T
    Motherboard
    ASUS B650-PLUS TUF GAMING WIFI ATX AM5
    Memory
    G.Skill Flare X5 Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5-6000 PC5-48000 CL32
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon Graphics (need to upgrade)
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer Nitro XV272U V3bmiiprx 27" 2K WQHD (2560 x 1440) 180Hz Gaming Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P3 Plus 500GB 3D NAND Flash PCIe Gen 4 x4 NVMe M.2
    PSU
    PowerSpec 750 Watt 80 Plus Gold ATX Fully Modular Power Supply
    Case
    Inland X1 Tempered Glass ATX Mid-Tower Computer Case
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper 212 CPU Air Cooler
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK270 Wireless Keyboard and Mouse
    Mouse
    Several
    Internet Speed
    800/600 Fiber
    Browser
    Any popular browser
    Antivirus
    None
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Powerspec B734
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G (3.8GHz)
    Motherboard
    ASRock A520M-HDV
    Memory
    16GB DDR4-2666 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sceptre Curved 24-inch Gaming Monitor 1080p R1500 98% sRGB HDMI x2 VGA Build-in Speakers, VESA Wall Mount Machine Black (C248W-1920RN Series)
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SN570 1TB NVME Gen3
    PSU
    400W PSU
    Case
    Mid-tower case
    Cooling
    CPU fan cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech MK270
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK270
    Internet Speed
    800/600
    Browser
    Any popular browser
    Antivirus
    None
Are you using your Microsoft Account to login to Windows 11? Just curious.

Lately I have been seeing many Windows users getting their Microsoft Accounts locked out or disabled and this leaves them unable to log in to Windows. This is why I am against using a Microsoft Account to log in to Windows.
Not them, but I am using a microsoft account to log into windows. I have 2fa enabled with a hardware security key.

I never had any issues with my microsoft account. I used to use a local account for a long time, but a microsoft account is better for security. Since I have a laptop and take it a ton of places, I want to have the best prevention of the password being reset or bypassed. Microsoft accounts prevent this. A local account can have it's password reset at boot fairly easily making bitlocker pointless.

Having said that, I don't use onedrive or office 365. I have onedrive removed from my windows image.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5700 X3D
    Motherboard
    MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS
    Memory
    64 GB DDR4 3600mhz Gskill Ripjaws V
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 4070 Super , 12GB VRAM Asus EVO Overclock
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gigabyte M27Q (rev. 2.0) 2560 x 1440 @ 170hz HDR
    Hard Drives
    2TB Samsung nvme ssd
    2TB XPG nvme ssd
    PSU
    CORSAIR RMx SHIFT Series™ RM750x 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
    Case
    CORSAIR 3500X ARGB Mid-Tower ATX PC Case – Black
    Cooling
    ID-COOLING FROSTFLOW X 240 CPU Water Cooler
    Internet Speed
    900mbps DOWN, 100mbps UP
  • Operating System
    Chrome OS
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Chromebook
    CPU
    Intel Pentium Quad Core
    Memory
    4GB LPDDR4
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14 Inch HD SVA anti glare micro edge display
    Hard Drives
    64 GB emmc
Not them, but I am using a microsoft account to log into windows. I have 2fa enabled with a hardware security key.

Good security setup.

[...] Since I have a laptop and take it a ton of places, I want to have the best prevention of the password being reset or bypassed. Microsoft accounts prevent this. A local account can have it's password reset at boot fairly easily making bitlocker pointless.
Mostly true. In certain conditions with a Windows setup, you can still access the account data. Remember, the Administrator account still exists in Windows 11 and by default the account is disabled. I have access end users data, when requested, even if they had a Microsoft Account used for Windows logins.

Having said that, I don't use onedrive or office 365. I have it set to sign into apps separately and not just set to auto sign into everything.
I don't like it when a Microsoft Account signs in to everything, as it usually does it automatically then. Controlling logins is good.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 7600X3D Raphael AM5 4.1GHz 6C/12T
    Motherboard
    ASUS B650-PLUS TUF GAMING WIFI ATX AM5
    Memory
    G.Skill Flare X5 Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5-6000 PC5-48000 CL32
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon Graphics (need to upgrade)
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer Nitro XV272U V3bmiiprx 27" 2K WQHD (2560 x 1440) 180Hz Gaming Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P3 Plus 500GB 3D NAND Flash PCIe Gen 4 x4 NVMe M.2
    PSU
    PowerSpec 750 Watt 80 Plus Gold ATX Fully Modular Power Supply
    Case
    Inland X1 Tempered Glass ATX Mid-Tower Computer Case
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper 212 CPU Air Cooler
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK270 Wireless Keyboard and Mouse
    Mouse
    Several
    Internet Speed
    800/600 Fiber
    Browser
    Any popular browser
    Antivirus
    None
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Powerspec B734
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G (3.8GHz)
    Motherboard
    ASRock A520M-HDV
    Memory
    16GB DDR4-2666 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sceptre Curved 24-inch Gaming Monitor 1080p R1500 98% sRGB HDMI x2 VGA Build-in Speakers, VESA Wall Mount Machine Black (C248W-1920RN Series)
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SN570 1TB NVME Gen3
    PSU
    400W PSU
    Case
    Mid-tower case
    Cooling
    CPU fan cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech MK270
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK270
    Internet Speed
    800/600
    Browser
    Any popular browser
    Antivirus
    None
Are you using your Microsoft Account to login to Windows 11? Just curious.
Yes.
Lately I have been seeing many Windows users getting their Microsoft Accounts locked out or disabled and this leaves them unable to log in to Windows. This is why I am against using a Microsoft Account to log in to Windows.
My Microsoft Account uses Windows Hello. I'm not going to get locked out because I have my face and fingers with me at all times! :wink:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 16 9640
    CPU
    Intel Core Ultra 9 185H
    Memory
    32GB LPDDR5x 7467 MT/s
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 8GB GDDR6
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16.3 inch 4K+ OLED Infinity Edge Touch
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    1 Terabyte M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
    Cooling
    Vapor Chamber Cooling
    Mouse
    None
    Internet Speed
    960 Mbps Netgear Mesh + 2 Satellites
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge (Chromium) + Bing
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Security (Defender)
    Other Info
    Microsoft 365 subscription
    Microsoft OneDrive 1TB Cloud
    Microsoft Visual Studio
    Microsoft Visual Studio Code
    Microsoft PowerToys
    Macrium Reflect X subscription
    Dell Support Assist
    Dell Command | Update
    1Password Password Manager
    Amazon Kindle for PC
    Interactive Brokers Trader Workstation
    Lightroom/Photoshop subscription
    BitLocker
    CoPilot
My Microsoft Account uses Windows Hello. I'm not going to get locked out because I have my face and fingers with me at all times! :wink:

Your identifiers will be accessible, however, if the Microsoft Account cannot authenticate, you cannot login. Just letting know you this because I hate seeing users getting locked out with no recovery.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 7600X3D Raphael AM5 4.1GHz 6C/12T
    Motherboard
    ASUS B650-PLUS TUF GAMING WIFI ATX AM5
    Memory
    G.Skill Flare X5 Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5-6000 PC5-48000 CL32
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon Graphics (need to upgrade)
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer Nitro XV272U V3bmiiprx 27" 2K WQHD (2560 x 1440) 180Hz Gaming Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P3 Plus 500GB 3D NAND Flash PCIe Gen 4 x4 NVMe M.2
    PSU
    PowerSpec 750 Watt 80 Plus Gold ATX Fully Modular Power Supply
    Case
    Inland X1 Tempered Glass ATX Mid-Tower Computer Case
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper 212 CPU Air Cooler
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK270 Wireless Keyboard and Mouse
    Mouse
    Several
    Internet Speed
    800/600 Fiber
    Browser
    Any popular browser
    Antivirus
    None
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Powerspec B734
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G (3.8GHz)
    Motherboard
    ASRock A520M-HDV
    Memory
    16GB DDR4-2666 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sceptre Curved 24-inch Gaming Monitor 1080p R1500 98% sRGB HDMI x2 VGA Build-in Speakers, VESA Wall Mount Machine Black (C248W-1920RN Series)
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SN570 1TB NVME Gen3
    PSU
    400W PSU
    Case
    Mid-tower case
    Cooling
    CPU fan cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech MK270
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK270
    Internet Speed
    800/600
    Browser
    Any popular browser
    Antivirus
    None
Mostly true. In certain conditions with a Windows setup, you can still access the account data. Remember, the Administrator account still exists in Windows 11 and by default the account is disabled. I have access end users data, when requested, even if they had a Microsoft Account used for Windows logins.
Depends if bitlocker is enabled, afaik through the research I have done. I have bitlocker enabled though, and the built in admin account name is changed, and disabled.

Your identifiers will be accessible, however, if the Microsoft Account cannot authenticate, you cannot login. Just letting know you this because I hate seeing users getting locked out with no recovery.

If they get locked out and have no recovery methods added to their account, that's on them.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5700 X3D
    Motherboard
    MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS
    Memory
    64 GB DDR4 3600mhz Gskill Ripjaws V
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 4070 Super , 12GB VRAM Asus EVO Overclock
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gigabyte M27Q (rev. 2.0) 2560 x 1440 @ 170hz HDR
    Hard Drives
    2TB Samsung nvme ssd
    2TB XPG nvme ssd
    PSU
    CORSAIR RMx SHIFT Series™ RM750x 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
    Case
    CORSAIR 3500X ARGB Mid-Tower ATX PC Case – Black
    Cooling
    ID-COOLING FROSTFLOW X 240 CPU Water Cooler
    Internet Speed
    900mbps DOWN, 100mbps UP
  • Operating System
    Chrome OS
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Chromebook
    CPU
    Intel Pentium Quad Core
    Memory
    4GB LPDDR4
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14 Inch HD SVA anti glare micro edge display
    Hard Drives
    64 GB emmc
Depends if bitlocker is enabled, afaik through the research I have done. I have bitlocker enabled though, and the built in admin account name is changed, and disabled.
True. Bitlocker is the stopper in accessing data externally. However, if the recovery keys are accessible, then the data is accessible (different scenario).
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 7600X3D Raphael AM5 4.1GHz 6C/12T
    Motherboard
    ASUS B650-PLUS TUF GAMING WIFI ATX AM5
    Memory
    G.Skill Flare X5 Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5-6000 PC5-48000 CL32
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon Graphics (need to upgrade)
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer Nitro XV272U V3bmiiprx 27" 2K WQHD (2560 x 1440) 180Hz Gaming Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P3 Plus 500GB 3D NAND Flash PCIe Gen 4 x4 NVMe M.2
    PSU
    PowerSpec 750 Watt 80 Plus Gold ATX Fully Modular Power Supply
    Case
    Inland X1 Tempered Glass ATX Mid-Tower Computer Case
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper 212 CPU Air Cooler
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK270 Wireless Keyboard and Mouse
    Mouse
    Several
    Internet Speed
    800/600 Fiber
    Browser
    Any popular browser
    Antivirus
    None
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Powerspec B734
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G (3.8GHz)
    Motherboard
    ASRock A520M-HDV
    Memory
    16GB DDR4-2666 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sceptre Curved 24-inch Gaming Monitor 1080p R1500 98% sRGB HDMI x2 VGA Build-in Speakers, VESA Wall Mount Machine Black (C248W-1920RN Series)
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SN570 1TB NVME Gen3
    PSU
    400W PSU
    Case
    Mid-tower case
    Cooling
    CPU fan cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech MK270
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK270
    Internet Speed
    800/600
    Browser
    Any popular browser
    Antivirus
    None
Your identifiers will be accessible, however, if the Microsoft Account cannot authenticate, you cannot login. Just letting know you this because I hate seeing users getting locked out with no recovery.
My recovery is BOTH my password and my biometrics. I will NOT be locked out.

BTW I turned OFF my external password. For someone to get into my account externally, that someone has to be me.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 16 9640
    CPU
    Intel Core Ultra 9 185H
    Memory
    32GB LPDDR5x 7467 MT/s
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 8GB GDDR6
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16.3 inch 4K+ OLED Infinity Edge Touch
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    1 Terabyte M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
    Cooling
    Vapor Chamber Cooling
    Mouse
    None
    Internet Speed
    960 Mbps Netgear Mesh + 2 Satellites
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge (Chromium) + Bing
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Security (Defender)
    Other Info
    Microsoft 365 subscription
    Microsoft OneDrive 1TB Cloud
    Microsoft Visual Studio
    Microsoft Visual Studio Code
    Microsoft PowerToys
    Macrium Reflect X subscription
    Dell Support Assist
    Dell Command | Update
    1Password Password Manager
    Amazon Kindle for PC
    Interactive Brokers Trader Workstation
    Lightroom/Photoshop subscription
    BitLocker
    CoPilot
My recovery is BOTH my password and my biometrics. I will NOT be locked out.

BTW I turned OFF my external password. For someone to get into my account externally, that someone has to be me.
Same here !!!
In any case I tend to use an Internet proxy / gateway from a Linux NAS so double line of defence too. Disk encryption is a pain if you ever need to recover data from a broken disk.

I can't be bothered with bitlocker, disk encryption etc etc -- if I have HDD / SSD / NVME failure - just replace it and restore data from offline backup. Incidentally HDD /SDD /NVME failures (certainly total failures) are fortunately very rare these days -- also I don't use a laptop now so "theft / loss" of laptop doesn't bother me either. I use several MiniPC's now --I have 1 dedicated to trading so that stuff is all taken care of.

cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
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